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the book of Mathew chapter one gives a chapter long Chronology from Abraham to Christ. It states that there is 14 generations from Abraham unto David, 14 generations from David to the carrying away to Babylon, and 14 generations from the carrying away to Babylon to Christ. a generation seems to consistantly be 40years in the Bible. (14 x generations) 14 x 40=560years. There is 560 years from the babylonian captivity until Christ.

Daniel said the number of years of the captivity would be 70years and then he said that their would be 70 weeks following the decree of Cyrus to the Messiah.

70years + 70 weeks
70 years +490years =560yrs

Mathew and Daniel matchup very well. I know that it gets confusing dealing with exact dates in scriptures because our calendars are not the same, but for a general view this seemed to be good.

I just don't understand how people subtract the 70th week and place it in the 21st century when it fits so well right were it is at.

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It began with dispensationalism in the 1800s, as a prop to support political Zionism.

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Here is where it all started from Don Isaac Abravanel to Rabbi Tovia Singer.

Getting everyone ready for their antichrist.

Believe me, many Hebrew Rootists and Yah wayists have rolled out the carpet for this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tta3mqZyb3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8grxuBn1jM

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If the 70th week was fulfilled in the 1st century would it abolish a future end time scenario?

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It would abolish most of the tomfoolery masquerading as "end time scenarios" being promoted by political propagandists pretending to be prophecy pundits.

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Try watching this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptoH14R_x7s

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In the broader scope of things this seems to be a minor threat in our time. I hear constantly about the evil Jews, here and elsewhere. While I certainly disagree with the guy in the video, his approach is similar to our own.

When the Messiah comes he will defeat the nations and rule them with an iron rod.

His sin is in refusing Yeshua as the Messiah. Yes it is antichrist doctrine. One strand of it. On a world wide basis Judaism is nowhere near the terror to Christians as the Communists and Islamics who have killed millions of believers in Yeshua.

I cant think right off hand IN OUR DAY where the Jewish faith has beheaded or put to death Christians at all.

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You must not have studied the facts on Communism. Nor on who funds and manages "Islamic terrorism".

BTW, I was not aware that Muslims have killed millions of believers in Yeshua? At least not since the middle ages, when Islamic armies were stampeding across much of Europe, fighting against armies raised by the Popes (the guys who claimed to be God-On-Earth)?

Dear brother, I do think you are in the dark regarding history, and therefore are not able to put yourself and the present condition into proper perspective.

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But perhaps you, or anyone, could present the case from Scripture that the 70th week of Daniel is to be separated from the other 69 weeks, by a gap of some two thousand years or so? When did the 69 weeks end, and why, and why should anyone think the 70th never started? And why did nobody recognize that key piece of information until Scofield was selling his book, financed by non Christian Zionist Jews?

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Can you present where the Jewish faith has beheaded or killed any Christians in our time? Or anyone in the last 1800 years?

I can present facts all day that the Communists and Muslims have and it continues to this day. And YET almost all we hear about both here and other places on the net is how horrible the Jews are.

As a matter of fact I consistently got A's in history in school. It was my favorite subject. Now since the coming of the Internet where apparently much more truth has come to light I'm sure I could still learn much more about it.

Problem is that long ago I decided to put my free time into studying the Bible. Other interests have been put to the side for the most part.

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The case I make in my end time belief is that the 70th week of Daniel would not affect those things I teach about end times.

Nonetheless both the Partial Preterist and Historist systems contain "gaps" in their time frames.

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The similarities in the book of Daniel to the book of Revelation cause us to believe they were written about one singular event. Daniel's prophecys where specifically made concerning Jews up to the time of Christ and shortly after. It was a book to warn Jews of what was ahead. Although, technology and knowledge seems progressive and linear, History seems circular. In other words history repeats itself. I do believe that there will be strong similarities in the way God deals with the nations that are mentioned in the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation. I do expect an anti christ and other endtime scenario's to play out, but I just don't think will play out as the masses are predicting them.

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I don't blame the Jews of being the scourge of the Earth, nor do I blame muslims of behing jihad extremists. We have got bad apples in every bunch. I do believe that modern Jews today have part in the endtime. Although, the Jewish people aren't beheading and killing people. I do believe they are very involved in globalization and manipulating through wealth. It is greed that motivates people on this earth and who ever controls the wealth controls the people. I think that is where Jews today fit in. The Harlot (mystery babyon) that is seated on the back of the beast seems to have lots of similarities to Israel. She has gone to bed with all the nations around her for gain. The Jewish nation is not alone in it, even Christian nations are so caught up in the almighty dollar that they now serve mammon.

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The Communist Revolution in Russia was hailed as a triumph of Judaism. The leaders of the Bolsheviks were Jews. The top positions at just about every level in the Party were occupied by Jews. These were facts well known and widely publicized in the period from 1917-1939. Publicized by both gentiles and Jews, newspapers, US government reports, Jewish organizations, etc. After WW2 it all suddenly was verboten to speak of the connection. Solzhenitsyn wrote about it, however, effectively getting himself banned in the so called Free World. The Communist Revolution in China, likewise. Communism was and still largely is a creature of Jewish origin and control. Karl Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Trotsky was a Jew, Beria was a Jew. On and on it goes.

"Oh, but the Communists persecuted Jews in Russia!" Yeah, so? Jews get persecuted in modern Israel, BY JEWS. They present a united front to the world, but the reality is global Judaism is divided up into sects, some of whom literally have no problem killing the others if it is perceived as "good for Jews overall".

You got A's in public school history class because your teachers were managed by the National Education Agency (NEA), which was and is a subversive Communist front organization (based on their OWN PUBLIC STATEMENTS over the years). You did not learn real, actual history, nobody in public school does.

Jihadi Islam is almost entirely funded and recruited out of Saudi Arabia and the Wahabbi sect(s) of Islam. ISIS, AlQaeda, Daesh, etc, are all Saudi backed terrorist groups. The Royal House of Saud are converted Jews (Saudi is run by what used to be called crypto Jews, much like Spain used to be). The modern state of Israel has been caught REPEATEDLY assisting ISIS in Syria. The entire mess that is the middle east is the direct consequence of destabilization policies of the US and Israel, designed to strengthen Israel's position and provide ongoing excuses for US military involvement in constantly keeping Israel's perceived enemies divided and under threat. The Arab radical terrorist movement was essentially created by TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), a British asset whose job was to create "flying columns" of Arab guerrillas to harass the Ottoman Turks during WW1. The British government has been in partnership with powerful Jewish families since the 1700s when the House of Rothschild was invited to London to take over Crown finances from the Scot banking families previously given that privilege. Oh, and the chief financier of the American side during the War of Independence? Why, that would be Chaim Salomon. What a cohencidence.

The current mass immigration of mostly Muslim military aged males into Europe (resulting in social disorder, collapse of rule of law in many areas, establishing of Muslim enclaves governed by Sharia law, massive increase in rapes, child kidnappings and pedophilia, violent assaults, and even a few "terror attacks"), has been PUBLICLY ADMITTED by Jews to be a Jewish programme to "fundamentally transform" Europe and keep the European nations destabilized and focused on their newfound Muslim invasion problem.

During the Crusades Jews and Muslims routinely cooperated in the attacks and massacres of Christians in the middle east. There is definite evidence Islam itself was a creation of certain Jewish groups designed specifically to serve as a bludgeon against Christendom, to keep the Christians fighting against a bogeyman, and originally supported by Vatican money and other assistance (because the papacy saw it as a means to scare Europe into submitting to papal hegemony). And who was running the papacy, by the way? The papacy has largely been run, for CENTURIES, by the so called "Black Nobility", Italian and Spanish aristocratic families who trace their ancestry TO HEROD.

Now, I've presented you with claims about Communism and Islam, their origins, etc. Go do some research and find out for yourself. Might reshape your views on what's actually going on in the world.

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Lenin was of Jew origin but according to Wikipedia (notice the quote is full of cites), it doesn't seem that the second generation Jewish mother had much influence on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin:

And then this

Lenin radicalization seems to have started at the University. There were some political ideology wings in Europe at the time. Young people were getting caught in it. It think it is just the work of the devil to oppress humans world wide. Nothing to do with specific ethnicities.
The same thing is happening in here the USA, but with different ideologies. It is just the humanism, trying to change human hearts by force according to their own definition of righteousness.

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Who was running the radicalization of the universities in Europe? Why were practically the entire leadership of the Communist Movement in both Russia and throughout Europe overly stocked with Jews? The Jewish role in Bolshevism was described by Winston Churchill and others, including Jews themselves. One of the first things the Communists did was make "antisemitism" a crime. This was essentially the first time a nation had done so.

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But getting back to the 70th Week, I see brother Michael has opted out of demonstrating why it should be severed from the other 69 Weeks. Perhaps someone else would like to do so?

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Quote where I said it should be severed from the other weeks please?

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When did you show us the above?

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It isn't about being beheaded Mike.

It is about you and what you teach becoming irrelevant.

You are a Christian who likes to Yah it up, and Yeshua your way across the Internet. That's what Anti-missionary Rabbis like. They like guys who prattle about with Hebrew names while they read an English translation of a Greek Only Text. So, no beheadings. They just want to debate you in front of an audience. They want to make a world were there is no Christianity, just Rabbinical Judaism. Not through bloodshed, but through discussion, preferably a discussion peppered with a lot of Hebrew.

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Your question to Good Samaritan implied you believe the 70th week is still future. If not, then don't worry about it. :thumbsup

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Then why did you post this video about Jews beheading all other religions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8grxuBn1jM

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Did you watch the entire video? Also the I didn't post it for the guy's end time mash up. But mainly for the Rabbinics who gave their own testimonies. Also Noahide source pages concerning the UN. Yet, you did read MY explanation concerning beheadings.

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Yes I watched the whole thing. Thats why I mentioned beheadings. Since you posted it I assumed you thought it was valid. It made it seem like you were trying to get the message out how wicked Judaism would be the antichrist and would be beheading us.

Your main message seems to be that if one calls the Lord "Yeshua" he will automatically fall away into Judaism.

Seems to me like Christians are having a far worse persecution by Communists and Islam than Jews. No one can find any modern day record of the Jews martyring a disiple of Yeshua.

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Communism is Jewish, the genocide conducted by Communists in early 20th century Europe was conducted largely by Jews running the Party, NKVD, secret police forces, the GULAG system, camp commanders, etc. Therefore, the persecution of Christians by Communists = the persecution of Christians by Jews, or by those "stirred up" by them. Extremist Muslims are run by Israeli, US, and UK intelligence agencies, or by those agencies' proxies (Pakistani ISI, etc).

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Doesn't sound like it.

In what context?

Mike, when we assume things about you, you get upset. Instead of you changing your own behavior concerning assumptions. Assuming isn't entirely a bad thing, because we all draw conclusions. But, through drawing a conclusion, we can ask questions. My focus is showing how the Rabbis and Anti missionary Jews not only want to pull who they call Jews out of Christianity, but get who they call Gentiles out of Christianity. While you go Yeshua on us, you unknowingly plant the seeds for them to uproot those who you may influence. Teaching them that they should call God YAH, and His name Yahsua, or Yeshua, or whatever other word jumble pops into the head of the would be Hebraist. You see a Jewish religion within Christianity. In the mind of the Hebrew Rootist the Judeans looked like Bedouins. But all spoke and acted like Reb Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof. That is a mere stereotype. But in the mind of a Hebrew Rootist it is real Bible. The modern Jewish Rabbinical in black hat, beard, and coat is copied with their music. I remember the first Charismatic church I ever walked into, was playing a song that sounded like it was Hasidic. I thought I was in Brooklyn. This was in a cow town in rural South Florida. Again, a mixture of MGM Moses with Chabad Hasidim from Canarsie Brooklyn. People who live in parts of the United States which have really no huge population of Orthodox Jews are clueless to Judaism. They actually believe that everything that comes out of the Rabbi's mouth is literally Biblically correct. Hebrew roots and Dispensationalism is geared to bring a Christain to Rabbinical Judaism. Look, you believe and were taught that a physical people or race is God's chosen people or race. You therefore assimilate towards everything that is Jewish (not Biblical Judean) but modern Eastern European Judaism. The first thing you learn to do is say mispronounce in Kentuckian Hebrew words Yeshua, Shalom, and Yourway. :lol The Rabbi laughs, and opens his arms and sucks you right in. Yes, yes, you did say that their religion of Judaism is wrong, but you still use Hebrewisms. Because in the mind of a Hebrew Rootist that shows that you are the correct way. While the Rabbi points out continually that the collection of books and letters which we call the New Testament are Greek. The minute you claim that some were written in Hebrew, he again laughs. Mary wasn't a virgin in Hebrew. She is one in Greek, but not in Hebrew.


So, through passive aggression you ran with it?

You add wicked Jews, when the author of the video strongly states he isn't being anti semitic. But in the mind of a Hebrew rootist anything strong against Rabbinical Judaism surprisingly is thought of as anti semitic. Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Pointing out the roots of Jewish bolshevism anti semitic. Because some were taught that if you bless the physical people you will be blessed, if you curse them you are then cursed Pretty good mechanism to plant into ones religion, if you are in the other religion. The other religion which calls your messiah the false messiah.


My main message use your head for something other than a hat rack. Logic is the word and the word was God. Therefore logic proves that a dead language which was out of use for 2,000 years. Wouldn't be used by people who couldn't order a hot dog in that language. The Hebrew Rootist isn't using Yahweh, Yeshua and Shalom, because he thinks they are correct. He uses them to sound more (in his mind) Jewish. Was Hebrew the language of the New Testament? Obviously not. Was Yeshua the name they were introduced to when they first came into the Apostolic Faith...no. But, all of a sudden Boudreaux and Thibodeaux start spouting off in Hebrew, without the faintest idea. The message is you DON'T speak Hebrew, not a word. Yet you call Him a name which for over 2,000 years no one ever cared to call Him.


One it only seems to you. Therefore a man's perception is his reality.
So, if it seems that you are the only one teaching truth on the Internet all we can do is point out the opposite. You can either disprove or ignore it entirely. That's not our problem whether you see it or not. Hebrew Roots Movement is all about subtitly anyway. It has been Judaizing Christianity since day one. Lots of sincere people have ended up denouncing Christ, and converting to Babylonian Talmudic Judaism.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM02...=BeitHaMitzvot

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That in itself is commendable. Contend for the New Covenant Faith. But you come across as some others here as if "Jews" are the most POWERFUL FORCE in the Earth. As if "Jews" own and control all things.
Blaspheme this name at your own risk.

Psalms 68:4

4Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rides upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.

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Mike, are you speaking for yourself? Others here? What others? Mike who are the others who believe this? 10 people who actively post? Any of those?
We had someone posting a lot about Jews taking over the world enmasse, I was going back and forth against his premiss. Did you and "the others" happen to catch any of that discussion?

Mike, if that VERB is so important and that we can BLASPHEME it.

Why wasn't it peppered throughout the New Testament? Ἁλληλουϊά·appears in Revelation. But no mention of the Hebrew verb in the New Testament? Why is that Mike? Where did it go? How dare you threaten anyone with blasphemy over a Hebrew verb which is NEVER mentioned in the CHRISTIAN New Testament.

"Seems" to me that you are a Judaizer? :lol

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Psalms 68:4

4Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rides upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.

This is English. I sing praises to his name. I extol him. I rejoice before him.

This name is 4 times in Revelation.

Rev. 19:1-4

1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 5And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

Strongs 239....PRAISE YE JAH

So yes YAH is in the New Testament.

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Mike, you are wrong my friend. YAH is NOWHERE in the New Testament.
Another thing, you might be able to wow the locals with your expertease in flipping pages of a Strong's concordance. But the facts are that within the New Testament we don't have any of the writers making a stink like you over a Hebrew verb.

English is the language you used since 1974 when you first set a foot in a church? Did the preacher YAH you? Did he tell you that you needed to pray to YAH, praise YAH, sing about YAH? No, he didn't. Were you directed to Yahshua? No. Jesus was the name, Jesus is the name in your Bible that you held in your hands in 1974. Jesus was the name you were baptized in. Mike, if you were dropped in the middle of Israel you wouldn't be able to order a bottle of water and a shawarma pita in Hebrew. So, do me a favor, don't tell me or anyone else that not getting your three uppercase letters in the right order is blasphemy.

YAH?

If it was so important Mike, it would of been found in every book of the New Testament. Typical Yahwist pleadings to bring up Revelation's Ἁλληλουϊά.
Yet, no mention of YAH as God's proper name anywhere in the New Testament library.

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Rev. 19:1-6

This is English. I sing praises to his name. I extol him. I rejoice before him.

This name is 4 times in Revelation.

Rev. 19:1-4

1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 5And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

YOUNGS CONCORDANCE PAGE 28.....PRAISE JAH.

Fits nicely with Psalms 68:4

4Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rides upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.

Two of the most well known Concordances in America are in agreement. Strongs and Youngs. YAH is in the New Testament.

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Mike, if I read the Quran and came across inshallah only four times in one portion of that book? Mike, I wouldn't be claiming that the Muslims believed Allah was too important. You see Mike, I'm talking about the New Testament, you are waving around four times a compound word is used. Where's YAH Mike? You see that's the point you are dodging here. No YAH, in 26 books of the New Testament! But four times a compound word not the lone verb which you said I was blaspheming. Mike, if you can blaspheme by misusing this verb then why isn't it in the New Testament?

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Which is it Mike? JAH or YAH?

How about IAH?

Mike if it can be misused and cause someone to blaspheme, why isn't it in the New Testament?

YAH, JAH, IAH, YAHN?

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This is the gist of the matter.

Yah wasn't put in use with Judaic tradition. Because as Mike is accusing me of blaspheming. They believed it to be sacred (like Sacred Name Groups). Therefore they would use the Hebrew word for LORD Adonai. Yet, this is the proper Judaic tradition, which "modern Christians" blow off. They believe YAH was somehow through a scribal conspiracy erased. Jehovah Witnesses advocate for Jehovah to be placed in New Testaments. It is all wrong, but they do it because they are a sacred name group. Now, the Judaic tradition was adonai, the Greek used κύριος, the Latin dominus, and the English LORD. The New Testament quotes the LXX, and other Aramaic texts, but you will not find any New Testament writers referring to God as YAH. In Judaic tradition it just wasn't what they did with YAH, meaning since their belief concerning that verb, they didn't use it much in their writings. Therefore when the Hellenized Diaspora Judeans translated the Hebrew Tanakh from Hebrew to Greek they followed suit with Judaic traditions. Using κύριος for adonai. When the Greek LXX was translated into the Latin Vulgate κύριος became domnius. When the English translated the Hebrew, LXX, and Vulgate it became LORD.

Yah isn't a sacred name which we must shake and quake.

There is only one name given among men, that name is Jesus.

There is no salvation in any other name.

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Therefore YAH becomes the Brazen Serpent for the Hebrew Roots and Sacred Namers.

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Wait... so, where LORD is placed in the OT it reads as ADONAI in the Hebrew text, NOT Jehovah? 🤯

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You started this.

Now that you are shown to be OPPOSING the two most well known Concordances in America you are getting upset. Get a grip if you can.

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Why didn't the apostles teach gentile believers to use the name Jah/Yah?

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Jehovah was first Iehovah created by a misunderstanding of the Hebrew.
Adonai is traditionally used only to refer to God. Hence the reason we have Lord used well over 2,000 years. Sacred Name and (I wish I was a Hebrew) groups constantly use something that no one else cared about.

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No Mike, you said I was blaspheming. Maybe you are really the blasphemer?


You mean concordances that you yourself can't prove if they're right or wrong?
"Seems" like the only one who is upset is YOU.