Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 

We all know that no one Baptized between the the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the day of Pentecost! We also know that no one was commanded to be baptized in Jesus'name until then..................Please tell me were the Apostles Matthew,John,James Thomas etc baptized in Jesus name and if so by whom? Is there any scripture found in the bible to answer this question.

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John 4:1 Jesus and His disciples baptized in the Jordan.

John 3:22 the writer documents that Jesus and His disciples went into the Judean countryside, with his followers and baptized.

In John 3:26 the Pharisees try to tell John that he was having a church split. That Jesus who was baptized by John went on His own and was baptizing His own neophytes. Therefore the Gospel according to John records that Jesus' apostles baptized early in their ministry.

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EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.

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It is written:

John 4:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

Only the disciples performed baptisms. Jesus didn't water baptize anyone.

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Of course He did.

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I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.

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I agree. The text appears to state that Jesus didn't water baptize. EB appears to be wrong on this one.

Did you know, that EB thought he might be mistaken once, but he was wrong? :lol

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I believe that Jesus did baptize, as the Bible says that the husband an that labors must be first partakers of the fruit. He can’t actively preach something and then don’t partake in that ourselves, as He had to be an example unto them first as to what they should do.

As far as I know, there are two incidents were it talks about Jesus baptizing. One says that Jesus took his disciples to the river, and baptized, another says that Jesus baptized not, but his disciples. Due to that, I think the second scripture is saying that Jesus baptized no one, but his disciples, or that Jesus only baptized his disciples.

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Commas were added later to the document. The previous witness of the writer of John, and the religious Judean leadership has Jesus baptizing His apostles.

Jesus is baptized by John, Jesus then baptizes His 12, and they in turn baptize others.

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the Greek actually reads..."Jesus Himself was not baptizing but the disciples of Him." This is where it can be understood both ways. One that Jesus baptized no one outside His apostles, or that He baptized no one including His apostles. The latter gets a little sketchy, because when Paul meets disciples of John he requires them to be rebaptized in Jesus name. Therefore making us understand that the baptism of John was only the precursor to the final baptism in Jesus name. Jesus has John baptize Him in order to start His ministry. His apostles who some were already baptized by John, others weren't. Therefore to fulfill all righteousness for all 12 they would need to be baptized. Again, we have two witnesses, one the writer of John saying that at some point Jesus did some baptizing, and the other the Judean religious leadership saying Jesus was baptizing. Therefore to understand the quotation in John 4:2 we would have to take into consideration what was said before in John 3.

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Isn't John 4:1-2 a direct reference to events described in John 3:22-26? If so, it means Jesus was not Himself personally baptizing in ch 3, would it not?

Chapter 4
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

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In v 2, is "his disciples" the object of "baptized"? Or is it a subject in the second phrase (making it an ellipsis meaning " but His disciples {did baptize})?

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The word "but" in v 2 is "alla" and means otherwise or contrariwise. This indicates the verse is saying Jesus did not baptize, however (contrariwise, or nevertheless, or otherwise, or howbeit) his disciple (did baptize). The word could be translated "except", but that then creates a problem. The text doesn't have an object for Jesus baptizing " except" xyz.

In other words, we would expect it to say But Jesus did not baptize ANY/ANYONE/PEOPLE except his disciples".

And if that were what was either written, or implied, it becomes a tautology: Jesus did not baptize anyone except His disciples", yet anyone baptised would be counted as a disciple. There is no possibility of baptizing someone and them not being counted a disciple. Disciples aren't a subgroup of those baptized, they are coextensive with all those baptized. See verse 1 which makes that point more clear).

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I am asking is whether the Apostle Peter and the rest of the apostles were baptized in the formula ΅ the name of the Lord Jesus Christ¨. And if so by whom?

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I'm not finding this interpretation in any Bible translation I've looked into. Here are just a handful of the translations I've looked at that I regard as being the most accurate.

John 4:1-2 (ESV)
Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John 2 (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples),

John 4:1-2 (NRSV)
Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard, “Jesus is making and baptizing more disciples than John” 2 —although it was not Jesus himself but his disciples who baptized—

John 4:1-2 (Young's Literal Translation)
When therefore the Lord knew that the Pharisees heard that Jesus more disciples doth make and baptize than John,
2 (though indeed Jesus himself was not baptizing, but his disciples,)

This Jewish translation is interesting...

Yochanan 4:1-2 (Orthodox Jewish Bible)
4 Therefore when Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach knew that the Perushim heard that he makes more talmidim and administers the tevilah of teshuva to more talmidim than Yochanan,
2 Although Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach himself did not personally administer the mikveh mayim’s tevilah—this was administered by his talmidim,

I think you're wrong on this one EB.

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The Apostle Paul was baptized in the name of Jesus, it is written in the Book of Acts. Paul was the apostle to the gentiles so if you are not a jew then you just have to accept the baptism of Paul as enough.

The other apostles ministered to the Jewish converts so their baptism is totally irrelevant to us gentiles.

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Wherefore baptism doth now also save us...

The baptism Simon indicated had saved his audience, also saved him.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism...

Hard to believe Simon experienced a seperate New Covenant baptism than his audience, so as to make for two immersions.

Had Paul been immersed some other way than in the name of the Lord Jesus, would James, John, and Simon have offered him the right hand of fellowship, or would they have led him to a pool and explained his error and performed the baptism correctly?

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Yes there is a sure answer.
It is given by Peter himself.
I Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us"

as you can see, he included himself as being one of the baptized.

Peter commanded others many times to be baptized in the name of the Lord, how else would he had been baptized himself?

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