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houston 08-22-2017 11:10 AM

Job rant
 
I do security. I was removed from my post last night (asked not to go in, asked to stop by branch office). I went into the branch office this morning. I was told that the client asked that I not return to the site because of an issue that I have with the maintenance guy.

I wasn't aware that there was an issue, other than the guy giving dirty looks, and trying to catch security guards not doing their jobs.

Anyway.... the only other posts available will require a cut in pay. Not real significant of a cut. But I don't want the cut... or another post.

I have been with this company (security co, not the post) for 5 yrs 5 1/2 months. I think I would prefer that they let me go so i can collect unemployment benefits for a little while.

I do have an app on file with a company that does strike/crisis security. I am on a waiting list of availability. If they call me this week it would be the greatest thing ever.

I'm feeling kinda down right now. I'm behind on most everything. Today's meeting left me feeling deflated.

*sigh*

Amanah 08-22-2017 11:23 AM

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Pray and see where God wants you to be. Maybe this is an exciting opportunity for change.

Jermyn Davidson 08-22-2017 11:29 AM

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I understand the discouragement. I understand being behind on everything. I have been there-- but can I tell you something?

I promise that you will look back on all of this as waters gone by.

Things might get better right away. Things might get worse and stay bad for awhile. It won't always be bad. You will not always struggle financially, especially if you start making decisions now that will help your financial future.

I will pray for you.

aegsm76 08-22-2017 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1496613)
I understand the discouragement. I understand being behind on everything. I have been there-- but can I tell you something?

I promise that you will look back on all of this as waters gone by.

Things might get better right away. Things might get worse and stay bad for awhile. It won't always be bad. You will not always struggle financially, especially if you start making decisions now that will help your financial future.

I will pray for you.

Amen to what JD said.

TakingDominion 08-22-2017 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1496607)
I do security. I was removed from my post last night (asked not to go in, asked to stop by branch office). I went into the branch office this morning. I was told that the client asked that I not return to the site because of an issue that I have with the maintenance guy.

I wasn't aware that there was an issue, other than the guy giving dirty looks, and trying to catch security guards not doing their jobs.

Anyway.... the only other posts available will require a cut in pay. Not real significant of a cut. But I don't want the cut... or another post.

I have been with this company (security co, not the post) for 5 yrs 5 1/2 months. I think I would prefer that they let me go so i can collect unemployment benefits for a little while.

I do have an app on file with a company that does strike/crisis security. I am on a waiting list of availability. If they call me this week it would be the greatest thing ever.

I'm feeling kinda down right now. I'm behind on most everything. Today's meeting left me feeling deflated.

*sigh*

I have to say, if you're behind on some bills as you say, then I don't think the answer is to collect unemployment. Isn't unemployment usually less than your paycheck? Honest question here as thankfully, I've never had to collect UE benefits.

I will be praying for you.

CC1 08-22-2017 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1496607)
I do security. I was removed from my post last night (asked not to go in, asked to stop by branch office). I went into the branch office this morning. I was told that the client asked that I not return to the site because of an issue that I have with the maintenance guy.

I wasn't aware that there was an issue, other than the guy giving dirty looks, and trying to catch security guards not doing their jobs.

Anyway.... the only other posts available will require a cut in pay. Not real significant of a cut. But I don't want the cut... or another post.

I have been with this company (security co, not the post) for 5 yrs 5 1/2 months. I think I would prefer that they let me go so i can collect unemployment benefits for a little while.

I do have an app on file with a company that does strike/crisis security. I am on a waiting list of availability. If they call me this week it would be the greatest thing ever.

I'm feeling kinda down right now. I'm behind on most everything. Today's meeting left me feeling deflated.

*sigh*

Hate you are going through a tough time like this. I will be praying that the right door opens for you although to be honest I won't be praying that they let you go and you collect unemployment insurance "for awhile". I think welfare is the absolute last resort and does not do a person good either psychologically or physically. Why not take the lesser paying position with your current company but also simultaneously start actively looking for an alternative employer who will pay you what you were getting paid?

Praxeas 08-22-2017 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1496607)
I do security. I was removed from my post last night (asked not to go in, asked to stop by branch office). I went into the branch office this morning. I was told that the client asked that I not return to the site because of an issue that I have with the maintenance guy.

I wasn't aware that there was an issue, other than the guy giving dirty looks, and trying to catch security guards not doing their jobs.

Anyway.... the only other posts available will require a cut in pay. Not real significant of a cut. But I don't want the cut... or another post.

I have been with this company (security co, not the post) for 5 yrs 5 1/2 months. I think I would prefer that they let me go so i can collect unemployment benefits for a little while.

I do have an app on file with a company that does strike/crisis security. I am on a waiting list of availability. If they call me this week it would be the greatest thing ever.

I'm feeling kinda down right now. I'm behind on most everything. Today's meeting left me feeling deflated.

*sigh*

That stinks. My roomie went through a similar situation with his security company.

Esaias 08-22-2017 02:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1496607)
I do security. I was removed from my post last night (asked not to go in, asked to stop by branch office). I went into the branch office this morning. I was told that the client asked that I not return to the site because of an issue that I have with the maintenance guy.

I wasn't aware that there was an issue, other than the guy giving dirty looks, and trying to catch security guards not doing their jobs.

Anyway.... the only other posts available will require a cut in pay. Not real significant of a cut. But I don't want the cut... or another post.

I have been with this company (security co, not the post) for 5 yrs 5 1/2 months. I think I would prefer that they let me go so i can collect unemployment benefits for a little while.

I do have an app on file with a company that does strike/crisis security. I am on a waiting list of availability. If they call me this week it would be the greatest thing ever.

I'm feeling kinda down right now. I'm behind on most everything. Today's meeting left me feeling deflated.

*sigh*

Go to work for Academi. Heard they pay real good. They have jobs all over, including exotic foreign locales like Iraq, and Somalia, Yemen, and probably Syria.

:heeheehee

returnman 08-22-2017 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1496630)
Hate you are going through a tough time like this. I will be praying that the right door opens for you although to be honest I won't be praying that they let you go and you collect unemployment insurance "for awhile". I think welfare is the absolute last resort and does not do a person good either psychologically or physically. Why not take the lesser paying position with your current company but also simultaneously start actively looking for an alternative employer who will pay you what you were getting paid?

I have to disagree on calling unemployment welfare. Maybe the mode in which he is suggesting is not right but nah, not the same as getting on welfare.

Esaias 08-22-2017 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by returnman (Post 1496644)
I have to disagree on calling unemployment welfare. Maybe the mode in which he is suggesting is not right but nah, not the same as getting on welfare.

Unemployment (as I understand it), is insurance paid by the company "in the event of" wrongful termination.

Welfare is tax money given to people for not having money.

Definitely a difference.

As to whether one or the other or both are right or wrong... different issue, I think.

Jermyn Davidson 08-22-2017 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by returnman (Post 1496644)
I have to disagree on calling unemployment welfare. Maybe the mode in which he is suggesting is not right but nah, not the same as getting on welfare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1496650)
Unemployment (as I understand it), is insurance paid by the company "in the event of" wrongful termination.

Welfare is tax money given to people for not having money.

Definitely a difference.

As to whether one or the other or both are right or wrong... different issue, I think.


Funny thing. I have always been hesitant about seeking unemployment benefits because I looked at it as a form of welfare.

HOWEVER, there are people who decide to boost their education / trade skills while living off of unemployment. If I were to use unemployment benefits, this would seem like a wise way to invest my time.

CC1 08-22-2017 07:49 PM

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I understand the technical difference between unemployment insurance and welfare. I also know that unemployment insurance is abused many times by folks who are not really looking for a job as well as used by those who genuinely need it.

I look at it as welfare because I have close relatives who during the recent recession relied on it through all of the extensions the government made because they couldn't find a job that paid enough (they had a Master's Degree). This man was on unemployment insurance for over a year when any day he could have taken a job not to his liking that would have paid as much while he looked for the perfect job. I think he learned his lesson though because later when he and his wife paid their dues by humbling themselves and doing menial work (delivering pizza's, waitering, and washing dishes for a caterer) God blessed him with the perfect job making almost double the money he had ever made previously. The funny thing is this guy is pretty conservative and on principle is against "handouts" but was caught up in it himself when he could just keep on getting it.

I also have memories as a teenager in the Deep South how abused it was. I remember going with a cousin in Louisiana to the unemployment office to turn in his weekly report of where he had tried to find work (yes this was a few decades before the internet) and the government employee behind the counter helped him make up places he had supposedly looked for work.

Again a good thing in many instances and no shame in taking it when honestly needed but anytime you can get income without working it is not good to be idle or get used to it.

MawMaw 08-23-2017 05:05 PM

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We were recently on unemployment for about 3 weeks. Definitely does not pay the bills. But does help buy a few groceries and get gas for your vehicle. Thankfully the Lord has provided yet again another job for my hubby so we are getting everything back in order bill wise....sure doesn't take long to get all that out of whack :p

Houston, I will pray that God provides you with a better job than what you had and one that pays alot better too!! :D In the meantime if you need that unemployment....get it. :nod

CC1 08-23-2017 05:28 PM

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Houston,

I know in the middle of a stressful time it is hard to take the long view but I am praying that this short term suffering leads to a long term better employment situation for you. Hang in there!

houston 08-31-2017 07:55 PM

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I applied at some companies. I received a response today from a strike/crisis security company. However, I don't have the $ necessary to hold until the first pay period. So that is out of the ?

I have an app in at a company that recently hired my former supervisor. So that is a plus.

houston 09-01-2017 12:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1496883)
Houston,

I know in the middle of a stressful time it is hard to take the long view but I am praying that this short term suffering leads to a long term better employment situation for you. Hang in there!

Thanks.

houston 09-01-2017 12:23 PM

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I haven't worked in 2 weeks. What a blow. I received an email from my credit union stating that this months loan (car payment) is going to be skipped. Every July (summer vacation) and December (Christmas shopping) the credit union offers what they call Skip-A-Pay. It's automatically applied to accounts unless opted out. This allows people to use what would have been a loan payment for other things like vacation or Christmas shopping. Oh, yeah... so, this month they are offering Skip-A-Pay for those affected by the hurricane. Though not affected, this has relieved some of the pressure I have been under stressing over bills-bills-bills.

What is it called when your company won't lay you off or terminate you, but has you in limbo so that you don't collect unemployment?

houston 09-01-2017 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1496880)
We were recently on unemployment for about 3 weeks. Definitely does not pay the bills. But does help buy a few groceries and get gas for your vehicle. Thankfully the Lord has provided yet again another job for my hubby so we are getting everything back in order bill wise....sure doesn't take long to get all that out of whack :p

Houston, I will pray that God provides you with a better job than what you had and one that pays alot better too!! :D In the meantime if you need that unemployment....get it. :nod

I'm hoping this leads to a better job, as CC1 mentioned. It may have. What's it called when you know someone in the company that may put it a good word for you?

houston 09-01-2017 04:27 PM

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I have a job interview on Monday for to be part of an emergency response team. This is at the company where my former supervisor obtained employment. The pay is $5 more per hour. The position may require travel to East Texas, Conroe, Kingwood, or other areas affected by the hurricane. When the position is no longer needed the company will find a place to put those that were hired to be on the ERT. Pay will probably be lowered. But, this company usually pays a higher hourly rate than the mom/pop security companies.

CC1 09-02-2017 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1498795)
I have a job interview on Monday for to be part of an emergency response team. This is at the company where my former supervisor obtained employment. The pay is $5 more per hour. The position may require travel to East Texas, Conroe, Kingwood, or other areas affected by the hurricane. When the position is no longer needed the company will find a place to put those that were hired to be on the ERT. Pay will probably be lowered. But, this company usually pays a higher hourly rate than the mom/pop security companies.

Houston, I am praying that this job interview Monday goes well and you get hired. Keep us posted!

Pressing-On 09-03-2017 08:24 AM

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Praying your interview goes well tomorrow!!!

houston 09-04-2017 12:10 PM

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Alright. So, I applied to be part of the ERT. But there was a manager in the office who needs officers for his post at a mall that has a bad rep. He interviewed me for a position and offered employment. ERT is temp. But that could last anywhere from a month to a year. So I accepted the post at the mall... and then I was asked if I am bilingual. I stated that I am not. He said that I look bilingual. Nah, bro.

Anyway... orientation is on Wednesday for a position on the ERT.

KeptByTheWord 09-04-2017 12:56 PM

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Glad you got the job Houston, praying it works out, or the Lord opens a better and safer position for you!

TheLayman 09-04-2017 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1499295)
Alright. So, I applied to be part of the ERT. But there was a manager in the office who needs officers for his post at a mall that has a bad rep. He interviewed me for a position and offered employment. ERT is temp. But that could last anywhere from a month to a year. So I accepted the post at the mall... and then I was asked if I am bilingual. I stated that I am not. He said that I look bilingual. Nah, bro.

Anyway... orientation is on Wednesday for a position on the ERT.

Hello houston:

Just so you know, you don't need to be terminated to collect unemployment benefits. If you are laid off you are eligible for unemployment. In some cases if you are a full time employee whose hours have been significantly (for example, you are changed from full time to part time status) you may be eligible for benefits. At any rate, if you had been a full time employee for five years and then you don't work for two weeks, if you haven't been fired you have been laid off. You are not an employee of the company that contracted for your services, you are an employee of the security company that you are working for (just as the manager, admin, and others are).

However, just getting another job is the best thing (but if it were to take some time to find a position, I just want you to know that you should be eligible to receive those benefits, as someone said, it will help by groceries but remember you will need to pay taxes on unemployment and they are not withheld from the check).

All of that said I'm not sure if I'm understanding you and I'm curious. Were you hired by the mall only to be terminated because they mistakenly thought you were bilingual? And you had decided against the ERT job because of the uncertainty of steady income but since the mall let you go before you started, you decided to take the ERT job and orientation will be Wednesday?

TheLayman

houston 09-04-2017 01:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1499303)
Glad you got the job Houston, praying it works out, or the Lord opens a better and safer position for you!

Thank you

houston 09-04-2017 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLayman (Post 1499305)


All of that said I'm not sure if I'm understanding you and I'm curious. Were you hired by the mall only to be terminated because they mistakenly thought you were bilingual? And you had decided against the ERT job because of the uncertainty of steady income but since the mall let you go before you started, you decided to take the ERT job and orientation will be Wednesday?

TheLayman

I wasn't offered a post at a mall because the manager assumed I am bilingual. I wasn't term'd. The office is open today to conduct ERT interviews but this manager has slots to fill at his account so he came in to try to have them filled.
When I told him that I am not bilingual he stated that the client requires the new hires to speak espanish.

So I skipped the ERT interview and went straight to the paperwork for the ERT position.

This all took place in one office... one company. I'm sorry. I ramble,

Esaias 09-04-2017 01:42 PM

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The ERT experience will look good on your resume.

Pressing-On 09-04-2017 02:42 PM

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Glad you found employment!!

houston 09-04-2017 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1499313)
Glad you found employment!!

Same. I need to eat. Lol

Pressing-On 09-05-2017 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1499320)
Same. I need to eat. Lol

They say that money doesn't make a man happy, but I beg to differ. :heeheehee

aegsm76 09-05-2017 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1499408)
They say that money doesn't make a man happy, but I beg to differ. :heeheehee

That quote should be modified to "not having money will make you unhappy"!

Pressing-On 09-05-2017 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1499410)
That quote should be modified to "not having money will make you unhappy"!

"If you've got a dollar and you spend 29 cents on a loaf of bread, you've got 71 cents left; But if you've got seventeen grand and you spend 29 cents on a loaf of bread, you've still got seventeen grand. There's a math lesson for you.” - Steve Martin

:heeheehee

Amanah 09-05-2017 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1499413)
"If you've got a dollar and you spend 29 cents on a loaf of bread, you've got 71 cents left; But if you've got seventeen grand and you spend 29 cents on a loaf of bread, you've still got seventeen grand. There's a math lesson for you.” - Steve Martin

:heeheehee

you are silly :happydance

randyabrown 09-05-2017 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1499309)
I wasn't offered a post at a mall because the manager assumed I am bilingual. I wasn't term'd. The office is open today to conduct ERT interviews but this manager has slots to fill at his account so he came in to try to have them filled.
When I told him that I am not bilingual he stated that the client requires the new hires to speak espanish.

So I skipped the ERT interview and went straight to the paperwork for the ERT position.

This all took place in one office... one company. I'm sorry. I ramble,

Sorry for your work troubles. Congratulations on finding something so quickly.

houston 09-28-2017 09:09 PM

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UPDATE:

I am VERY pleased with the new job. :) I did file unemployment for the time off at the other company. My claim was approved today. I get paid tomorrow.

returnman 10-04-2017 02:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1504027)
UPDATE:

I am VERY pleased with the new job. :) I did file unemployment for the time off at the other company. My claim was approved today. I get paid tomorrow.

Good for you. I know the thread has gotten a little old but I still don't look at unemployment as welfare. The same people who abuse the system are probably marginal employees when on somebody's payroll to begin with and look at it as an opportunity to do nothing and get paid. I was one who went back to school on the Trade Act program years ago. I finished the degree, worked part time and yes, drew unemployment. That was in 2002. I have probably been out of work a total of 8 months over the last 15 years.

houston 10-04-2017 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by returnman (Post 1504901)
Good for you. I know the thread has gotten a little old but I still don't look at unemployment as welfare. The same people who abuse the system are probably marginal employees when on somebody's payroll to begin with and look at it as an opportunity to do nothing and get paid. I was one who went back to school on the Trade Act program years ago. I finished the degree, worked part time and yes, drew unemployment. That was in 2002. I have probably been out of work a total of 8 months over the last 15 years.

I agree, it is not welfare. Though, some people do abuse it. I have an uncle who was on unemployment for what seemed like 2 years or more. I don’t know if that is even possible. He got extensions. This was during O’s term when it seemed everyone was getting laid off. And it’s not like my uncle couldn’t find a job. He has so many years experience and people did offer employment when they learned that he was out of work.

I have a cousin who was laid off from her job because the position was eliminated. The company gave her 1 or 2 months pay and she is on unemployment. But she hasn’t really looked for a job and is now panicking because she is going to run out of benefits soon. SMH


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