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jediwill83 08-13-2017 02:24 PM

Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
So this is something that has came to my attention. Long story short, it seems there may be a planet on the edge of our solar system that will come very close to Earth wrecking all kinds of havok.

No, Im not a conspiracy guy but my friend has shown me screen shots where it looks like areas of sky observed by NASA has been intentially blacked out.

There is also a tie in with Rev. 12 with mention of a woman who is pregnant and a great red dragon waiting to consume the child...well the constellation in question is Virgo and there are some interesting things happening in that part of the sky with a red looking object.

Anyways, this isnt my wheelhouse and I usually dont go for these kind of things but this has grabbed my attention.

Amanah 08-13-2017 02:35 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
wrong woman

The virgin-goddess "Queen of Heaven" is prevalent in the ancient world for the reason that she is astrological or astrotheological, symbolizing the moon, the earth, Venus, Virgo and the dawn. The many goddesses thus resolve themselves to variants on a theme, one of which is the moon, a feature of the ubiquitous sun-god mythos, in which the moon, by mirroring the sun's light, "gives birth" to the sun. In Christ Lore (30-31), Hackwood describes the astrotheological development of this theme:
"The Virgin Mary is called not only the Mother of God, but the Queen of Heaven. This connects her directly with astronomic lore. The ornamentation of many continental churches often includes a representation of the Sun and Moon "in conjunction," the Moon being therein emblematical of the Virgin and Child….
"As the Moon…is the symbol of Mary, Queen of Heaven, so also a bright Star sometimes symbolizes him whose star was seen over Jerusalem by the Wise Men from the East.
"The many depictions of Mary with the crescent moon reflect her status as the ancient moon goddess, exemplified by the Egyptian goddess Isis."

http://www.truthbeknown.com/mary.html

Esaias 08-13-2017 02:47 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
The "fantastical conjunction" happens quite often. What you've been exposed to is called fake news.

:)

jediwill83 08-13-2017 03:31 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1495174)
The "fantastical conjunction" happens quite often. What you've been exposed to is called fake news.

:)


*gasp* oh noes! will I ever recover????

Aquila 08-14-2017 07:03 AM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
This reminds me of something I stumbled across recently. And the date is coming up... September 23, 2017.

The Great Sign of Revelation 12 occurs in 2017
http://www.watchfortheday.org/1260tetrad.html

Is it true? Probably not. LOL

But it can be interesting reading.

jediwill83 08-14-2017 03:04 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1495287)
This reminds me of something I stumbled across recently. And the date is coming up... September 23, 2017.

The Great Sign of Revelation 12 occurs in 2017
http://www.watchfortheday.org/1260tetrad.html

Is it true? Probably not. LOL

But it can be interesting reading.


so why wouldnt it be true?

Esaias 08-14-2017 04:14 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1495385)
so why wouldnt it be true?

Why would it be true?

Most articles I've seen pushing this contain either factual errors regarding the astronomy, or egregious errors concerning eschatology. Either one puts this right up there with the endless Watchtower predictions, Harold Camping, 88 Reasons, etc.

Most of these people have been making predictions repeatedly for the past 5-10 years, and ALWAYS FAIL. If a guy has a 99% fail rate, he's not somebody to listen to on eschatology. Or "signs" or "omens".

This is, in fact, nothing but astrology, with a Christian veneer. Its no different than what the heathen do, ooh a comet, must be a portent of muh omens of do0m.

Aquila 08-15-2017 09:30 AM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1495385)
so why wouldnt it be true?

Only time will tell.

Aquila 08-15-2017 09:31 AM

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No man will absolutely know when Jesus is coming back. And the events that transpire prior to His coming (of whatever nature they might be) will only be understood by those who know His voice.

Monterrey 08-16-2017 07:09 AM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1495158)
So this is something that has came to my attention. Long story short, it seems there may be a planet on the edge of our solar system that will come very close to Earth wrecking all kinds of havok.

No, Im not a conspiracy guy but my friend has shown me screen shots where it looks like areas of sky observed by NASA has been intentially blacked out.

There is also a tie in with Rev. 12 with mention of a woman who is pregnant and a great red dragon waiting to consume the child...well the constellation in question is Virgo and there are some interesting things happening in that part of the sky with a red looking object.

Anyways, this isnt my wheelhouse and I usually dont go for these kind of things but this has grabbed my attention.

The story of the woman and the dragon is symbolic.

When we read of the birth of the Christ we only see the stories in Matthew and Luke who record the story of the incarnation in a total physical setting. ie the manger, the animals, and etc. What we see from those two Gospels is the physical picture of the birth of the Messiah.

But the Gospel of John does not record the story instead he starts out with Spirit.

But John does tell the story in Rev 12 but he tells the story from a spiritual view as opposed to Matts and Lukes physical.

Rev 12 is the story of what the birth of Christ looked like in the spiritual realm.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

This is Israel.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The promised Messiah....

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


This is satan, the demonic world, and them working through the political systems of the day to destroy the Messiah. We see this played out in the physical in Matthew and Luke.

Mat 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.
Mat 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Mat 2:18 In Ramah was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.


Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


This is Jesus, fulfilling Isaiah.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.


We understand that Matthew wrote to the Jews, Mark wrote to the Romans, Luke wrote to the Greeks, but John wrote to the Church. John's writings are moreso spiritual in aim, this includes Revelation.

Amanah 08-18-2017 08:26 PM

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"The name Lucifer (Is 14:12) is a Latin translation of the Hebrew word Hele, meaning "shining one" Lucifer refers to the Day Star, Venus.

The planet Venus was an important subject for ancient mythology. It is bright when it rises, but, when the sun comes up, Venus becomes invisible like any other star. The prophet mocks the king of Babylon, calling him Lucifer (Is 14:12), a translation of the Hebrew word for the Day Star Venus. The king was trying to rival God, like Venus tired to rival the sun, and the prophet rebuked him in these terms. "(Page 866)

The Chronological Study Bible
Copyright 2008 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


The virgin-goddess "Queen of Heaven" is prevalent in the ancient world for the reason that she is astrological or astrotheological, symbolizing the moon, the earth, Venus, Virgo and the dawn. http://www.truthbeknown.com/mary.html

mfblume 08-20-2017 08:30 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1495721)
The story of the woman and the dragon is symbolic.

When we read of the birth of the Christ we only see the stories in Matthew and Luke who record the story of the incarnation in a total physical setting. ie the manger, the animals, and etc. What we see from those two Gospels is the physical picture of the birth of the Messiah.

But the Gospel of John does not record the story instead he starts out with Spirit.

But John does tell the story in Rev 12 but he tells the story from a spiritual view as opposed to Matts and Lukes physical.

Rev 12 is the story of what the birth of Christ looked like in the spiritual realm.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

This is Israel.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The promised Messiah....

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


This is satan, the demonic world, and them working through the political systems of the day to destroy the Messiah. We see this played out in the physical in Matthew and Luke.

Mat 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.
Mat 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Mat 2:18 In Ramah was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.


Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


This is Jesus, fulfilling Isaiah.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.


We understand that Matthew wrote to the Jews, Mark wrote to the Romans, Luke wrote to the Greeks, but John wrote to the Church. John's writings are moreso spiritual in aim, this includes Revelation.



Amen. Good points. And Rev 12's enthronement of Jesus is the fulfillment of the greatest Old Covenant Prophecy of all.

Psa 110:1-2 KJV....A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. ..(2)....The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

The woman and manchild are fulfilled with Jesus born in Israel and ascended to the throne.

Eph 1:20-22 KJV....Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, ..(21)....Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: ..(22)....And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

Mar 16:19 KJV....So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Evang.Benincasa 08-21-2017 09:09 PM

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What about planet X?

Amanah 08-22-2017 12:27 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Planet X is a term used to describe hypothesized planets, orbiting the Sun. Or the conspiracy version of the planet behind the sun. Opposite to this realm (Which is the true answer and fact; and the true answer to where it lays. There is 15 planet X's in your solar system alone. etc etc).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_X_(disambiguation)

Esaias 08-22-2017 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1496567)
What about planet X?

They keep it in a box at Groom Lake.

Evang.Benincasa 08-22-2017 06:44 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1496625)
They keep it in a box at Groom Lake.

Is it right next to the grays?

Evang.Benincasa 08-27-2017 07:45 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_12_Sign

This must be pretty big.

It has its own WIKI page. :)

Evang.Benincasa 08-27-2017 07:50 PM

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William Tapley the Third Eagle came up with this stuff?

Seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PL...hirdeaglebooks

Evang.Benincasa 08-27-2017 08:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2gK...hirdeaglebooks

Esaias 08-27-2017 09:58 PM

Re: Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12
 
We have a program on our PC called Stellarium. It shows the sky, stars, planets, etc - like ALL of it - from anywhere in the world, any day, any time, down to the second or smaller. And it plays, forward and reverse, at various speeds, so you can watch the stars etc move as they do.

We looked at that date and time. The people pushing this nonsense don't know astronomy. Virgo will be crowned with 15 "stars", if you can call it crowned (not really). Jupiter does not come out from between her feet, it's off to the side/behind Virgo. Virgo is not clothed with the sun, the sun is slightly outside Virgo.

This is nothing but crackpot astrology with a pseudo christian veneer. It wouldn't even pass for genuine astrology.

Verdict? FAIL.

Evang.Benincasa 08-27-2017 10:10 PM

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Does that mean Donald Trump will not convert to Catholicism on the 23rd?

Israel will not be destroyed on the 23rd?

Please just listen to this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm8m...hirdeaglebooks


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