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Hello,

I may have been seen elsewhere on the forum.—As what I just said is irrelevant to my new thread, I’d like to know more about what some Apostolics refer to as the “Old Paths?” Any help here?

Blessings to all!

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He used to post here, long ago. :)

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Don't want to be speaking for Mr Miller, yet,I don't think he was referring to the poster Old Paths, but what is referred to as old paths in the Apostolic movement.

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A.J. what do you believe old paths to mean?

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:thumbsup

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Hold on....getting my popcorn that I bought duty free off that Bahamas cruise.






All better. Please proceed.

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Old paths. Like singing out of a hymnal and no lights or smoke ? Sounds good to me.

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So no singing off a screen in the front? Some of those old hymnal songs are............ :foottap

No lights and smoke go for me too.

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I also like adult Sunday School. Sitting round the table and interacting with others as we listen and discuss the Scriptures is the best feature of our small church.

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Yeah. Dialogue is amazing in those settings.

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You’ve spoken for me correctly. :thumbsup

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I’ve had ministers come to my church speak of the “Old Paths,” and I’ve come to understand it as the old practices and expressions of church life back in Pentecost. Kinda like an emphasis on prayer, the simplicity of the worship service, expecting God to perform miracles, and so on.

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Yeah I guess that’s one of the big contentions people have when mentioning the “Old Paths.” My local church isn’t involved with any of that; we mainly sing hymns, Gospel worship music is played in the service, we have tithe and offering, then we hear the Word preached with an altar call afterward.

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I think this is one thing that is not fulfilled in my local church setting. As someone who loves being taught more of God, and teaching others more of God, my church life kinda feels empty without this very important ministry.

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I’ve never experience dialogue like that, and kinda yearn for it be quite frank. I go to a Bible college, but the dialogue here is a little disappointing and not as diverse as I’d want it to be.

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We had plenty of dialogue in Bible college.

Our class has different age students from a variety of backgrounds. It flavors the discussions.

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Well you gotta ask yourself....what old paths? How old are they and where did they originate?


Bro Billy Cole once said,"Some might say...well I got the HolyGhost down at the altar.....well you got it the Methodist way."


The point he wss making is that going to the "alter" as we know it began commonly in the Methodist movement which was a far cry from what it is today.


Let me just say this from the onset. God is real and God is good.


It can be a bit disconcerting however when you start the research history of standards and traditions...the enemy may try and harm your faith, in fact...you can be sure of it.


The questions you have come from a desire to know God and what you will also discover is that the answers you will find will reveal much about men and the nature of man.


You will read and hear information, facts and arguments and sometimes you will feel betrayed as if the information has been hidden from you but thats not always the case.


I started out extremely conservative and the more I discovered I became more liberal.


What I discovered is that conservative/liberal is two sides of the same coin of phariseeism.


I then sought God with my whole heart without agenda and with much fear...a Godly fear and now I follow things that would probably make both sides uncomfortable but are born out of using scripture in context.


We have good people here and we also have some snakes and even the good ones of us here can get a lil trollish and out of line because some of the discussions can just get plain stupid.


Take what you read here with a grain of salt. Dig in the Word to verify what you see and pray brother pray.


Truth more closely examined does not become any less of a measure of Truth.


Meaning dont be afraid to push back and test some things.


Paul called the Bereans noble for a reason....

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Jedi! Very good

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To some, no beards, no trimming hair for women. "Shouting" type services only.

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According to the Bible, the "old paths" are the ways prescribed by God in His Law-Word:

Jeremiah ch 6:

8 Be thou instructed, O Jerusalem, lest my soul depart from thee; lest I make thee desolate, a land not inhabited.
9 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall throughly glean the remnant of Israel as a vine: turn back thine hand as a grapegatherer into the baskets.
10 To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear? behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the LORD is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.
11 Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.
12 And their houses shall be turned unto others, with their fields and wives together: for I will stretch out my hand upon the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD.
13 For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them.
19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.

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The Methodists had what was known as "The Penitent Form" or "Mourner's Bench", which was usually a front row pew or some planks set on blocks. The preacher would exhort those who wanted to be prayed for to come forward, the workers and saints would gather around, and begin praying for them that faith would arise. The goal was for the mourner (person under conviction) to eventually get faith, surrender to the Lord, and "come through shoutin" with a testimony of victory.

Charles Finney in the 1830s developed a variation called the Anxious Seat, a chair, series of chairs, or front row pew set up for those "anxious about the condition of their souls". The anxious would be asked about why they were anxious, asked about their spiritual state, exhorted to exercise faith, were given some basic Biblical corrections to errors they might be holding on to, exhorted to repent of all errors and sins, and then told to pray, while others prayed for them to exercise faith and be saved, sanctified, or whatever the need was.

These methods were further developed on the frontier as an evangelistic "point of decision", especially among Holiness groups. Holiness groups that became Pentecostal carried on the tradition. Also, baptists and evangelicals also borrowed the method, and it has spread to most Protestant circles except mainline churches like the Lutherans, Presbyterians, etc.

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Trimming hair, the Greek means to GROW. The Spanish version say to grow hair. Good thing we speak the heavily descriptive language of English, because we have the word long. Long has to be compared to something to be a understood. So, you are bald, so long hair for a female in comparison to you is a crew cut?
Rage on Mike, rage on. :lol

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I appreciate these comments. I don't know how old you are, but you sound like someone who has lived a few years, had a few rough edges knocked off, and in the process, acquired a measure of humility and intellectual honesty.

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Humility and theology go hand in hand.

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If the word means GROW then its a SHAME for a mans hair to GROW. Why are you letting your hair GROW? One would need to shave themselves bald DAILY in your version.:heeheehee

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Lol@tired of traditions

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Salute the anthem Diaknos! Dont resist! You're quenching the spirit! Lol jk

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Hey listen here diagnosis. He wants to know what the Old Paths are. Well listen to this song until you speak it in your sleep, and then you will know.

I diagnose this as the Anthem!

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Those who pride themselves on customs and traditions of their elders that are NOT the Word of God, but which are substituted in place of God's laws, are not in the Old Paths, and will suffer evil at the hand of God, sooner or later.

And casting my eye across the panorama of destruction wasting both society and the church, it's looking like sooner rather than later.

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Yep.

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Keep looking and ye will find.

Tendency to see certain things is when we travel about.
Visting a large group of different churches you will find what you are looking for. From mild to wild.

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Come back and visit our church it happens ever so often.

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Church I grew up in had a big not so gentle giant 6'11 guy built like a Hulk run the aisles and miss a turn after making several laps and then he took out a set of our brand new heavy wooden doors...like right off the hinges....simultaneously to that...my pastor who was doing a spin around really fast thing with his eyes clamped shut just so happened to open his eyes right as Bro. HULK made contact...I caught his expression...priceless...service before that some lady was SWKEC shouting while keeping eyes closed...doing some sort of head bang maneuver...put a big Holy Magic Hair sized crater in the drywall.


Eyes open people.


Had another guy running the aisles...eyes closed again...pastors wife had wandered into the oncoming path with her eyes closed as well...he opened his eyes a second before collision and literally vaulted over the corner section.

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