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revrandy 06-21-2007 11:41 AM

An Interview with William Branham...interesting..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4tH...elated&search=


I am NOT a Branhamite... but from the threads on here that have been posted some seemed interested... but Branham's Interview may shed some light...it's mostly him talking about him...

Said he recieved visions about people...said when he was 36 a man came to him... Seems to say he saw Jesus in Human Form as God and was given instruction that he would be given a ministry to heal people and see into peoples hearts...

revrandy 06-21-2007 11:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2iQy...elated&search=

Says there is an angel of God standing two foot from him sent by God with the Gift of Healing...

Chicago Service 1947.... interesting..

revrandy 06-21-2007 11:48 AM

Seems to say the angel is Jesus....and speaks to him directly...

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 11:51 AM

Who knows??????????????

M. E. Burr believed it was a demon and he was a shaman? He was at Houston when the halo picture was taken.

mfblume 06-21-2007 11:51 AM

He spoke of the ANGEL OF THE LORD and the Holy Ghost. I believe this was genuine. He later erred in false doctrine, though. I dfo not believe it was a deivl. Otheriwse, the devil's house would have been divided against itself.

revrandy 06-21-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163615)
Who knows??????????????

M. E. Burr believed it was a demon and he was a shaman? He was at Houston when the halo picture was taken.

Bro. Ep.. this video is an actual interview with him... nothing else... don't know if you watched it..

Michael The Disciple 06-21-2007 12:11 PM

Did Branham possess the fruit of the Spirit? Did anyone convict him of sin?

mfblume 06-21-2007 12:13 PM

I know folks who met him personally... Sister Nilah (Mean) Rutledge who traveled with ex-nun Sister Charlotte. She said she never met a man with more love of God than Wm. Branham.

Ferd 06-21-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 163634)
Did Branham possess the fruit of the Spirit? Did anyone convict him of sin?

Is calling yourself Elijah a sin?

Ferd 06-21-2007 12:16 PM

Like Brother E, I wont argue about the mans beginnings but his end was about as far from God as one can get. The fruit of that is with us to this day in the churchs that have elevated his spoken word to the level of scripture.

revrandy 06-21-2007 12:18 PM

I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??

mfblume 06-21-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 163651)
I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??

Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 163618)
Bro. Ep.. this video is an actual interview with him... nothing else... don't know if you watched it..

More times than I have fingers and toes years ago before it was a video. I have seen all three Branham films.

mfblume 06-21-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163675)
More times than I have fingers and toes years ago before it was a video. I have seen all three Branham films.

Bro Epley, do you believe he was genuine when he ministered in word of knowledge (discernment as he called it), and was able to name names?

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163654)
Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.

That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163677)
Bro Epley, do you believe he was genuine when he ministered in word of knowledge (discernment as he called it), and was able to name names?

He missed some I do know that?

There is a question in my mind concerning the prayer cards?

mfblume 06-21-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163680)
That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.

Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163682)
Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.

Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.

CC1 06-21-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 163599)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4tH...elated&search=


I am NOT a Branhamite... but from the threads on here that have been posted some seemed interested... but Branham's Interview may shed some light...it's mostly him talking about him...

Said he recieved visions about people...said when he was 36 a man came to him... Seems to say he saw Jesus in Human Form as God and was given instruction that he would be given a ministry to heal people and see into peoples hearts...

And I thought he was dead!:haloplug

Sister Alvear 06-21-2007 05:37 PM

strange how many people I know got messed up in SS doctrine...

mfblume 06-21-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163927)
Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.

I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163965)
I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His reward follows him and he shall be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."

Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's. At least Branham baptized in Jesus Name and believed Jesus was God.

mfblume 06-21-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163968)
Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's. At least Branham baptized in Jesus Name and believed Jesus was God.

I agree. But he claimed he foretold Branhams' death.

Sister Alvear 06-21-2007 06:04 PM

It is not up to me to say who is saved and who is not saved but I will say he was in gross error. His SS message ruined many homes. He is in the hands of a merciful but just God...so that is where I leave him. I personally went to his meetings several times but I was very young and remember healings and miracles but healings and miracles also happen at Catholic shrines...

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163971)
I agree. But he claimed he foretold Branhams' death.

I doubt that I know lots of guys who claimed that but no one knew it until he died.

Sister Alvear 06-21-2007 06:06 PM

Lots of good men ran after his messages...A lesson for all of us to be careful who we run after...

mfblume 06-21-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 163976)
Lots of good men ran after his messages...A lesson for all of us to be careful who we run after...

AMEN!

Sister Alvear 06-21-2007 06:07 PM

I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

Sister Alvear 06-21-2007 06:09 PM

Sometimes the "in" thing and most "anointed" preacher is dangerous...

mfblume 06-21-2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 163978)
I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

I read that booklet as well. It is FAR OUT! Branham seemed to have a hate for women. He said that a godly woman is precious and better than most anything, but an ungodly woman is not worth the bullet to shoot her with. WHEW!

Steve Epley 06-21-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 163978)
I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael The Disciple 06-21-2007 11:46 PM

Well if fruit incudes our doctrine I would say Branham has as much chance as most Apostolic Preachers. They teach much false doctrine till this day and are praised for it regularly by their followers.

kenod 08-14-2007 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163990)
I read that booklet as well. It is FAR OUT! Branham seemed to have a hate for women. He said that a godly woman is precious and better than most anything, but an ungodly woman is not worth the bullet to shoot her with. WHEW!

When I heard the sermon where William Branham was telling his life story, he said that was how he felt when he was still an unsaved youth. He was very critical of ungodly women, but he said the Lord rebuked him when he began to personally criticise a woman behaving crudely in public. He was able to lead the same woman to the Lord.

Brother Strange 08-14-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 163965)
I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

You are right.

I spoke to brother Reeves many times. I had breakfast with him the last time only a couple of years before he died. We talked about many things dealing with matters of the supernatural since he was also a man of great experience in these things. KR did not doubt his salvation or his honest sincerety though so mistaken in regards to a couple of matters, especially of the SS doctrine.

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Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."
That is also the truth.

However, it was not in regard to the SS doctrine. Gordon Lindsay was dead long before Branham started teaching that horrible doctrine. Lindsay and Branham were best of friends, having been very close associates on the Evangelistic and Missionary fields who together, formed the Voice of Healing. He saw Branham straying from his calling. Lindsay knew that it was only a matter of time before Branham would fall into some error by straying out of his Prophetic calling. If anyone could reach Branham at all, it would have been either Jack Moore or Gordon Lindsay. Jack Moore, a UPCI pastor together with Lindsay attempted to counsel with him. It was then that Branham said that he "wanted to teach."

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Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.
Reminds me of a certain man whom we all love that "wanted to" step over into the office of a Prophet. Before a very large gathering of UPCI preachers prophecied concerning the "rising again to fill his pulpit and to preach again," a preacher dying with cancer, who never lifted his head off his death pillow. Stepping out of one's own calling is dangerous as noted in the case of Uzziah.

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Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."
I never heard this report before, though I am usually up todate on such matters, having known many of the men in those circles in years gone by. It would be interesting to learn the source of this report.

Truly KH was/is a prophet. I do not know if he is still alive or not since I have not had contact with some of these people in quite a few years. But, I would not doubt the story in the least.

It is true, as Elder Epley said, he did not repent of his SS doctrine before his death.

When I got news of his death on Christmas day of 1965, I went into a very mournful state of mind. I wept for many days without ceasing. It seemed that my very soul would come out of me. It would be hard to explain the state that I was in.

I was overseas looking at myself in the mirror trying to shave with tears running down my face. I had been questioning God about his death. One of the few times that I ever heard what I thought was an audible voice spoke to me saying, "My glory I will not give to another." Instantly, I understood. I recalled how so many people adored and worshipped him. Some even baptized in the name of Branham.

From that day forward, my tears dried and I never questioned again.

Timmy 08-14-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 163968)
Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's.

Hey Elder E, here's a shocker: I agree with you 100%! :sshhh

Steve Epley 08-14-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 215238)
Hey Elder E, here's a shocker: I agree with you 100%! :sshhh

Call the law Timmy and I agree.:driving:driving

Branham was a false prophet in his prophecies-teachings though he may have been sincere in his early ministry from in the late 50's he changed after his nervous breakdown. I do think those around him mold him instead of him molding them. Those "Latter Rain" cast offs has propehcied Elijah was coming and he became their Elijah. GL was a thief. He stoled Branham's paper and tent. Branham wouldn't have listen to him. Howver he did preach for Moore in 65 a few months before his death.

Brother Strange 08-14-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 215249)
Call the law Timmy and I agree.:driving:driving

Branham was a false prophet in his prophecies-teachings though he may have been sincere in his early ministry from in the late 50's he changed after his nervous breakdown. I do think those around him mold him instead of him molding them. Those "Latter Rain" cast offs has propehcied Elijah was coming and he became their Elijah. GL was a thief. He stoled Branham's paper and tent. Branham wouldn't have listen to him. Howver he did preach for Moore in 65 a few months before his death.

Did Branham said that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that.

Did Jack Moore ever say that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that either.

That report is not right, though I heard it too. I happened to know the full story from VOH insiders very close to the situation. The same thing that happened to Branham happened to other VOH preachers that ended up with the formation, expansion and the eventual Christ For The Nations world outreach. But, these reports of theft is not right, though misinterpreted by some jealous men who had other agendas.

There is a difference in a "request" and a "theft."

Steve Epley 08-14-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 215279)
Did Branham said that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that.

Did Jack Moore ever say that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that either.

That report is not right, though I heard it too. I happened to know the full story from VOH insiders very close to the situation. The same thing that happened to Branham happened to other VOH preachers that ended up with the formation, expansion and the eventual Christ For The Nations world outreach. But, these reports of theft is not right, though misinterpreted by some jealous men who had other agendas.

There is a difference in a "request" and a "theft."

Yes he said he stoled his paper it's on tape somewhere? Been too many years to recall where. But there were some real bad feelings about the paper and the tent. But it has been many years since I was privy to all this so my memory is somewhat foggy but I do remember Branham saying his tent and paper was stolen and alluded to Linsay. And didn't he take someone's wife also or is my memory faulty?

Brother Strange 08-14-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 215284)
Yes he said he stoled his paper it's on tape somewhere? Been too many years to recall where. But there were some real bad feelings about the paper and the tent. But it has been many years since I was privy to all this so my memory is somewhat foggy but I do remember Branham saying his tent and paper was stolen and alluded to Linsay. And didn't he take someone's wife also or is my memory faulty?

J.C. Bishop took Hoekstra's wife. Neither did Lindsay or Branham take anyone else's wife.

There was some resentment from Branham concerning the "request," but evidently that resentment did not go so far as to break all fellowship...though strained. Branham was a naive business man. That was the purpose of Lindsay. Lindsay was a very astute business man. Branham being such a juvenile in business affairs, refusing to listen to Lindsay ended up in a HUGE hole with the IRS. Branham said that he did not owe the IRS, though Lindsay said that he DID. Brahham decided to go ahead and pay the IRS a little at a time saying that people would say, "where there is smoke there is fire." Had he listened to Lindsay, Branham would not have gotten himself caught in such a crack and squeeze.

But, at least Lindsay was able to salvage a lot though Branham never understood how much he had done for him. Branham could have ended up in a lot worse circumstance.

Lindsay never stole anything. He was a very astute business man who understood the finer points of doing business that the very uneducated, though hard headed Branham never understood....thus the resentment.

It is no disgrace to be uneducated, but when you combine a hard head with an empty one, you have the makings of a misunderstanding. But that misunderstanding was not on the part of Lindsay, a very upright man of the highest integrity.

DividedThigh 08-14-2007 10:28 AM

there is a branhamite church not far from here, that actually uses his tapes on midweek services, the error to me is obviously that anyone would elevate anyones words to scripture, imho, most of the people that i know that are members there are good people caught up in the error, dt:hypercoffee


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