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Esaias 01-31-2019 01:13 AM

Democrats want legal infanticide
 
“Moderate” Dem Virginia governor: Our new late-term abortion bill would allow babies to be killed … after they’re born;

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/...d-theyre-born/

Esaias 01-31-2019 01:19 AM

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Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo is pushing a radical pro-abortion bill in her state while claiming to be Catholic.

The bill appears to allow restrictions for late-term abortions, but it adds a broad “health” exception for abortions after viability. The exception would allow women to abort unborn babies up to nine months of pregnancy for basically any “health” reason, including “age, economic, social and emotional factors,” a definition given by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case Doe v. Bolton.

Ajello described protections for unborn babies as “insidiously restrictive, harmful and patriarchal reproductive laws.” Her bill would even repeal the state partial-birth abortion ban and fetal homicide law, which provides justice to pregnant mothers whose unborn babies are killed by abusive partners, drunken drivers or others whose illegal actions cause the death of the unborn baby.
The ACLU, which supports Ajello’s bill, has claimed fetal homicide laws are problematic because they treat “a fetus as a person.”

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/29/...s-up-to-birth/

MawMaw 01-31-2019 02:53 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
These people, imo, are SICK and DEMENTED!!!

Scott Pitta 01-31-2019 07:23 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Water protection "deregulation" increases infanticide. Involuntary infanticide. Some call it miscarriage.

To advance a policy that increases miscarriages nationwide is as bad as advancing abortion.

Democrats have abortion. Republicans kill the unborn via "deregulation"

Neither are innocent.

aegsm76 01-31-2019 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557581)
Water protection "deregulation" increases infanticide. Involuntary infanticide. Some call it miscarriage.

To advance a policy that increases miscarriages nationwide is as bad as advancing abortion.

Democrats have abortion. Republicans kill the unborn via "deregulation"

Neither are innocent.

SP - can you provide some links to prove your assertion?

n david 01-31-2019 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557581)
Water protection "deregulation" increases infanticide. Involuntary infanticide. Some call it miscarriage.

To advance a policy that increases miscarriages nationwide is as bad as advancing abortion.

Democrats have abortion. Republicans kill the unborn via "deregulation"

Neither are innocent.

Gimme a break. One is not like the other, has no relation to the other. #StopIt

n david 01-31-2019 10:24 AM

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Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, and Vermont -- all these states (and Washington D.C.) have no limits and allow infanticide.

The VA bill is reportedly not moving forward after the backlash yesterday.

Scott Pitta 01-31-2019 11:05 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Miscarriages are involuntary. Involuntary nationwide. This includes believing pregnant women. Death via GOP deregulation is the fate of the unborn.

There are no distinctly Christian political parties.

Esaias 01-31-2019 12:21 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557587)
Miscarriages are involuntary. Involuntary nationwide. This includes believing pregnant women. Death via GOP deregulation is the fate of the unborn.

There are no distinctly Christian political parties.

So, do you oppose or support legalized abortion up to full term, or even after live delivery, as the democrats do?

Scott Pitta 01-31-2019 12:52 PM

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Nope.

n david 01-31-2019 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557587)
Miscarriages are involuntary. Involuntary nationwide. This includes believing pregnant women.

Involuntary being the key word. Involuntary. Again, there's no comparison between the VOLUNTARY murder of the unborn and miscarriages.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557587)
Death via GOP deregulation is the fate of the unborn.

Prove that deregulation causes miscarriages. I'd like to see the data.

n david 01-31-2019 01:06 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1557588)
So, do you oppose or support legalized abortion up to full term, or even after live delivery, as the democrats do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557589)
Nope.

:hmmm

Apostolic1ness 01-31-2019 01:18 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1557590)
Involuntary being the key word. Involuntary. Again, there's no comparison between the VOLUNTARY murder of the unborn and miscarriages.



Prove that deregulation causes miscarriages. I'd like to see the data.

:beatdeadhorse

aegsm76 01-31-2019 01:56 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557587)
Miscarriages are involuntary. Involuntary nationwide. This includes believing pregnant women. Death via GOP deregulation is the fate of the unborn.

There are no distinctly Christian political parties.

SP - still waiting for some links.
While I would agree that there are no Christian political parties, there is one that is distinctly anti-Christian.
And that would be the Democrats.
They have become the party that is against anything that is Christian or is in the Bible.
Now, about those links for your assertions...

Esaias 01-31-2019 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557589)
Nope.

Can you be any more evasive? The question had two options: support? Or oppose?

Do you support the democrat agenda of legalized abortion at full term, as New York and Virginia apparently do?

Esaias 01-31-2019 03:17 PM

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Me: Democrats are killing babies!

You: Republicans gave us bad water!

Really?

diakonos 01-31-2019 03:37 PM

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Is anyone here really surprised by his response?

Scott Pitta 01-31-2019 04:43 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Being politically neutral, I consider them equal but different. Corruption comes in different ways. DNC corruption is as repulsive as GOP corruption. Both have positions believers should reject.

Believers have no obligation to the GOP.

diakonos 01-31-2019 06:19 PM

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Still not answering the question.

Scott Pitta 01-31-2019 07:18 PM

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I do not support late term abortions. They are as immoral as deaths to soldiers in voluntary wars. Abortion stops a beating heart like polluted water murders the unborn.

If the GOP murders the unborn, some believers look the other way, due to supposed political affinity. If the unborn are killed due to DNC policy, some believers should it from the mountaintops.

Morality censured by politics is not Christian at all.

Esaias 02-01-2019 07:21 PM

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So now the Virginia governor - who recently publicly advocated conspiracy to commit murder and infanticide - has a problem. A photo from the 80s has surfaced from his 1984 yearbook, a photo of a white guy in blackface and another guy in full Klan regalia, having a beer together for the camera. The outrage is palpable, calls for him to resign, even Kamala "the Ugandan Giant" Harris has called him out.

He publicly apologized, but of course hasn't resigned. Isn't it funny all the nationwide outrage over a 30 odd year old joke of a photo, but not over his insane statements that after birth abortion (aka infanticide, or MURDER OF INFANTS) should be legal.

Kind of like all the outrage over bad city water but none about full term or post-birth abortion expressed by a resident poster here on this thread...

Scott Pitta 02-01-2019 08:16 PM

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When believers are dismissive of the KKK, they discount their testimony to the world.

Esaias 02-01-2019 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557640)
When believers are dismissive of the KKK, they discount their testimony to the world.

When a person is more outraged by a yearbook photo of drunken frat boys in blackface and Klan robes than they are of a governor (who is also a pediatrician) calling for legalising the outright murder of newborn infants, they prove they are under the control of Satan.

Esaias 02-01-2019 08:30 PM

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It has also come to light that Governor Moloch had received around $3,000,000 in campaign contributions from Planned Parenthood. You know, the same Planned Parenthood caught illegally selling baby body parts? The one founded by Margaret Sanger for the express purpose of culling the black population so there wouldn't be too many of them? Yes, THAT Planned Parenthood.

jediwill83 02-02-2019 04:39 PM

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Scott,


You think this is about party politics? This is good vs evil. This isnt a Republican vs Democrat thing...this is a Jesus vs Ba'al & Moloch and whoever else is for this nonsense. Lets stop clouding the water distracting from the true issue.

Our nation on the whole has WAAAY too much blood on its hands...our blood...our childrens blood...the blood of our unborn...the blood of the poor, widow, orphans and strangers. HOWEVER it has been spilled and by WHOMEVER has done the spilling.

Far too much innocent blood shed and far too little of His blood applied due to lack of repentance.

Cry aloud. Spare not.


There are atheists on twitter that put believers to shame over how loud their voice is against evil and they dont even have the HolyGhost.


You know what they dont care about?


Vain geneologies of denominations.


They dont care who preached what or where.


They are wondering why people who claim to have a real relationship with a loving God are caught up and distracted by some silliness.


Man if atheists who dont even believe in a all powerful supreme being or an afterlife have enough guys speaking out....and these guys are doing this under the assumption that they have 1 life....this one and they are worm food.



We claim that we are indwelt by the literal Spirit whose voice spoke worlds into existence and that Spirit is crying out......what?



What exactly is the interest of this Spirit thats inside of us. What is HE interested in?


Who is who?


Ever think that the comment by Jesus that if we held our peace even the rocks will cry out in our place was literal?


Wonder who is crying out in our place?


Whose crying out against the evil?

diakonos 02-02-2019 06:58 PM

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No, literal rocks will not cry out. Posting on Twitter will not accomplish much.

Scott Pitta 02-03-2019 01:42 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
No political party can claim moral superiority. They are all corrupt in different ways.

To say a party is the right one because it is not corrupt in ways the other parties are not is disingenuous.

There is no distinct Christian political party in our nation.

Esaias 02-03-2019 04:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557702)
No political party can claim moral superiority. They are all corrupt in different ways.

To say a party is the right one because it is not corrupt in ways the other parties are not is disingenuous.

There is no distinct Christian political party in our nation.

Who said a party is the right one because it is not corrupt in ways the other parties are? Who claimed any party isn't corrupt in one way or the other?

There are, however, "distinctly Christian parties" in American politics, but they aren't one of the Big Two so they get no coverage.

jediwill83 02-03-2019 04:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1557683)

No, literal rocks will not cry out. Posting on Twitter will not accomplish much.


They arent just posting on twitter. I was using "rocks" as a metaphor....as in something unexpected from a unexpected source. Yes people CAN do good on social media provided that they stimulate thought and discussion that changes minds. Does not even scripture say we are to persuade men?


The problem is that we get butthurt and lose sight of the true goal which is waking people up to different thinking other than what society presents and indoctrinates with.


People are changing their minds all the time.


My point being is that unempowered non spirit filled atheists seem to have better arguments against evil and are making more of a difference in changing minds when compared to us "religious" folks.


I dont think anyone thought I was saying that there are literal rocks in my driveway that are gonna start speaking cause some people hold their peace....but then again you knew that so why did you even make that strawman argument bro?


So is it my message you disagree with?


Is it the method or is it me you have problems with?

diakonos 02-03-2019 08:42 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1557662)
Ever think that the comment by Jesus that if we held our peace even the rocks will cry out in our place was literal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1557683)

No, literal rocks will not cry out. Posting on Twitter will not accomplish much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1557713)
They arent just posting on twitter. I was using "rocks" as a metaphor...

I dont think anyone thought I was saying that there are literal rocks in my driveway that are gonna start speaking cause some people hold their peace....but then again you knew that so why did you even make that strawman argument bro?


So is it my message you disagree with?


Is it the method or is it me you have problems with?


Yes, some metaphor. I’m sure that I’m the only person who didn’t get it.

That you made it personal and asked such questions, well, I guess we’re done here.

aegsm76 02-04-2019 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1557702)
No political party can claim moral superiority. They are all corrupt in different ways.

To say a party is the right one because it is not corrupt in ways the other parties are not is disingenuous.

There is no distinct Christian political party in our nation.

There is one party who endorses abortion, wants to make all of society accept/ endorse the entire LGBTQXYZ community and who booed God at their convention.
And by the way you still have not provided evidence of your original assertion on this thread.

Esaias 02-10-2019 07:03 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
NYC accused man accused of stabbing pregnant girlfriend gets a pass on baby’s murder because of new abortion law

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/nyc...w-abortion-law

diakonos 02-10-2019 07:58 PM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1557993)
NYC accused man accused of stabbing pregnant girlfriend gets a pass on baby’s murder because of new abortion law

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/nyc...w-abortion-law

Correct. Not charged with abortion. He is being charged with murder.

Esaias 02-10-2019 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1557996)
Correct. Not charged with abortion. He is being charged with murder.

So the article is misleading? Seemed like it was saying because of new abortion law he was not being charged with murder?

Esaias 02-10-2019 08:33 PM

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From the article:

"Queens District Attorney Richard Brown recently charged Anthony Hobson with murder for allegedly killing Jennifer Irigoyen on Feb. 3 — but said he couldn’t bring charges over her unborn child’s death due to a recent change in abortion law."

diakonos 02-10-2019 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1557998)
So the article is misleading? Seemed like it was saying because of new abortion law he was not being charged with murder?

Yes. I’ll look for another source tomorrow.

Scott Pitta 02-11-2019 05:48 AM

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God's party poisons the unborn fetus, and once they are born, they are poisoned every time they take a drink of water.

Deregulation stops a beating heart.

n david 02-11-2019 08:47 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1558001)
God's party poisons the unborn fetus, and once they are born, they are poisoned every time they take a drink of water.

Deregulation stops a beating heart.

Post the source and evidence of your claim!

This is the seventh request.

aegsm76 02-11-2019 08:52 AM

Re: Democrats want legal infanticide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1558001)
God's party poisons the unborn fetus, and once they are born, they are poisoned every time they take a drink of water.

Deregulation stops a beating heart.

SP - if you really believe this and are not just trolling us, you have been blinded and there is not further discussion needed.
Because it would not do any good.
You have been led willingly to a conclusion which makes you feel better about the Dems support of abortion.
May God help you.

Scott Pitta 02-12-2019 05:45 PM

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Both parties support policies that stop beating hearts.


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