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Pastor Gino Jennings, Make It Plain.
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"Am I right? You KNOW I'm right!"
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He mentions not changing God's natural appearance but he is clean shaved. Lol
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I don't know this Preacher, but he does tell it plain! :nod
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I agree with him about the makeup and modesty. I just wish there was more clear scripture on it. He mentions jeremiah 4 but that doesn't really show a prohibition against makeup.
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I think that is pretty plain. Listen we are dealing with a culture that has gone way past all of that. Pastor Gino Jennings is correct on the state of the churches. In 10 more years it will only get worse not better. In vain thy make thyself fair. Holiness make up? Hey, guys are painting their fingernails and wearing make up, what next? |
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Not sure about, a prostitute might look better than her. :) |
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Ah... That ol' familiar opening...
"Greetings Brothers, and Sisters, Friends and Enemies." Gotta love it! It was through listening to Jennings and studying the Scripture that I came to the understanding that I Corinthians 11 is about head coverings. |
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Does it really matter if a person wears make up? That is between the individual and God! I have seen some women who never wore makeup,but they were as mean as a famished lioness ! There are some men who say that women should not wear toe and heel out shoes! If a woman ś heels and toes are going to cause a man to become full of lust,he is a sick puppy anyway!
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Jesus warns married men that if they were even to look upon a woman with lust they were in adultery. So, Jesus knew their was a problem. The Bible also states that there is an attire of a harlot Proverb 17:10 Then out came a woman to meet him, dressed like a prostitute and with crafty intent. Doesn't get any plainer than that. 1 Timothy 2:9 Likewise, I want the women to adorn themselves with respectable apparel, with modesty, and with self-control, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, The above is Paul speaking about women in Timothy's congregation. He says he wants them to be dressed in "respectable" attire, which would be the opposite of being dressed like a prostitute. |
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Gino Jennings is quite a gentleman when talking one on one and on a personal level. His most controversial responses are typically in regards to the letters sent to his ministry, which he addresses rather boldly, without pulling any punches.
I like what he said to K Foxx when she asked, "What would be your assessment of me as a woman?", with regards to her makeup, etc. Jennings then said, "My assessment wouldn't be anything. But from a biblical perspective...", and he then launches into Jeremiah 4:30. I like that. He didn't personally insult her. In fact, he was very pleasant. He then moved into Scripture and shared his perspective of what the Bible teaches. |
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Matthew 5:28Of course, I think one would be hard pressed to insist that looking upon a woman to lust after her is prohibited for the married but permitted for the unmarried. To look upon anyone with the desire to use them for one's one selfish gratification of one's carnal lusts is dehumanizing whether one is married or not. |
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Is jeremiah 4:30 really a prohibition against makeup? |
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Sin is transgression of the law. Where in the law does it forbid makeup?
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2 Timothy 3:16 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. The apostles taught that women were not to beautify themselves with outward adorning, but with modesty and humility and good works. 1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. |
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Being Holy as He is Holy. That is the law, and we are to separate ourselves from the paganism around us, the sin that is around us, the crossdressing that is around us. Do we now tell young boys, emo, and goths that make up is only for women? Sad commentary that the church tried to become the world to win the world. Only to be impregnated by the world with mess and remorse. Ephesians 1:4 Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. That admonishment from Paul was a call to separation to not only not act like the world (which was a pagan Greek/Roman Empire), but not look like the world. |
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Ancient peoples of the Near East used power and rouge, red and yellow colors being obtained from ochers, and white from lead carbonate. Both of these materials are known from excavations, and other sources indicate the use of powder puffs in Egypt. One Biblical reference to powder, in the cosmetic sense, is in the Song of Solomon 3:6, wherein the "powders" of a merchant, for cosmetic use, are brought as a gift to the bride to be.
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Ancient people of the near and Middle East were pagans.
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Boy this name is familiar. I think I listened to him on the radio many years ago in LA.
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1) I love to listen to many sides of an issue 2) head cover VS hair cover is debatable |
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Song of Solomon 3:6It is unclear exactly what the powders of the merchant entailed. Seeing that it states "all the powders of the merchant", the one thing we do know is that these merchants were apothecaries. The apothecary was skilled in the creation of perfumes, incense, oils, balms, cosmetics, and even the use of spiced teas and herbal remedies. It would therefore imply that Solomon came bringing all these things as gifts to his bride. It should also be noted that the name of Job’s daughter, as “Horn of Antimony,” or “Keren-happuch” (horn of black eye-paint) in Job 42:14 does not carry a negative or sinful connotation, since in 42:15 this daughter as well as the others is counted as best in the land. It might be that she was named after an ornate cosmetic container (a horn) or that her mother (Job's wife) wore such beautiful eye-paint. Green color was derived from malachite or turquoise, and used to paint the lower eyelids; while black came from manganese (puk) or antimony (kuhl), and was applied to the eyebrows and lashes. Red ocher was used to add lip color. Large numbers of small pottery juglets, usually fired in a reducing atmosphere to produce a lustrous and burnished black finish, also come from the excavations of this period. A cosmetic kit from the Biblical period might contain a polished metal mirror, palette, ivory and metal spatulas, kohl sticks, unguent spoons, tweezers and a variety of containers. In addition to the minerals named above, galena and stibnite also were ground in the palettes. These powders (possible reference, Song of Solomon 3:6) were then mixed with water or gum before application. The powder was likely stored and carried in pouches. The Bible frequently associates eye paint with questionable women, who made excessive use of it (cf. 2 Kings 9:30; Jer 4:30; Ezek 23:40). In addition to beautification, the eye paint probably had some hygienic effect, in discouraging disease-carrying flies. The negative texts mentioning cosmetics (2 Kings 9:30, Jer. 4:30, Eze. 23:40) do not condemn cosmetics specifically. However, they do reveal the seductive nature of those women who use cosmetics to enhance their beauty so that they might entice men into sin. As it relates to Christian women, Paul wrote: 1 Timothy 2:9Shamefacedness is the manner of one's face, or facial expressions, being kept in a state of modesty and humility. It is the opposite of being shameless, arrogant, and beaming with pride. This could very well indicate that cosmetics are to be discouraged, however in Near Eastern ancient culture a properly mannered woman rarely looked a man directly in the eyes. Instead, after immediate eye contact, she would turn her gaze away below his line of sight, expressing submission and respect. This practice is still common in the Middle East today, especially among Muslim women. In these Eastern cultures, to look a man in the eye while talking to him is considered ill mannered, seductive, or disrespectful depending upon circumstance. So, while the Bible is neutral on makeup, it is not neutral on one's attitude and character. We do well not to make up a law where one doesn't exist. So it is hard to argue that makeup is a "sin" in and of itself. However, we can encourage modesty and natural beauty in principle as it relates to being separate from the world. |
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I dare say if we make it to see Jesus face to face he will be displease with all our efforts to keep what we thought was important and did not do his simple instructions. You have no idea how much "heat" I take from other (older) members of the faith. |
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Is there any scripture that show only prostitutes wore makeup and nor the OT saints? "Attire of a harlot" what was the attire? For the record, i believe makeup is not becoming of a woman desiring holiness, I just wish scripture was more clear on the subject. |
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What concerns me personally is that if my faith is built on a number of laws designed by man (no short sleeves, no shorts, no rings, no television, no internet, no beards, etc., etc., etc.),... I end up living, practicing, and even sharing a man made religion. Both hedonism and man made religion appeal to the flesh. They just appeal to those on the opposite ends of the spectrum. But both the hedonist and the religionist are as carnal as carnal can be. Consider this, every false religion has special days, dress codes, dietary codes, rituals, innumerable legalistic requirements, etc., etc., that are required of their followers. The way of the Spirit transcends these carnal frameworks and leads one into aspiring Christlikeness, living by the Spirit, seeking to live by the divine love that abides towards both God and man. If I love my neighbor, will I entice them to sin? Will I dress in a manner that provokes lust? Will I lie to them, harm them, defraud them, steal from them, or degrade them in any way? No. If I love God will I blaspheme, bow to idols, use His name in vain, or knowingly engage in heathen practices? No, of course not. And so the single law of love becomes the mark. Now, that isn't to say that discretion shouldn't be practiced with regards to issues that the Bible is silent or neutral about. This is where spiritual maturity is most essential. |
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Enoch 8:1-4 "And Azazel taught mankind to make swords and knives and shields and coats of mail, and taught them to see what was behind them, and their works of art: bracelets and ornaments, and the use of rouge, and the beautifying of the eye-brows, and the dearest and choicest stones and all coloring substances and the metals of the earth. And there was great wickedness and much fornication, and they sinned, and all their ways were corrupt. Amezarak taught all the conjurers and root-cutters, Armars the loosening of conjurations, Baraq�al the astrologers, Kïkabel the signs, and Temel taught astrology, and Asradel taught the course of the moon. And in the destruction of mankind, they cried aloud, and their voices reached heaven." "Talmud in Tractate Yoma 9b (also in Shabbat 62b) Why was the first Sanctuary destroyed? Because of three [evil] things which prevailed there: idolatry, immorality, bloodshed… Immorality [prevailed] as it is written: “Moreover the Lord said: Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched-forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and make a tinkling with their feet” Isaiah 3:16. ‘Because the daughters of Zion are haughty’, i.e., they used to walk with proud carriage. ‘And wanton eyes’ i.e., they filled their eyes with kohl (a powder used for painting the eyelids). ‘Walking and mincing as they go’, i.e., they used to walk with the heel touching the toe. ‘And make a tinkling with their feet’, R. Isaac said: They would take myrrh and balsam and place it in their shoes and they would walk around the streets of Jerusalem and when they came near the young men of Israel they would kick, causing the balsam to squirt at them and would thus cause the evil desire to enter them like an adder's poison. (Rashi in Tractate Shabbat notes that they were married women and therefore the Talmud talks about their defamation)." Most cultures understood that make up wasn't for the godly, because the lionshare of the scripture rebuked the wearing of it. So, no wishing upon a star, no hoping for hope. The Bible is plain, but sadly people see what they want to see. My lands homosexuals see God advocating homosexuality in the Bible? Crossdressers see Deuteronomy 22:5 as only pertaining to pagan religious worship. Hey, the scriptures are plain, you just need to have people who have no agendas to read and obey. |
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I love this interview. I cannot vouch for Gino's church but I love his attitude. He took the message of modesty to place that would be hostile to it. He handled himself with skill and long suffering. I am being completely honest here: I want to witness with that same peace. One thing he did over and over again was to quote what the Bible said. The young lady on the other side of the table was angry that wearing just a halter and "tights" somehow was asking for a rape. Her want to look "cool" completely over ruled common sense. The Bible has MANY practical messages for us and one of them is that: all people need to be modest and covered up. |
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