Global Mega Churches Taking Over Local Churches
 

A couple years ago, Hillsong took over a local church which had multiple locations in the PHX metro.

I just found out Christ Life Church, which was founded by Jim Roam, and up until a few months ago was Pastored by Phil Goldsberry, has been taken over by George Morris' Gateway Church.

I was only half joking with a friend that soon all the churches around here will be bought out or taken over by either Hillsong or Gateway.

Is this happening anywhere else?

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:highfive

All I can say is what I see on the YouTube. There are several people that say this in fact is happening.

However I have a friend here at work; he listens to that goofy, head banging music all day long. He claims he is AofG but the music is crazy loud.

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So just curious. How does one church take over another church. Both are non-profits 501 c 3, how does that work?

Did they have a corporate board meeting and elect to go with that fellowship? Did one buy out the assets of the other? How did it work?

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Not sure. Phil Goldsberry is now the "Discipleship Pastor" and his music minister, Chad Haymon, is the new "Campus Pastor."

The Sr Pastor of the Tempe and Scottsdale church is a young guy, Preston Morrison.

What's sad is while CLC didn't adhere to holiness, they still were oneness and believed the new birth. They sold out when Gateway took over. Now their statement of faith is full trinny and their plan of salvation is the sinner's prayer nonsense.

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Instead of being taken over by a megachurch our church just became a megachurch itself. To this point we have only "taken over" one church and it was at their request. It was a church in a neighboring county in a small town. Church ran about 30 people with a nice building that seated around 150. Pastor was elderly and wife had died a few months before and he was struggling. Within a couple of months (before the official launch date of the new church) it was running over 300 folks. We are planting our second church in another neighboring community later this year or beginning of 2019.

I was surprised to hear this about Phil and Christ Life. Phil and I are friends but don't really keep in touch but every few years. He was an asst. pastor at Christ Church here in Nashville and should have been the pastor once Pastor Hardwick retired but had left to pastor Christ Life when Dan Scott came back on staff.

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So Oneness Churches are being taken over by Hillsong?

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They had to let them take over. Because they could buy our church building but the church wouldn't stay with that building. The church would move. That's why compromise is so bad, because you allow the devil in and he wants to take over! He don't want just to fellowship, he wants to take the building, and then take over the body!

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No. The church which "merged" or whatever with Hillsong was not a oneness church.

The church which "merged" or whatever with Gateway Church was founded by Jim Roam and was oneness and new birth, but not holiness the last I visited a couple years ago.

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I liked Goldsberry's message "Life in the Dash."

I was surprised this happened, too. Also surprised that Haymon is the campus Pastor in Tempe. CLC had a location in Casa Grande, but it appears Gateway closed that location and started one in Scottsdale.

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Soul's Harbor in Belleview, FL recently annexed the UPC church in neighboring Dunnellon. Same sort of scenario exactly that you described. You made me do a double-take.

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What's sad is while CLC didn't adhere to holiness, they still were oneness and believed the new birth. They sold out when Gateway took over. Now their statement of faith is full trinny and their plan of salvation is the sinner's prayer nonsense.[/QUOTE]

I guess given her age, Sharon Roam is probably not much of an influence anymore or has been in a while. Regarding their continued belief in the new birth, I'm assuming it was kept on the low as far as still aligning with traditional oneness.

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Does he dress like a woman also?

Good grief

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What Phil Goldsberry or Gateway did is really no one's business but theirs. I know Phil is a God-fearing man and he did what he felt like God spoke to him to do.
News Flash: Not everyone at Gateway is lost. I don't agree with Robert Morris's view of the godhead, but that doesn't mean he's not a Believer. He is a good man who believes in the power of God.
No one has a monopoly on TRUTH. We can all learn. Maybe instead of criticizing these mega church pastors, you should pray for them.

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Sherri, God bless you, good to see you posting. Is everyone at home and church family OK? Wonderful. Listen we are your just imaginary friends, we really don't exist.This isn't the real world anyway, this is an internet forum about religion.

Wow, I don't even know who these people are. I wouldn't know Phil Goldsberry, or Robert Morris if they landed on top of me in the middle of I-95. Who cares what they believe, and guess what?!? THEY DON'T CARE what WE believe about them. They probably and happily don't even know this forum exists. All is well, Jesus is still on the throne! When princesses sing blue birds fly to them. Unicorns come in different colors, and Yakub has a monopoly on TRUTH. He just hasn't told you about it..yet. :)

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EB, you actually made me laugh today.

However, Phil is one of our very best friends, has been for 40 years. I just don’t like to see him trashed on a public forum where people don’t know what they’re talking about.

And yes, all is well in the home front. 😁

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I apologize if you believe Phil was being trashed. However, I stand by my comment that CLC sold out by merging with a trinitarian church which believes the sinner's prayer is good enough to be saved.

If you believe that's trashing, oh well.

And Robert Morris may be a good at branding and acquiring churches to build his Gateway empire, but the dude is lost as lost can be.

I hear the frapps from the church's cafe are really good though.

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I see they keep the main thing the main thing.

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Won't be any trinitarians in Heaven.

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You don't know the difference between lost and saved.

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I know a judgmental spirit when I see one. 😊

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Well, people may not believe this, but that's one of my favorite things in life.


Wow! We are old!! 1960s, 1970s to the glory days of Pennycost in the 80s. Cool. Defend your friend, that is meritable, and nice. Nothing on this forum bothers anyone who isn't a poster on this forum (unless your Steve Pixler) so, your friend Phil is sleeping peacefully. Again, remember we are just your imaginary friends. .

Sis, there are actually only five posters, and one of them posts under multiple nicks. :lol

The lurkers are primarily bots.

Amen in Jesus name. :highfive

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Period. And reserve the Frapps for Starbucks, Jesus doesn't have a coffee shop. Im beginning to believe that's a spirit also, that's how you know if someones infected. When the coffee shop is erected, they've gotten to close to the liberal trinitarians. Im going to mark that one down.

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When we have dinner with the church family we eat barbecue.

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Amen, when you start selling them Barbeque then you have a problem.

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Amen, when you start selling them Barbeque in the church then you have a problem. Jesus got well offended about His Father's house being turned into a flee market, I'm sure He would feel the same about a brewery. But then again it would have to truly be His house for this to even matter. Just because it claims to be on the shingle outside the door means nothing. The condition of the pulpit and the management of this church in question, sound exempt from that being His house any longer.

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How about Peanut Brittle?

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Lol as long as it isnt a store for Peanut Brittle that is open year around, I don't think that's out of the question. But for you to put a Starbucks or a brewery in your church 365 days a year that's crazy. But you are right Apostolics and their Peanut Brittle will never die! I've yet to see them sell it year round though, maybe for a couple of Sunday's.

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I know of brothers who had some killer peanut brittle, and they sold it year round. Krispy Kremes by the boxes.

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Did they open a store in the church?

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No.

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No.

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The people are the church bro, there was a Church at 119th Street in Miami that had a coffee house. Before anyone knew what a Starbucks was.

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I have made things and sold after church to buy Bibles for the Indians, help nacional pastors...but have NEVER done anything for money for me...just for others...I think motive is a big factor.