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I haven't been around here much in a while, but some of the recent posts concerning the UPCI's articles of faith have triggered some thoughts. The entertainment industry has more to do with violence than anything else. People are blaming guns for much of the violence, while people are constantly being entertained by shootouts, murder, adultary, and fornication.

People are battleing the devil in their minds and they wonder why, when they have filled their minds with garbage. Guns are not the cause of violence, it is the wicked hearts of this generation. It is time people start identifying the wicked appetites they have.

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Very well said.

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Early on I advocated for Christians to produce good movies.
But since most Christians abandoned Hollywood, well we get only movies made by sinners, what do you expect.

Until we Christians return to Hollywood and transform it, it will continue to produce garbage.

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Amen.

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there are some decent movies being made now, like Courageous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmkiTVVdms

and War Room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXgC_HLLcCQ

these movies are getting a great reception, and are making money, so we can expect to see more like these.

Also, there are educational resources, like The Great Courses. My husband and I have a very extensive dvd/cd library of education material.https://www.thegreatcourses.com/

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and there are some history based movies that Hollywood puts out that are worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pNOCzV5jG0

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a movie about the pentagon papers and how The Post exposed the lies of the Government

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvvLNv_iAww

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Recently had a young lady in our church come to me about a Christian movie that she had watched and asked if this was something that was a good alternative to the kinds of things she used to watch. I tried to be slow to answer, remembering the process that God brought me through to purge me of these things. My answer was this "I went through the same process but I found I had to move completely away from Hollywood entertainment because the "Christian and Educational" material created an appetite that took me back to the same old smut I used to watch."

If you are watching "Christian and Educational movies" now, it won't be long before you are watching television with everyone else. Mainstream Pentecost has proven this when they started allowing "monitors" for certain limited types of content. Now the majority are watching whatever floats across their screen. "Christian content" in a Hollywood style film is Satan's bait. How many Pentecostals went to the movie theatre for the first time in their lives to see the Passion of the Christ? Even more curious...how many went back later on to see something else?

We need to get back to the Old Time Pentecost and Old Time Convictions that made this movement a power house!

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Oh by the way, it was in an all night prayer meeting after I spoke with this young lady that God started moving on her mom and laying a deep burden on her heart for her children. The next day God gave her a vision of her son sitting in the living room watching television while demons were coming through the screen and putting their filthy hands on the boy. The television is now gone! She recently testified "and we're not watching it on our cell phones or computer either!"

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:thumbsup

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Very good post.

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So because you can’t control yourself.... no one can. Ok.

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Can we moderately indulge in sin. I will watch a little sex and violance, and cut it off, right.... Even the animation they put out is full of induendo's and it is regarded as comedy.

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Please help me, I am addicted to eating coffee cookies, therefore since I can not eat those cookies in moderation, I will ban all coffee cookies and will declare it a sin for everyone else.

OK from now on anyone who eats coffee cookies is in disobedience to me and therefore you are not a true Apostolic.

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The government does it all the time. Parents do it all the time.

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Hebrews 13:17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

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Food is not a very good comparison. All food is o.k. but if not in moderation it is deemed gluttony. In regards to television espeacially hollywood films, they do not represent Christian values. Open shut case. How many movies don't have some type of induendo that uses sin as comedy or entertainment. examples: homosexuality, effeminate men, masculine women, infedelity, immodesty, violence, crude humor, irreverance to God, magic, etc... If you don't notice it in the hollywood movies is probably because you have became numb to it.

No matter what we teach our children about morality, if we find entertainment in immorality we are sending mixed signals. Even TBN can be dangerous because we allow ministry to speak into our lives who have not be proven when the scripture teaches us to know them that labour among us. People don't pay near enough attention into what they are feeding their spiritual man. I am not perfect by any stretch, but I have been dealing alot with this as of lately in my own family. Not shaming anyone just food for thought.

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:highfive

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I am quite aware that Hollywood does not represent our Christian values, so I am not a defender of Hollywood, what all the time I have fought against is the blanket prohibition for all television watching.

According to the overreach of some of those preachers, you could not even go shopping to Walmart, for that place always had TVs turned on.
According to their silly logic, just one look at TV was enough to send you to hell, without passing go, without collecting 200 pesos.

Television is simply a medium just like the radio or the computer.
There is filth in Television, in radio, in magazines, in computers.

How come those preachers never preached against the radio?
How come those preachers never prohibited people from reading all magazines or books? After all there are plenty of bad magazines and bad books.
Where are the preachers preaching against the Internet which is even worse than anything on Television?

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Televison is just another medium, but unlike radio and internet it is much more limited in the options for viewing. Hollywood is pretty much all it is used for. I agree with your logic though, that people should be allowed to decide and manage the use of televison. I am sure that there are people who do have strict discipline of themselves and watch only wholesome things. I just find that it is probably 1 out of 10,000. That being said I would rather a preacher preach it a little harder than not at all.

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From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. Hollywood produces what is in their hearts. Those that murder do so because it is in their hearts to do so. Perhaps the same thing that ails Hollywood is the same thing that ails these others. Perhaps Hollywood only produces that which it has seen and heard from it's father the devil. Perhaps those that murder only do so because what they have seen from their father devil.

One is not the cause or influence of the other. Instead they work together, influencing each other. It's a vicious cycle where the violence in the real world is shown which increases the violence in the real world which increases the violence shown by Hollywood and on and on and on forever.

But those 2 things are not the only things in this negative sphere of influence. The causes are to many to count. Stopping Hollywood will not cure the world but instead will just set the scene for Hollywood 2.0 because everything that caused Hollywood to do what it is doing is still in place.

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Hollywood is a propaganda arm of a foreign power bent on subjugating the people via brainwashing and degradation. It is designed (intentionally) to create a controlled view of reality, in order to control how people think and thus how they behave.

And yes, "the news" is part and parcel of that program.

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Cultural Marxism 101

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:yourock

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All those who were mass shooters were on psychotropic drugs.

Say NO to drugs, and yes to Jesus Christ and the Apostolic Faith. :)

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I went 9 years without a television. It wasn't until we had kids that I decided we'd get a television and strictly monitor programming. To this day, I can't get into regular television or cable television. I lose interest and eventually find myself picking up a book or getting on my cell phone. I've explained that I mean no disrespect, I'm just not that into television. I can't tell you how many movies Christina has put on in the evening and I end up falling asleep or finding something else to do. I don't think I've finished a movie in months. lol

What we use is Amazon Fire Stick. With this we can stream almost anything. We've streamed Mork & Mindy, Full House, Little House On the Prairie, The Waltons, and a number of cartoons we grew up with. I think I don't mind the kids watching these things because I know the content. The newer stuff is just mindless. I've told Christina that I feel like my IQ dropped as a result of watching some of the newer stuff. But over all, television programming is pretty locked down in our home.

My battle right now, is YouTube and video games.

First, I don't like it when my kids watch YouTube. We've monitored content, and it's rather harmless. They watch a lot of DYIs, practical jokes, Parkour, outrageous facts kind of stuff, etc. The strangest thing they watch to me is... YouTube videos of other kids playing video games! I mean, are kids so lazy that they'd rather watch someone else play a video game instead of play it themselves??? My son argues that it is instructional. But it just bothers me. And the other thing that bothers me is that if unsupervised, they will watch these things non-stop all day like mindless drones. Mostly, this happens at grandma's house. But on the weekends, if we don't monitor them, they over do it.

My son likes video games. But he's all into the shoot'em up games. He also had this game called, Grand Theft Auto (I think it was "5"). His biological mother often buys these for him and he brings them over during my visitation week. When I went through his games I had to take out four or five that I thought were inappropriate. I don't think I've ever seen him so upset. LOL But, I told him that these games were not appropriate and that in my home, and that this is just the way it is.

My daughter isn't into violence. She's into DYI's, artsy stuff, and fashion stuff. Honestly, so far, she's no worry in this category.

I thank God that they are still in the phase wherein they think "sexy stuff" is gross. I know that will change. But we've already had some pretty long and detailed talks about our expectations in that area.

Almost everything is saturated with violence.

I feel like what could be said of Noah's generation is true of our own:

Genesis 6:5
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

I honestly feel like America is going to face God's judgment. I'm convinced that we're already seeing corrective judgment. But I don't think our nation is heeding it. I've considered moving to Canada (friends and family there), but things are just as bad, if not worse on the entertainment front. There truly is nowhere to escape to unless one wants to move to some third world country.

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Oh, that's a way better choice. :nah

Please forgive me in advance, but how many times have you sustained a concussion? :)

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I have never believed TV or music has any effect on the viewer/listener. C'mon guys.... I done xy and z because I watched to much Dukes of Hazzard. I had an affair because I watched Dallas and Dynasty ever Thursday night. I pondered suicide because I listened to Metallica scream Enter Sandman. I shot a cat because I played jungle warfare video game. All these are excuses!!!! Excuses made by lazy parents, excuse made by now grown-ups who do not want to face THEMSELVES in the mirror!!! My group of ten to twelve childhood friends watched all these TV shows, went through all phases of music, played hours of MS Pacman and Atari. Not 1 of us even have a misdemeanor!!! Us boys even had the stash of Porn mags and videos. None of us have problems with such things now! Stop trying to find blame in anything except what stares you back in the mirror!!!

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It is not your generation that has done all the killing. All the 70's shows and music you have mentioned may have not led you to mass shootings, but has truly helped shape the way you look at the world. Holly wood has helped shape what is the normal American culture. That American culture is made up of disfunctional children who do not have a solid family structure and when these kids act out they are diagnosed with some psycological problem and fed drugs that doesn't do anything, but make them worse.

Hollywood has been a tool.

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You should realize that movies - particularly American made movies - do indeed have an effect on the brain? And these effects are not due so much to the plotline or particular scenes, but to the camera effects, the tempo of the scene changes, and now the dithering.

Research it, check it out. There's a reason it was MANDATED that everything go to digital...

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Naaaawwwww I call malarkey!!!

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See? The effects are obvious in your response: an inability to think critically and rationally. It is irrational to make a determination on a claim without any investigation or knowledge of the situation.

But that's exactly how you've been programmed to respond.

And that programming isn't just based on TV, its public schooling, modern music, news, and other mass media, etc. The Eloi are here.

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when do we get to start eating them?

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:happydance

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Wrong yet again!! I am almost 50 so..... anyway it don't matter. I will make my point short and sweet. I believe any individual that blames actions on TV, music etc. is admitting that they have no brain cells at all, these are the ones you speak of in your first paragraph. If you cannot watch any TV show or movie and realize it is for entertainment only...............well you have issues!

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You don't understand the point I'm making. Content is next to irrelevant. The technology itself has effects. Like inability to recognize what someone is actually saying.

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:heeheehee

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O yea ok I get it now

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That's hard to believe. :laffatu

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Saying that media has no influence on people make advertisers laugh.

Edward Bernays made his fortune off of media manipulation.

Media has no influence?

Then I guess propaganda is a myth.