Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1501611)

Not good form.

Sounds like...

Luke 18:11 KJV The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

It's got the tone of putting others down to make a point, instead of just making a point without pointing to others.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501608)

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501625)

When God instructs me to speak, political correctness goes out the door.

Proverbs 8:9
"They are all straightforward to him who understands, And right to those who find knowledge.

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1501676)

Above all else, the objective of God’s will for our life is to win souls before all else. If we’re not winning souls in our walk, we’re deviating from God’s will.

Not true. We are not commissioned to "win souls" but rather to make disciples. Paul said it like this: "Christ sent me, not to baptise, but to preach the gospel." In other works, the mission is to proclaim the gospel, not "secure conversions". When we think "the purpose in life is to WIN SOULS" we inadvertently start thinking the ends justifies the means. The very problem you complain about - "programs" - are a result of "win souls is our mission" thinking.

Our purpose is not to win anybody. It is to preach the gospel. God is responsible for converting people, not us. We are to be heralds, not salesmen. Fulfilling God's calling on one's life is not measured by the number of converts one gets, but by how faithful one has proclaimed the word to those around them.

BTW, I dont think I have really heard too much of the kind of praying you mentioned, to be honest. It is usually "send somebody my way" or "direct me to those whom You have prepared", etc.

There is nothing wrong with praying "Lord, send me to someone" unless it's an excuse to do nothing without some super big gigantic "impulse of the Spirit" or something.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501608)

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1501756)

Question here...based on this and previous posts it is apparent that you have no respect for the man that you call "pastor" or the congregants in your local assembly. Why do you attend there since you are so spiritually superior to them?

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1501757)

Amen, BW is arrogant.

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1501676)

Above all else, the objective of God’s will for our life is to win souls before all else. If we’re not winning souls in our walk, we’re deviating from God’s will.

Not true. We are not commissioned to "win souls" but rather to make disciples. Paul said it like this: "Christ sent me, not to baptise, but to preach the gospel." In other works, the mission is to proclaim the gospel, not "secure conversions". When we think "the purpose in life is to WIN SOULS" we inadvertently start thinking the ends justifies the means. The very problem you complain about - "programs" - are a result of "win souls is our mission" thinking.

Our purpose is not to win anybody. It is to preach the gospel. God is responsible for converting people, not us. We are to be heralds, not salesmen. Fulfilling God's calling on one's life is not measured by the number of converts one gets, but by how faithful one has proclaimed the word to those around them.

BTW, I dont think I have really heard too much of the kind of praying you mentioned, to be honest. It is usually "send somebody my way" or "direct me to those whom You have prepared", etc.

There is nothing wrong with praying "Lord, send me to someone" unless it's an excuse to do nothing without some super big gigantic "impulse of the Spirit" or something.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1501677)

I am not talking about refusing to be politically correct. I am talking about whether or not our words reflect a better-than-thou attitude or not. That is an issue of self exaltation.

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1501756)

Question here...based on this and previous posts it is apparent that you have no respect for the man that you call "pastor" or the congregants in your local assembly. Why do you attend there since you are so spiritually superior to them?

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1501757)

Amen, BW is arrogant.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501801)

There's no self-exaltation is my posting. I even commented how it was easier for me to spark up conversations about firearms, but lacked sharing the gospel before God convicted me.

So now being repentant and learning from my mistakes makes me superior?

Stupidity at its best.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501801)

There's no self-exaltation is my posting. I even commented how it was easier for me to spark up conversations about firearms, but lacked sharing the gospel before God convicted me.

So now being repentant and learning from my mistakes makes me superior?

Stupidity at its best.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501799)

MfBlume,

There's no self-exaltation is my posting. I even commented how it was easier for me to spark up conversations about firearms, but lacked sharing the gospel before God convicted me.

There's no self-exaltation because I learned from my mistakes. Being repentant isn't being arrogant.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1501814)

You put down others to compare yourself with them. You listed what they think and how you don't want to do that. Pharisee and publican all over again.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1496778)

The majority of Pentecostals are liars, evil beasts, and lazy gluttons. I wonder why preachers don't preach on gluttony?

Heck, I wouldn't preach against any sin I indulge!

I thank God that am holier than all you Pentecostals and don't embrace gluttony.

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1501806)

You didn't answer my question. If the people in your church are so sub-par, even to the point of your pastor teaching the heinous doctrine of tithing and wasting their time praying for souls while God speaks to you about how inferior their prayers are....why are you still there?

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501825)

Did I mention it was my church?

I see you're crystal ball must be malfunctioning.

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1501806)

You didn't answer my question. If the people in your church are so sub-par, even to the point of your pastor teaching the heinous doctrine of tithing and wasting their time praying for souls while God speaks to you about how inferior their prayers are....why are you still there?

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1479164)

Really? You're telling me God isn't capable of delivering a message through me to correct a pastor?

Which God do you serve? You, my friend, need to put God back on the pedestal.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1479141)

David,

Last week I was out-of-state and a pastor friend offered me a position within his church. However, I didn't reply with an answer.

I can't tell you I would be perfect, but I will tell you something. If I were ever to become a pastor, I would be the man that I would want leading me.

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1479110)

Everyone is equally important!

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1479099)

I know a few churches whose youth leader couldn't lead ants to a cow patty for feasting, much-less teach their youth how to maintain a relationship with god. So, to keep the youth in church, they bring in colored lights and smoke machines into youth services to entertain them! :eek::bolt:stirpot

I didn't know the Holy Ghost was too weak and boring, that it would need the assistance of colored lights and smoke machines to win and keep the youth.

FYI...I'm only 38 years of age.

God, I don't know what happened between my youth until the present day. Where did you fail? In my teenage years, your word and spirit kept me. I didn't need the assistance of smoke machines and colored lights to be kept by you. The awe of your power and who you are, they were enough for me until I decided to leave your presence for a few years, in my rebelliousness. However, it was your mercy that allowed me repentance and reconciliation of our relationship in my early adulthood years.

God, I'm curious, if your word and power were good enough for me in my teenage years, why isn't it good enough for the youth now? Are you lacking somewhere? Are you losing your touch? Why have church services adopted colored lights and smoke machines into church services? God, could it be that your ways are too old fashion?

God, could it be that our current leaders have just gone stupid? Could it be that our present youths and leaders live on a hype of emotionalism, have no clue in maintaining a relationship with you, so they need entertainment? Could it be that our current leaders don't know how to get a hold of you, so they substitute the leading of your spirit with a bunch of stupidity? Are they too stupid to realize that nothing can substitute the results of prayer and fasting?

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1501814)

You put down others to compare yourself with them. You listed what they think and how you don't want to do that. Pharisee and publican all over again.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1501831)

Here's another entry of your diary.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1501830)

Yes, we know. Jesus love everyone but YOU are His favorite. :yourock

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501833)

Let me ask you a few questions, and I'll use you as an example, okay?

And please don't dance around the questions. A simple yes or no will suffice.


1)You're behind a pulpit preaching about Israel's exodus, and how they saw God's miraculous power, and how they constantly deviated to serving idols and doubting god.
2)You then tell you're congregation that you didn't understand why Israel would revert to idols and doubting
3)You then say that after God manifested himself to you, you wouldn't be like the Israelites turning from God after you've seen God work in your life.


My Questions to you:

1) Are you degrading the Israelites?
2) Are you being arrogant?
3) Are you comparing yourself to the Israelites?
4) Are you superior to the Israelites because you compared yourself to them?
5) Are you arrogant and/or superior because because you wouldn't act like the Israelites?
6) Are you arrogant for delivering a word from God and telling the people not be like the Israelites?
7) If your congregation erected an idol and began to worship it, would you be disappointed at your congregation for emulating the Israelites after you delivered your sermon on of the Israelites?


I'm curious to know your answers.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1501827)

You mean...this one?

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501837)

We're talking about my initial post in this thread. I see the both of you lack comprehension.

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1474579)

Such a lack of respect....

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1474656)

Oh spare me......What about a lack of respect for using the word of God to enforce something that's no longer valid?

What happened to Paul's comment in 2 Corinth 9:7-(AMP)
Let each one give [thoughtfully and with purpose] just as he has decided in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver [and delights in the one whose heart is in his gift].



Where in this scripture is Paul commanding tithing for the New Testament church?

Can you answer that?

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501834)

What about it?

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501837)

We're talking about my initial post in this thread. I see the both of you lack comprehension.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1501836)

Answer my question posed to you first and then I will answer these. I promise.

Whose words do you sound more like? The pharisee or the publican?

Luke 18:10-14 KJV Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. (11) The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. (12) I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. (13) And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. (14) I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


Whose words did yours sound most like?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1501839)

Picking on Sister Alvear? :foottap

Originally Posted by BrainWashed (Post 1501842)

Sure! I'll answer. Thereafter I'll be interested in you answering my questions.

If I was exalting myself above Pentecostals with a self-righteous attitude, there's no doubt my comments would be associated with the Pharisee.

However, after you answer my questions, you'll understand the source and attitude behind my comments.

I will await your answers.