Babylon in Rev. is not Jerusalem
 

Rev. 18
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:....



Zech 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.



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When I have read of Babylon in Revelations, I have thought of New York or America in general.

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The point of this thread is not who Babylon is, but who it is not.

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The OP clearly shows us that Babylon is not Jerusalem.

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Your questions about the O P are welcome. This thread is to clear the air about Jerusalem being forever destroyed. In fact, just the opposite is true.

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Jerusalem shall rise up to be the headquarters of Jesus Christ on earth.

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Sean, do you know what Aelia Capitolina is?

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No, never heard of it.

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Now I heard of it....


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Ro7gF-qXaCz12Q


What a mess.

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Hi!

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What does the term new Jerusalem mean? The term in scripture refers to coming down from heaven, there for it must be spiritual not physical.

Babylon is speaking of the physical Jerusalem.

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Does the OP describe the same city?.....

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Rev 22:14.. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city... (New Jerusalem)

Rev 21:24.. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it...
Rev 21:25.. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there...

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Oh yeah, thanks for posting the verses about the heavenly Jerusalem.

Of course it is not about the Jerusalem in Zech 14, but it is our eternal city anyway.


The city I mentioned in Zech 14 is a wee bit different than the Rev. 21-22 city.

Here are some excerpts of the city of Jerusalem in Zech 14....


11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.

21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.

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Who is Egypt?

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Why is Egypt singled out for not coming to the feasts?

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Not sure, but they will be made a first example.


Then the rest will dare not follow their example.....


..... and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

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What do you mean you're not sure??? You are just like those who preach tithes and when questioned say they are not sure. you wouldn't accept that from us tithe teachers, but you conveniently use it??? Sean, You are the big bad superman over at CARM? What do you mean you're not sure, either you are the teacher or not.

Are Gentiles? Care to explain? Do you have a clue? Leader of the Oneness!!! :lol

Why is the punishment only for one feast?

Care to explain?

Mr CARM killer!!!! :laffatu

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Back to the OP.

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Not the same city.

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What do you mean you're not sure??? You are just like those who preach tithes and when questioned say they are not sure. you wouldn't accept that from us tithe teachers, but you conveniently use it??? Sean, You are the big bad superman over at CARM? What do you mean you're not sure, either you are the teacher or not.

Are Gentiles? Care to explain? Do you have a clue? Leader of the Oneness!!! :lol

Why is the punishment only for one feast?

Care to explain?

Mr CARM killer!!!! :laffatu

What a Turkey, you don't know.

Sean, defender of the skates on CARM.

King of DEBATES on AFF.

What a laugh!!!!

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You are wrong. :lol

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How about that one liner Sean?

Just like you do on CARM :laffatu

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just like you do here!!! :laffatu

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Am I reading this correctly? In Sean's millennium God is going to withhold rain... and send a plague?

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Correction, Jesus' millennium.