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Malvaro 06-18-2007 09:38 PM

I rebuke the "computer" demons in Jesus name!
 
Folks, my XP Home desktop computer is stuck at the startup screen. I don't do hardware so I dont know if my system operating system is corrupted, my processer board or hard-drive failed, etc.

I cannot lose the contents of this hard-drive. I have all my Sunday morning series, Bible study notes and worksheets, sermons and extended studies (both personal and other resources), over 100+ sermon mp3's (old and new alike).

I have backed up many of my personal files onto CD previously but it would still result in years worth of resources lost....

I've never prayed over a computer before, but I need God to grant one of three people the knowledge of how to fix this computer: my BIL, my uncle, or a good friend from WI (all of which are computer techs).

I dont care about the remaining hardware, as long as the harddrive can be salvaged. I am willing to turn around and buy a new computer tomorrow, if need be.

I rebuke the "computer" demons in Jesus name!!!!

webe123 06-19-2007 12:36 AM

That's it! You tell em Brother! I know how you feel, I reformat my computer every once in awhile, but I have everything backed up to CD, DVD or an 80 gig USB external hard drive I got at Wal Mart for 90 bucks.

Can you take it to a computer place that fixes computers? They can usually salvage what is on your hard drive...though sometimes things are lost!

I always stress to people HOW IMPORTANT backing up really is! This is exactly why! If you can, get you a usb external hard drive later on so that if something like this happens again, you will be ready.And then back up your important info every day! It will save you a lot of headaches in the future, trust me.

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-19-2007 12:42 AM

What's a backup?

revrandy 06-19-2007 01:16 AM

Hold the start button (where you turn the computer on) down until it shuts off...

then wait a couple of seconds and turn back on..

webe123 06-19-2007 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 160709)
Hold the start button (where you turn the computer on) down until it shuts off...

then wait a couple of seconds and turn back on..


ummmm.....NO...that is called a REBOOT!

A backup.... is where you put all of your files like pictures, music and other important documents onto a CD,DVD or an external usb hard drive....so that the information you need is "saved"if your main hard drive quits on you like in this case.

There are also programs you can get that will make a backup of your info with just a click of the mouse and then you can burn it to a CD or DVD or put it on an external hard drive you have.

For the original poster....you can use one of these FREE utilities to see if you can recover the stuff from your hard drive
http://www.sofotex.com/download/PC_U...Data_Recovery/

They also have a section of free backup software to backup your stuff.
http://www.sofotex.com/download/PC_Utilities/Back_Up/

COOPER 06-19-2007 06:45 AM

I recently had pop ups and went to micro-soft updates and downloaded security updates for spy and adware.

Malvaro 06-19-2007 07:18 AM

its just stuck at the black startup screen, and in safe mode or normal mode.... loads up to XP welcome screen with blue loading bar... beeps then goes back to the black startup screen.... loading in safe mode shows a screen full of files from the Windows/win32/driver directory.... dont know what that means, but.... its still broken....

revrandy 06-19-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 160758)
its just stuck at the black startup screen, and in safe mode or normal mode.... loads up to XP welcome screen with blue loading bar... beeps then goes back to the black startup screen.... loading in safe mode shows a screen full of files from the Windows/win32/driver directory.... dont know what that means, but.... its still broken....

Call the Dr...

You may want to take it somewhere and see if you can get your files extracted...

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-19-2007 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webe123 (Post 160713)
ummmm.....NO...that is called a REBOOT!

A backup.... is where you put all of your files like pictures, music and other important documents onto a CD,DVD or an external usb hard drive....so that the information you need is "saved"if your main hard drive quits on you like in this case.

There are also programs you can get that will make a backup of your info with just a click of the mouse and then you can burn it to a CD or DVD or put it on an external hard drive you have.

For the original poster....you can use one of these FREE utilities to see if you can recover the stuff from your hard drive
http://www.sofotex.com/download/PC_U...Data_Recovery/

They also have a section of free backup software to backup your stuff.
http://www.sofotex.com/download/PC_Utilities/Back_Up/

He cannot get to the BIOS check screens.

Maybe he has a new paperweight....:sad

Malvaro 06-19-2007 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 160889)
He cannot get to the BIOS check screens.

Maybe he has a new paperweight....:sad

I can get to the BIOS screen by pressing F8 while blue bar is loading; I just chose not to fool around with things I don't know alot about.

Sheltiedad 06-19-2007 09:39 AM

Before you spend too much money, unhook any extra peripherials (printers, scanners, mice, joysticks)... I have seen the same problem when someone gets a new wireless mouse or keyboard and it works fine until they reboot... unplug everything but your keyboard (and go back to your old keyboard if you recently got a new one)... just to see if it will boot. At this point it can't really hurt anything and it wouldn't hurt to rule those things out.

Malvaro 06-19-2007 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 160953)
Before you spend too much money, unhook any extra peripherials (printers, scanners, mice, joysticks)... I have seen the same problem when someone gets a new wireless mouse or keyboard and it works fine until they reboot... unplug everything but your keyboard (and go back to your old keyboard if you recently got a new one)... just to see if it will boot. At this point it can't really hurt anything and it wouldn't hurt to rule those things out.

I only have a laser printer, and wireless keyboard and mouse.... all of which have been used without problems for over 6+ months.... regardless, I will try it....

From Yahoo Answers:

Quote:

It's just a Windows Stop Error message that is making your computer to reboot again n again and preventing you from logging into Windows. In most cases you will have to reinstall the operating system.

Yes your hard disk is 100% salvageable and,
No in most cases there is no problem with the processor or hardware.
Just reinstall the operating system. But make sure you back up your files before reinstalling the system, which in effect means formatting your hard disk. If you don't know how to back up your hard disk by attaching it to another computer that is in working condition and saving your data on that computer .....then you must seek the help of a Computer Technician ...or you risk losing your data.
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Everything is salvagable. Just take your hard drive to another PC and backup your important files. Then format it and reinstall XP clean (don't try to recover as the problem will re-appear in the future).
Worst scenario there may be a device causing the problem, if so the system will detect it durint the clean install and disable it. In such case only that device would not be salvagable. But it is not the hard drive or the memory. MOst likely may be a device attached to your pc or an internal device in the motherboard.
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do a repair with windows xp disk. This will delete all system files and replace them and your pc will boot and everything will be as it was nothing will be lost
Wouldn't a re-install of the operating system wipe my harddrive???

Several other articles that may, or may not, apply:

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...1-6031733.html
http://kadaitcha.cx/cannot_start_xp.html
http://www.5starsupport.com/info/xpinfo.htm

Sheltiedad 06-19-2007 10:26 AM

When you reinstall, you can do a repair (I don't like but it works in a pinch), a dual install (install Windows into a separate directory so that you can repair the original install) or a complete install which would go all the way back to deleting the existing partitions, creating a new partition and formatting it.

Also, some manufacturers have "Restore" CD's... the restore CD WILL wipe out everything on your hard drive so be careful with that.

I doubt that your data is lost given the symptoms although I could not guarantee this. You could even take your hard drive out and put it in another computer and get the data off that way but if you don't know how to do this yourself, I wouldn't recommend it unless you have help.

Malvaro 06-19-2007 10:42 AM

Quote:

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...1-6031733.html

#2: Use Last Known Good Configuration
...
Keep in mind that you get only one shot with the Last Known Good Configuration feature. In other words, if it fails to revive your Windows XP on the first attempt, the backup copy is also corrupt.
I think based on my experiences last night, the backup copy is corrupt....

Malvaro 06-19-2007 11:15 AM

I have reason to believe these are the safest options:

a) Remove the hard-drive, add it to another functional unit and transfer all the data to external portable hard-drive. Once data is secured, then do a complete re-install of operating system on problem computer.

b) Create Windows startup disk, use disk at startup effectively bypassing the "broken" startup files. Once into computer, manually move important data to external portable hard-drive. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...1-6031733.html... (Option #1)

Does this second option risk any further problems or loss of data??? I can't risk the loss of any data.

What is my safest option? I am under no time-contraints to do either option. Either action would be performed by knowledgable computer techie. Any additional comments or things to be aware of?

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-19-2007 04:52 PM

Mal, if you can get a Linux Live Disk to load, you may be able to view what is on the drive and then even move them. This would be very difficult, but COULD be done.

It takes about 4 Gig to load up a Linux Distro-bution. Knoppix has great disk utilities. Also some Tech Boards may help.

Like MajorGeeks.com

Malvaro 06-19-2007 10:33 PM

While in BIOS, I used "Disable automatic restart on system failure" to confirm the below error as the cause....

Quote:

STOP 0x000000ED UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME" Error Message When You Restart Your Computer or Upgrade to Windows XP

Full error code listed: 0x000000ED (0x82B7E960, 0xC0000006, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

SYMPTOMS
When you first restart your computer during the upgrade to Windows XP or when you start Windows XP, you may receive the following error message, where aaaaaaaa, bbbbbbbb, cccccccc, and dddddddd are hexadecimal numbers that may vary:
STOP 0x000000ED (0xaaaaaaaa,0xbbbbbbbb,0xcccccccc,0xdddddddd) UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME


NOTE: If you receive this error message when you restart the computer for the first time during an upgrade to Windows XP, your original operating system still works correctly. In some cases, a message appears on the BIOS report screen that states that the wrong cable is in use, but you may not see this message on computers that have a fast startup time.


CAUSE
This behavior can occur if either of the following conditions is true:
• Your computer uses an Ultra Direct Memory Access (UDMA) hard disk controller, and the following conditions are true:
• You use a standard 40-wire connector cable to connect the UDMA drive to the controller instead of the required 80-wire, 40-pin cable.
• The basic input/output system (BIOS) settings are configured to force the faster UDMA modes.
• The file system is damaged and cannot be mounted.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297185
Any ideas what this means???

Malvaro 06-19-2007 10:39 PM

A similiar user had same error:
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...3214105AAWbpNj

Some of their replies:

Quote:

Start your computer, press delete key so that you go into the BIOS program. Check and see if the system recognizes all of your disk drives. Next, go to Boot Sequence, Make sure that the first boot device is set to the hard drive that has your operating system on it. save and exit BIOS!
Quote:

This is something very normal happening with Windows XP whenever there is an abnormal shutdown of the computer. If you are well conversant with the Recovery CD. All you have to do is Boot from the Recovery Cd. After it is done there you will get the option of Repairing. Select that and a DOS Prompt would open up. There u login with your laptops Administrative user name and password. Then give the command chkdsk /r on the dos prompt.

This can solve your problem (We have solved this problem many a times).
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If your computer is not working properly while you are working on it, it could be a problem with device drivers, hardware or software. Detailed instructions at http://tinyurl.com/yk5zpr

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3. Hardware problems. Computer components like the CPU, fan, RAM start malfunctioning after some time, especially if you use your computer for more than 10 hours a day. Computers with AMD Athlon CPU's generate more heat compared to Intel CPU's and so this problem seems to be more common with these computers.


Malvaro 06-20-2007 07:33 AM

Here are more details to my on-going adventure....

Malvaro 06-20-2007 07:46 AM

Another resource I found: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

Malvaro 06-21-2007 09:13 PM

I'm still waiting on more information from my techie....

CC1 06-21-2007 09:17 PM

Good luck. I hate computer problems. I have meant for ages to get one of those external hard drives with that "one button backup" feature so every night I could just hit that button and know that a backup copy of everything was being made.

My new laptop computer reminds me every week or so to make a backup and since it has a DVD burner right now everything will backup on one DVD so it is not hard to do.

webe123 06-22-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 160889)
He cannot get to the BIOS check screens.

Maybe he has a new paperweight....:sad


Well mabye this will help him make backups AFTER he gets his computer fixed. Can't hurt!

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-22-2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webe123 (Post 164303)
Well mabye this will help him make backups AFTER he gets his computer fixed. Can't hurt!

I aske again- what is a backup?

Was that when I had to reinstall in partition #4 or partition #6 ? (they are both still on the drive!)

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-22-2007 12:18 AM

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Sheltiedad 06-22-2007 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 164312)
I aske again- what is a backup?

Was that when I had to reinstall in partition #4 or partition #6 ? (they are both still on the drive!)

Believe it or not, I have a DLT drive in my house... I stopped using it though once I got a DVD burner.

Malvaro 06-22-2007 08:11 AM

I think I can see a light at the end of the tunnel now....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal's Tech
The attached file will make bootable cd to scan the memory and see if it is faulty. I would try that first, then I would go to best buy and see if they have a SATA to USB adaptor if not you can get one from www.tigerdirect.com so you can get the files off the drive. After you have the files you need I would try to repair the install with the Windows XP cd.

I'm trying to find a local store that has this USB to SATA cable, otherwise I should be able to wrap this whole mess up by early next week sometime....

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-22-2007 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 164419)
I think I can see a light at the end of the tunnel now....



I'm trying to find a local store that has this USB to SATA cable, otherwise I should be able to wrap this whole mess up by early next week sometime....

I would "repair" it with a Linux install!

:boomm

Malvaro 06-22-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 164459)
I would "repair" it with a Linux install!

:boomm

are you wearing a red hat by chance??? :lol

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-22-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 164514)
are you wearing a red hat by chance??? :lol


No, I do not have Fedora Core. I did many years ago. I need to find if my son in law still has that laptop. Debian moved on another track from RH and now even has other forks.

Something to suit everyone!

The French version of FC is called Mandriva

Felicity 06-22-2007 10:02 AM

Help!! We need a translator in this thread!


:D

KwaiQ 06-24-2007 06:40 PM

If you can boot up to the DOS command prompt, type fixboot and press enter. This should scan the disk and repair the directory tree for the MBR.

Malvaro 06-25-2007 03:49 PM

this week is the "rubber meets the road" week when I find out if any of my files are salavagable and whether I need to buy a new computer....

KwaiQ 06-25-2007 04:01 PM

Good Luck!

Malvaro 06-29-2007 05:07 PM

The contents of my crashed hard-drive are currently being transfered to my laptop, as I type.... then from the laptop to the external hard-drive and complete safety (double backup)....

Praise the Lord!!!!

KwaiQ 06-30-2007 08:35 AM

Thanks... although I almost went into an arrhythmia when I saw the bright red 90000 point font!

Malvaro 07-02-2007 08:16 AM

all my data has been tranferred to safety and secured.... and my original Windows environment restored....

KwaiQ 07-02-2007 08:36 AM

Congrats! At least for the next 6 months when Windows crashes on you again...

BoredOutOfMyMind 07-02-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KwaiQ (Post 173810)
Congrats! At least for the next 6 months when Windows crashes on you again...

I crashed the 'nix box once. It CAN be done IF you WORK hard at it.

KwaiQ 07-02-2007 02:59 PM

Never had one go down completely. Apps have froze, but the OS stayed full up and functional.


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