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Are you for, or against some, all, none?
Are you for them?

Please share your view, and why.


Are the decisions you make on which ones are acceptable, somewhat based on the area you live, and the risks that go with that? (IE: You live in an area where many do not vaccinate at all, like near old order Mennonite groups or what have you...)

It is my understanding regarding live vaccines, if a child, say at 2 months old (please see attached chart) were to receive a (live) vaccine for polio, and they do not take that vaccine, I have to weigh 2 risks:

1) the side effect risk(s) that comes w taking the vaccine(especially live vaccines)

2) if they don’t take it, and are thruout their lifetime ever near someone who has just taken the live vaccine(within 5 days of taking the shot) they could get/catch, whatever that person was vaccinated for. This is called “shedding”, I believe.

We have always avoided live vaccines w my children, but have done whooping cough because the vaccine is not live, and whooping cough can kill, and it has been in our area in the past, some.

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We vaccinated our kids, and no strange side effects so far. They're both twelve (one from a previous).

There are definite risks with not vaccinating. But it's really all about you're comfort level, and feelings as a parent. Whatever your choice, your choices should be respected.

But here are some links to stories about a church that preached against vaccinations. They became ground zero to a measles outbreak. This caused them to change positions on this, and even provide the congregation vaccinations.

https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/21774...asles-outbreak

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/...church-7110747

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3818418

https://www.google.com/amp/religion....not-shots/amp/

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If one were to allow their children to attend a public school, it would be incredibly unsafe to not vaccinate them, but I think it would be unsafe to not vaccinate children anyway. I do not think the vaccines are causing autism.

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They're coming up with more vaccines.

I had about 5 when I was a kid in the 70s.

When I had my first child, the vaccine card had about 10 or 12 on it, and they have to get them every few months their first year. Ridiculous.

I fought against most of them, but allowed a few.

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Well, as time passes there are advancements, new vaccines for new diseases, updated vaccines from what have been deemed ineffective, etc.

I also don't believe vaccines are the cause of autism. It's natural to want to blame something, and some parents might want a settlement out of it. But I think genetics, previous drug use, diet, and essential vitamins and minerals are bigger factors.

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More diseases are mutating.
Because people are NOT getting even routine vaccinations. Babies and children are getting these would-be rare diseases in the U.S because their ignorant parents are walking around with tin-foil hats.

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Get all your shots. Same for your kids.

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Do you have kids?

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It should always be a parent's right to choose. :thumbsup

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And a parents responsibility when their kids die a needless death, or worse, are responsible for a disease outbreak.

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If vaccines keep you from getting sick, how can an unvaccinated person pose any health threat to those who have been vaccinated?

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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Yes, from those who have been vaccinated. If you are vaccinated, you can still be an asymptomatic carrier, which means you can acquire and pass the disease on to others without ever knowing it.

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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The unvaccinated are only a potential threat to the unvaccinated and those with a compromised immune system, and can cause vaccinated kids to be carriers.

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Not like vaccinated children are.

People still get polio in the US - from the vaccine.

The likelihood of an unvaccinated child getting pertussis is pretty much the same as the rate of severe adverse effects from the pertussis vaccine, according to my first son's pediatrician (who got visibly upset when I told her that means my child will get no real benefit from being vaccinated).

Of course, importing hordes of third worlders means importing tons of diseases, outbreaks, etc, that otherwise wouldn't exist here in the US.

Baxter Pharmaceuticals got busted not that long ago trying to add deadly viral pathogenic bioweapons to some 3,000,000 plus doses of flu vaccine. Anybody remember that?

The CDC has been caught lying about almost anything they say, the FDA is a farce, and people still just blindly let these clowns inject their babies with Lord only knows what. I think vaccines cause mental impairment more than anything else.

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The vaccinations themselves compromise the immune system and create asymptomatic carriers.

They also tend to create hardcore democrats and republicans.

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Thank you, Esaias.



Most "outbreaks" are caused by those who have been vaccinated.


Autism is the least of my worries with vaccinations. There are a host of other diseases which can be directly traced to vaccinations.


Also death.


I agree with PO. It should always be the right of the parent to choose whether or not they wish to vaccinate their children. And they should take time to research and learn all they can about the subject.

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Esaias I disagree with you on one thing here. vaccinations introduce something into the body, but democrats are created by the removal of something from the body namely a "spine".:heeheehee

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No they don't.

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Would you say that these big pharmaceutical companies should have more regulation and oversight?

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is this a trick question? :heeheehee

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Not really. These big pharmaceutical companies lobby politicians to relax standards, relinquish oversight, shorten the time for study to ensure that vaccines and medications are safe, and mark up prices all for profit.

If they are poisoning our kids, shouldn't we elect officials that will hold the feet of these corporations to the fire?

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what is everyone's take on flu vaccines?
do you think they are harmful or helpful?

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I really don't know much about them. I have heard they introduce a weak version of a previous flu strain into you to build immunity and it should increase the chances of your ability to fight off the new flu strain. but I dont know if thats the way it works or not... I have never had one to my knowledge unless I was a child and unaware and thanks to God I rarely get sick for any length of time.

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For a while, I got my flu vaccine yearly. Then one year I skipped it. I didn't get the flu, I got pneumonia! The next year, I made sure to get the flu vaccine and got the flu-- was down for a week. Now I get the flu vaccine yearly and I think that as long as I don't miss the yearly vaccine, I won't get sick.

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I haven't had a flu vaccine in years. lol

I know some older folk get them every season.

I remember the last time I did get one (2000?), I was so sick, I thought I was going to die. lol

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Never get the flu vaccine, thankfully have never had the flu. My co-workers always get the vaccine, and almost every one are out several days the next week with the flu.

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How about the vaccine for pre-pubescent girls (and I think even for pre-pubescent boys) that prevent HPV infection?

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List of vaccines recommended by the CDC.
link
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedul...dolescent.html

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So Italy fired all its Vaccine Advisory Board and replaced them with new people. And immediately they discovered that one of the major vaccines, supposed to contain tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis toxoids, inactivated poliomyelitis viral strains 1-2-3, and hepatitis B surface antigen actually contains nothing of the sort. Naturally, the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex is up in arms and whining and crying, but this all raises a serious question:

If the vaccine (which by the way seems to be the main one associated with the unprecedented epidemic spike in childhood autism cases) doesn't contain the antigens it's label says it's for, then what exactly is the purpose of these vaccines?

Here's a clue or two - outrageous increase in autism, and the observable increasing rate of overall stupidity in the general population.

Read your Huxley lately?