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Esaias 08-20-2017 01:06 AM

Biblical church organization
 
Could someone expound the proper Biblical organization and government of a new covenant apostolic assembly (church)? Please include the following:

What are the necessary components or elements of a scriptural church?

How does a scriptural church come into existence?

What offices, if any, exist in a scriptural church? Please identify them, their names/titles, their roles/responsibilities, their qualifications, and how they are established/appointed/selected or otherwise come to be in a local assembly.

What are the purposes or missions of the church, in relation to the world, to its members, and to other churches?
Also, please be sure to address the following terms:
  • Pastor
  • Bishop
  • Elder
  • Presbytery
  • Overseer and oversight
  • Shepherd
  • Deacon
  • Minister
  • Steward
  • Servant
  • Evangelist
  • Prophet
  • Apostle
  • Teacher
  • Helps
  • Governments
  • Rule

Any insight appreciated, but please no just linking to someone else's article or just copy-pasting someone else's commentary or explanations. Also, please support everything with scriptural citations.

Amanah 08-20-2017 06:44 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Church structure/purpose

Elders and Deacons oversee and administer the church (1 Tim 3)

Elders fulfill the roles of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Ephesians 4:11) (Acts 15:2).

Elders edify the body of Christ to bring it to maturity (Ephesians 4)

Purpose of the church is the preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15)

Esaias 08-27-2017 10:42 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
I guess nobody else wants to take a stab at this?

votivesoul 08-28-2017 02:01 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
I'm interested, but will need to divest myself of other pursuits here. I am off the next two days. Hopefully I can get something together.

TakingDominion 08-30-2017 08:22 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1497968)
I guess nobody else wants to take a stab at this?

Pastor
Church oversight board
department heads
youth pastor
elders
minister of music
outreach director
sound & media technical director

:heeheehee

consapente89 08-30-2017 01:25 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1498263)
Pastor
Church oversight board
department heads
youth pastor
elders
minister of music
outreach director
sound & media technical director

:heeheehee


Sign Team Director!!!

TakingDominion 08-30-2017 10:11 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1498310)
Sign Team Director!!!

Interpretive dance coordinator
Hospitality pastor
Bathroom attendant
and finally....

the pastor because a true God-fearing bible-based preacher should have a servant's spirit :highfive

houston 08-30-2017 10:27 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Armor bearer

votivesoul 08-31-2017 01:17 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1497974)
I'm interested, but will need to divest myself of other pursuits here. I am off the next two days. Hopefully I can get something together.

For now, I'm just going to build the skeleton, and hopefully have the time to come back in and fill in the rest as I go.

So, to start:

1 Corinthians 11:3,

3. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

The organizational structure of the church is as follows:

- God the Father, the Head of Jesus Christ
- Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church
- Body of Christ/Holy Nation/Royal Priesthood/Sons of God/Church
- The Twelve Apostles of the Lamb

Foundational Ministries:

- Apostolic Evangelists/Missionaries (e.g. Paul, Barnabas, Apollos)
- Prophets (e.g. Agabus, Silas, Timothy)

Local Church Expression (Including Governments and Helps)

- Local Assembly Elders/Shepherds/Overseers (must be apt to teach)
- Elder Women/Mothers of the Church (must instruct the young women)
- Deacons
- Mature saints
- Novice Converts

The Family Unit:

- Patriarch
- Matriarch
- Elders (e.g. Grandfathers/Grandmothers)
- Sons and Daughters

Scott Pitta 08-31-2017 04:21 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
I am accustomed to a full time pastor and a volunteer church board.

The endless church cleaning problem is best fixed with a part time janitor.

When the budget permits, part time youth pastor or part time seniors pastor.

Amanah 08-31-2017 04:51 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1498501)
I am accustomed to a full time pastor and a volunteer church board.

The endless church cleaning problem is best fixed with a part time janitor.

When the budget permits, part time youth pastor or part time seniors pastor.

The problem I see is when people think that all ladies don't work outside the home and should be available to clean, bake cakes, cook for church dinners, etc., when in fact most of us have jobs. The fact that we are working adds more money to the collection plate.

Scott Pitta 08-31-2017 05:16 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Agreed. Elderly women doing janitor work creates unnecessary risk of accident. Paying a person to clean means there will be consistency in terms of quality. We had a check list for actual duties. This cleared up the expectations, often previously unexpressed, of what the janitor should do.

If the church building is rented for an occasion, such as a private reception or wedding, payment for the extra janitor work was included in the contract.

For fellowship meals, not enough food would come in to feed everyone. So we would decide after church began, if we would need to make a run to the market to order ham slices and buns to augment the food supply. This worked out quite well. Sometimes we would also order potato salad.

I never asked my wife to cook for a church meal. I always brought food from the market.

Amanah 09-01-2017 06:44 AM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1496396)
Church structure/purpose

Elders and Deacons oversee and administer the church (1 Tim 3)

Elders fulfill the roles of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Ephesians 4:11) (Acts 15:2).

Elders edify the body of Christ to bring it to maturity (Ephesians 4)

Purpose of the church is the preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15)

I forgot something very important:
The church is a family (Acts 2:42, Ephesians 2:19, Gal 3:28, Heb 13:1, 1 Pet 1:22)

n david 09-01-2017 02:59 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1498472)
Armor bearer

Yaaaaas!

I attended a great church here and became friends with a man who is the armor bearer there. He concealed carried using a shoulder holster with, IIRC, a .45. He would stand the entire sermon just off to the side of the platform and would walk around with the Pastor wherever he went while at the church, carrying the Pastor's bible and ipad.

n david 09-01-2017 03:00 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1498505)
The problem I see is when people think that all ladies don't work outside the home and should be available to clean, bake cakes, cook for church dinners, etc., when in fact most of us have jobs. The fact that we are working adds more money to the collection plate.

Well, if ladies were in their proper role, they'd be available to cook and clean at the church!




















































:heeheehee

I'M KIDDING!

houston 09-01-2017 08:46 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1498505)
The problem I see is when people think that all ladies don't work outside the home and should be available to clean, bake cakes, cook for church dinners, etc., when in fact most of us have jobs. The fact that we are working adds more money to the collection plate.

Women belong in the home. God don't need your money.

houston 09-01-2017 08:46 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
*laughs*

houston 09-01-2017 08:47 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1498787)
Yaaaaas!

I attended a great church here and became friends with a man who is the armor bearer there. He concealed carried using a shoulder holster with, IIRC, a .45. He would stand the entire sermon just off to the side of the platform and would walk around with the Pastor wherever he went while at the church, carrying the Pastor's bible and ipad.

Are you serious? That's ridiculous. The pastor does not need a body guard. He needs someone to fetch a glass of worter.

Amanah 09-01-2017 10:58 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
My husband is disabled since he broke his neck. He moves around with great difficulty and works from home teaching college online to online students. He is an Electrical Engineer by trade, but has a PhD in International Business which allows him to teach College level classes. The main reason I work is because of health insurance. Not only does my husband have issues walking, but he is a heart patient and our doctor bills and meds are expensive.

I wonder if all women who work outside the home left the church and took their paychecks with them if their absence would be felt. To be honest, I make more than most of the men in our church.

I understand that I am not the epitome of the ideal woman and maybe I should not even post here or sully the forum with my female presence.

I wonder if you extend the disdain that you feel for me for the women who work in your church family, no you likely hide it.

houston 09-01-2017 11:30 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
I was JK.

I guess you're not too familiar with that "Houston" guy.

Amanah 09-01-2017 11:39 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1498839)
I was JK.

I guess you're not too familiar with that "Houston" guy.

:highfive

CC1 09-02-2017 09:25 PM

Re: Biblical church organization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1496390)
Could someone expound the proper Biblical organization and government of a new covenant apostolic assembly (church)? Please include the following:

What are the necessary components or elements of a scriptural church?

How does a scriptural church come into existence?

What offices, if any, exist in a scriptural church? Please identify them, their names/titles, their roles/responsibilities, their qualifications, and how they are established/appointed/selected or otherwise come to be in a local assembly.

What are the purposes or missions of the church, in relation to the world, to its members, and to other churches?
Also, please be sure to address the following terms:
  • Pastor
  • Bishop
  • Elder
  • Presbytery
  • Overseer and oversight
  • Shepherd
  • Deacon
  • Minister
  • Steward
  • Servant
  • Evangelist
  • Prophet
  • Apostle
  • Teacher
  • Helps
  • Governments
  • Rule

Any insight appreciated, but please no just linking to someone else's article or just copy-pasting someone else's commentary or explanations. Also, please support everything with scriptural citations.

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