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diakonos 04-23-2019 11:43 PM

Netanyahu: I will name a golan town after trump
 
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Netanyahu said there “is a need to express our appreciation by calling a community or neighborhood on the Golan Heights after Donald Trump."

Source

diakonos 04-23-2019 11:48 PM

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Wonder how long before they erect the golden Trump statue that comes to life. Wait, no, Trump is from God... no, he’s antichrist, no... I don’t know. And neither do you, futurist! :lol



Ok ok I’m going to sleep

Evang.Benincasa 04-24-2019 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562352)

Wonder how long before they erect the golden Trump statue that comes to life. Wait, no, Trump is from God... no, he’s antichrist, no... I don’t know. And neither do you, futurist! :lol



Ok ok I’m going to sleep

First Satan will come down in his space ship.
He will have a meeting with Benny and Trump.
He will then make a peace agreement between Palistians and Israelis.
Then he will be on the cover of Brother Baxter Jr’s Endtime magazine shaking hands with Bill Clinton, er, I mean Donald Trump.
A short while after this a war against Israel will occur. Ethiopia will be the first to strike with their jets, I mean biplanes. Hot air ballons? Then the golden statue will speak powered by a super computer in Brussels Belgium, called the Beast.

Evang.Benincasa 04-24-2019 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562351)

Wow!!!

jediwill83 04-24-2019 09:06 AM

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Goyville? Lol whats reeeeeeeally interesting is seeing BiBi say one thing in english but when he gives speeches is Hebrew its a bit of a different tone...

Pressing-On 04-24-2019 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562351)

If I were Bibi or a Jewish Israeli, I would be ecstatic that I had support against the enemies surrounding me. The Golan Heights is a strategic security location for Israel. And why should the Israeli government have to travel to do their business in Jerusalem? It should have always been their capital.

I have no idea why people are so angry when the Muslim countries want to kill the infidels - Christians and Jews. The Jews aren't digging tunnels into Gaza to inflict terrorism. We should always support Israel. Not only are they our strongest democratic ally in the Middle East, but America was founded on Judeo-Christian values. We have things in common which we will never have with Muslim nations. I guess they don't teach that in school anymore.

Ya'll sound heavily anti-Semitic. I personally believe that what Paul stated about the Jews in Romans 3:2 stands as well today. We woudn't know one thing about the Messiah if they had not preserved His Word. They preserve it today, whether they see the truth or not.

Bibi is one happy camper and I am glad for him. Everything he has hoped for, Trump gave it to him, while only other presidents pretended that they would.

Viva la Israel!

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד

Michael The Disciple 04-24-2019 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562394)
If I were Bibi or a Jewish Israeli, I would be ecstatic that I had support against the enemies surrounding me. The Golan Heights is a strategic security location for Israel. And why should the Israeli government have to travel to do their business in Jerusalem? It should have always been their capital.

I have no idea why people are so angry when the Muslim countries want to kill the infidels - Christians and Jews. The Jews aren't digging tunnels into Gaza to inflict terrorism. We should always support Israel. Not only are they our strongest democratic ally in the Middle East, but America was founded on Judeo-Christian values. We have things in common which we will never have with Muslim nations. I guess they don't teach that in school anymore.

Ya'll sound heavily anti-Semitic. I personally believe that what Paul stated about the Jews in Romans 3:2 stands as well today. We woudn't know one thing about the Messiah if they had not preserved His Word. They preserve it today, whether they see the truth or not.

Bibi is one happy camper and I am glad for him. Everything he has hoped for, Trump gave it to him, while only other presidents pretended that they would.

Viva la Israel!

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד

:highfive

diakonos 04-24-2019 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562394)
If I were Bibi or a Jewish Israeli, I would be ecstatic that I had support against the enemies surrounding me. The Golan Heights is a strategic security location for Israel. And why should the Israeli government have to travel to do their business in Jerusalem? It should have always been their capital.

I have no idea why people are so angry when the Muslim countries want to kill the infidels - Christians and Jews. The Jews aren't digging tunnels into Gaza to inflict terrorism. We should always support Israel. Not only are they our strongest democratic ally in the Middle East, but America was founded on Judeo-Christian values. We have things in common which we will never have with Muslim nations. I guess they don't teach that in school anymore.

Ya'll sound heavily anti-Semitic. I personally believe that what Paul stated about the Jews in Romans 3:2 stands as well today. We woudn't know one thing about the Messiah if they had not preserved His Word. They preserve it today, whether they see the truth or not.

Bibi is one happy camper and I am glad for him. Everything he has hoped for, Trump gave it to him, while only other presidents pretended that they would.

Viva la Israel!

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד

You are my favorite person here. So, this is not an attack. But, you sound like a Republican Zionist. Lol

Anyway, I’m not anti-semitic. I don’t believe that today’s Jews are Jews... but that’s a different issue all together.

I just think it is goofy to name a city or neighborhood after Trump. Just my opinion. Mostly unrelated, “Stalingrad” is now circulating in my thoughts. :lol

Esaias 04-24-2019 06:49 PM

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Should call it a Golem Town.

Esaias 04-24-2019 07:30 PM

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Judeo-Christian values? That's an oxymoron.

Islam vs Judaism:

Jesus is Messiah? Islam yes, Judaism no.
Jesus sent by God? Islam yes, Judaism no.
Jesus is in Heaven on God's right hand? Islam yes, Judaism says He is in hell burning in excrement.
Mary mother of Jesus blessed among women? Islam yes, Judaism says she was a whore.
Christian churches to be protected? Islam technically yes, Judaism teaches it is a mitzvah to burn Christian churches.

During the Crusades, Jews routinely and regularly supported the Muslims against Christians. During the Crusades, Muslim armies routinely attacked Christians at the request of Jews.

Today, Jews have admitted they are financing and directing the ongoing Islamic invasion of Europe.

Jews believe Christianity is "Edom" and destined to be destroyed by Divine Judgment. Every single Sabbath all observant Jews worldwide curse all Christians during the Amidah prayer.

Christmas is celebrated every year in Syria and Iran as the birthday of Jesus the Messiah. Our "allies", Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, routinely murder Christians as a matter of course.

Israel is a known supporter of both ISIS and AlQaeda. Syria and Iran oppose ISIS and AlQaeda.

"Whoever blesses the Jews will be blessed by God."

We have supported the Jewish state since 1948 (just recently with a 38 BILLION dollar aid package to help secure their borders and sovereignty, can't afford so much as a burger stand on our own border, go figure). So, since 1948,

Have we had less crime? Or more crime?
Less immorality? Or more immorality?
Victorious in war? Or defeats?
Less perversion? Or more perversion?
Less divorce? Or more divorce?
Less corruption? Or more?
Are your kids better off now than kids were in 1948 in the USA?
Better food? Or worse food?
Greater health? Or worse health?
Less communism? Or more communism?
Less illegal invaders? Or more illegal invaders?
Less debt? Or more debt?
Stronger, more vibrant Christianity? Or weaker, decaying churchianity?
Were street evangelists going to jail in the US in 1948? Are they today?
Less abortion? Or more?
What was playing on the radio in 1948? What's playing today?
What were kids taught in schools in 1948? What are they taught today?
Has education improved? Or gotten worse?

Maybe some folks have been duped into unquestioning support of ANTICHRIST thinking they are doing the will of God?

Pressing-On 04-24-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562404)
You are my favorite person here. So, this is not an attack. But, you sound like a Republican Zionist. Lol

Anyway, I’m not anti-semitic. I don’t believe that today’s Jews are Jews... but that’s a different issue all together.

I just think it is goofy to name a city or neighborhood after Trump. Just my opinion. Mostly unrelated, “Stalingrad” is now circulating in my thoughts. :lol

LOL!

Hey, I have a friend who subscribes to Baxter's End Times for me. I don't have the heart to say I never read it. :heeheehee

Bibi's brother was killed fighting for Israel. You know that man wants to name something after Trump. This is a miracle to him. And, again, I am thrilled for Bibi and all of Israel who wanted their capital to be Jerusalem.

All of this ancestry.com stuff is turning up some interesting things. Having said that, I think of the Jewish people in Israel that way. There is no way I believe that not a single person there has a lineage back to the days of Christ. It just wouldn't make a bit of sense. The largest majority of people don't travel too far from where they started. JMO.

And, of course, Easias is just such a ball of sunshine. I guess I will ignore his posts. :heeheehee

diakonos 04-24-2019 07:59 PM

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The largest majority of people don't travel too far from where they started. JMO.

But when a people are taken into captivity...

Esaias 04-24-2019 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562424)

But when a people are taken into captivity...

...they get moved out. And then OTHER people move in...

diakonos 04-24-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562429)
...they get moved out. And then OTHER people move in...

Correct :thumbsup

Praxeas 04-24-2019 09:05 PM

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Trumpalem?

MawMaw 04-25-2019 03:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562394)
If I were Bibi or a Jewish Israeli, I would be ecstatic that I had support against the enemies surrounding me. The Golan Heights is a strategic security location for Israel. And why should the Israeli government have to travel to do their business in Jerusalem? It should have always been their capital.

I have no idea why people are so angry when the Muslim countries want to kill the infidels - Christians and Jews. The Jews aren't digging tunnels into Gaza to inflict terrorism. We should always support Israel. Not only are they our strongest democratic ally in the Middle East, but America was founded on Judeo-Christian values. We have things in common which we will never have with Muslim nations. I guess they don't teach that in school anymore.

Ya'll sound heavily anti-Semitic. I personally believe that what Paul stated about the Jews in Romans 3:2 stands as well today. We woudn't know one thing about the Messiah if they had not preserved His Word. They preserve it today, whether they see the truth or not.

Bibi is one happy camper and I am glad for him. Everything he has hoped for, Trump gave it to him, while only other presidents pretended that they would.

Viva la Israel!

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ יְהוָה אֶחָֽד

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562423)
LOL!

Hey, I have a friend who subscribes to Baxter's End Times for me. I don't have the heart to say I never read it. :heeheehee

Bibi's brother was killed fighting for Israel. You know that man wants to name something after Trump. This is a miracle to him. And, again, I am thrilled for Bibi and all of Israel who wanted their capital to be Jerusalem.

All of this ancestry.com stuff is turning up some interesting things. Having said that, I think of the Jewish people in Israel that way. There is no way I believe that not a single person there has a lineage back to the days of Christ. It just wouldn't make a bit of sense. The largest majority of people don't travel too far from where they started. JMO.

And, of course, Easias is just such a ball of sunshine. I guess I will ignore his posts. :heeheehee

In agreement with you PO! I'm very happy for them! :thumbsup

Pressing-On 04-25-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1562446)
In agreement with you PO! I'm very happy for them! :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Pressing-On 04-25-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1562424)

But when a people are taken into captivity...

I think this article makes sense. It is about science and genetics. You don’t lose your genetics even if taken into captivity.


Are the Jews of Today Really Descendants of Abraham Who Should Inherit the Land?
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/6...-jewish-world/

Esaias 04-25-2019 07:57 PM

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Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.

Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.
https://www.livescience.com/40247-as...ean-genes.html
...

...recent DNA analysis of Ashkenazic Jews – a Jewish ethnic group – revealed that their maternal line is European. It has also been found that their DNA only has 3% ancient ancestry which links them with the Eastern Mediterranean (also known as the Middle East) – namely Israel, Lebanon, parts of Syria, and western Jordan. This is the part of the world Jewish people are said to have originally come from – according to the Old Testament. But 3% is a minuscule amount, and similar to what modern Europeans as a whole share with Neanderthals. So given that the genetic ancestry link is so low, Ashkenazic Jews most recent ancestors must be from elsewhere. https://www.phys.org/news/2018-09-as...cientists.html

Esaias 04-25-2019 07:59 PM

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Meanwhile...

Up to 40 percent of DNA results from consumer genetic tests might be bogus


https://www.technologyreview.com/f/6...ight-be-bogus/

Esaias 04-25-2019 08:02 PM

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In one instance, the consumer genetics company 23andMe told one twin she was 13 percent “Broadly European.” The other twin’s test, meanwhile, showed she had just 3 percent “Broadly European” ancestry, and had more DNA matched to other, more specific regions in Europe. What’s more, when the twins had their DNA tested by five companies, each one gave them different results.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...ence-explainer

Evang.Benincasa 04-26-2019 04:30 AM

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The Israelites/Judeans lineages weren’t about DNA.
How do you check DNA for a Levite priest who had married a prostitute and sired children? Leviticus 21:7. DNA wouldn’t of picked up if a Levite married a daughter of Barzillai, a Gileadite. After 2,000 + years and being dispearsed among the nation of the world the with no viable lineages, Ezra and Nehemiah would of thrown what WE call Jews off the building program. Most certainly there is no one qualified to be high priest alive today. Thank God we have the Gospel and our King and High Priest Jesus Christ.

Pressing-On 04-26-2019 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1562520)
The Israelites/Judeans lineages weren’t about DNA.
How do you check DNA for a Levite priest who had married a prostitute and sired children? Leviticus 21:7. DNA wouldn’t of picked up if a Levite married a daughter of Barzillai, a Gileadite. After 2,000 + years and being dispearsed among the nation of the world the with no viable lineages, Ezra and Nehemiah would of thrown what WE call Jews off the building program. Most certainly there is no one qualified to be high priest alive today. Thank God we have the Gospel and our King and High Priest Jesus Christ.

Amen!!

I thank God that He would never throw Israel or its people under the bus today. God isn't anti-semitic. That we can be thankful for as well.

Esaias 04-26-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562526)
Amen!!

I thank God that He would never throw Israel or its people under the bus today. God isn't anti-semitic. That we can be thankful for as well.

Judeo-Christianity is a different religion than what the Bible gives us, apparently.

Pressing-On 04-26-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562538)
Judeo-Christianity is a different religion than what the Bible gives us, apparently.

Well, make sure you don't sing - He brought me out of the miry clay.

He doesn't stop loving and reaching for people in any group just because they don't have the truth right. I am glad, as a young Catholic, that He lead me to Him.

Esaias 04-26-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562547)
Well, make sure you don't sing - He brought me out of the miry clay.

He doesn't stop loving and reaching for people in any group just because they don't have the truth right. I am glad, as a young Catholic, that He lead me to Him.

Seriously? Do you even read what you post?

You said "I thank God that He would never throw Israel or its people under the bus today. God isn't anti-semitic."

God DID INDEED "throw Israel under the bus", several times. That wouldn't make Him "antisemitic" at all. By the way, is God anticanaanitic? Aren't Arabs and Palestinians supposed to be Semitic, too?

You also distinguished between Israel "or its people". You seem to think the political entity called "The State Of Israel" is the Israel spoken of in the Bible? Israel, in the Bible, IS THE PEOPLE.

But anyway, God Himself in His Word says whoever denies Jesus is the Christ is ANTICHRIST.

How is it that Christians can support and side with and defend ANTICHRIST??? Meanwhile many of you are all busy thinking Nicolai Carpathia or whatever with his VeriChip giveaway is what the Bible is warning about, while you SERVE ANTICHRIST THINKING YOU ARE SERVING GOD!!!!!

Didn't those old timey preachers tell you that Antichrist would be a DECEIVER? Not show up with horns and pitchfork drooling black venom like some WitchKing of Angmar.

Good grief the deception runs thick.

TK Burk 04-26-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562552)
But anyway, God Himself in His Word says whoever denies Jesus is the Christ is ANTICHRIST.

:highfive

Ehud 04-26-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562552)
Didn't those old timey preachers tell you that Antichrist would be a DECEIVER? Not show up with horns and pitchfork drooling black venom...

I don’t ever recall being taught this in my local congregation. It wasn’t until I began watching the Seventh Day Adventists that this point was really driven home.

TK Burk 04-26-2019 06:00 PM

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Biblically, to be considered “Jewish,” a person would either be born of Jewish parents, born of a Jewish mother or be a gentile converted according to Old Testament Law. This latter group is known as a “proselyte.” Though proselytes converted to Judaism, they did not gain entry into a Jewish tribe, since their conversion did not add them to the already ongoing history of Jewish lineage. The only way to become part of this genealogy was to marry into it. Examples of such conversion are a Canaanite named Rahab (Rachab), and a Moabitess named Ruth. Both of these former gentiles are mentioned in Jesus’ Jewish genealogy (see Matthew 1:5). When these gentile women married their Jewish husbands, they became believers in the one true God, and they agreed to keep the Old Testament commandments (see Joshua 2:9-11; Ruth 1:16). As a result, they became members of their husband’s Jewish tribe. This is why we find both Rahab and Ruth in the lineage of Judah, and why they are both listed in the ancestry leading back to Abraham and Adam. Such inclusion into a Jewish tribe was never available for gentiles who remained in idolatry.

The Law requires that Priests provide a written lineage to prove they derived from a pure Hebrew bloodline (see Exodus 6:14-25; Numbers 3:1-5, Numbers 3:17-39, Numbers 26:57-61; Nehemiah 7:4-73; Nehemiah 12:1-26; Matthew 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38). This evidence had to be a written account proving an untainted bloodline tracing back to the time of Abraham and Adam. DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid) can't—and never will—do this since it cannot prove there was never any gentile blood in their descents. The Bible disqualified a priest and his offspring if there was ever any intermingling with gentiles (see Nehemiah 7:5, Nehemiah 7:63-64; Ezra 2:61-62, Ezra 10:11-19). In addition to this, if you were a priest during the time of Herod’s Temple, you had to prove, not only Levite lineage, but also, more specifically, a lineage from the Levite tribe of Zadok (see Ezekiel 43:19, Ezekiel 44:15-17, Ezekiel 48:11-12). The Jewish lineage records were burned and destroyed during the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. Thus, no such records remain that can prove an untainted bloodline dating back to the time of Adam.

Evang.Benincasa 04-26-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1562563)
Biblically, to be considered “Jewish,” a person would either be born of Jewish parents, born of a Jewish mother or be a gentile converted according to Old Testament Law. This latter group is known as a “proselyte.” Though proselytes converted to Judaism, they did not gain entry into a Jewish tribe, since their conversion did not add them to the already ongoing history of Jewish lineage. The only way to become part of this genealogy was to marry into it. Examples of such conversion are a Canaanite named Rahab (Rachab), and a Moabitess named Ruth. Both of these former gentiles are mentioned in Jesus’ Jewish genealogy (see Matthew 1:5). When these gentile women married their Jewish husbands, they became believers in the one true God, and they agreed to keep the Old Testament commandments (see Joshua 2:9-11; Ruth 1:16). As a result, they became members of their husband’s Jewish tribe. This is why we find both Rahab and Ruth in the lineage of Judah, and why they are both listed in the ancestry leading back to Abraham and Adam. Such inclusion into a Jewish tribe was never available for gentiles who remained in idolatry.

The Law requires that Priests provide a written lineage to prove they derived from a pure Hebrew bloodline (see Exodus 6:14-25; Numbers 3:1-5, Numbers 3:17-39, Numbers 26:57-61; Nehemiah 7:4-73; Nehemiah 12:1-26; Matthew 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38). This evidence had to be a written account proving an untainted bloodline tracing back to the time of Abraham and Adam. DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid) can't—and never will—do this since it cannot prove there was never any gentile blood in their descents. The Bible disqualified a priest and his offspring if there was ever any intermingling with gentiles (see Nehemiah 7:5, Nehemiah 7:63-64; Ezra 2:61-62, Ezra 10:11-19). In addition to this, if you were a priest during the time of Herod’s Temple, you had to prove, not only Levite lineage, but also, more specifically, a lineage from the Levite tribe of Zadok (see Ezekiel 43:19, Ezekiel 44:15-17, Ezekiel 48:11-12). The Jewish lineage records were burned and destroyed during the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. Thus, no such records remain that can prove an untainted bloodline dating back to the time of Adam.

Amen, it was never about DNA, but genealogy.
The super interesting thing about all of this is how utterly brainwashed people are concerning this subject. Circumcision was the Old Covenant mark which joined you with God and the nation. Paul was dead set against any Roman non Judean joining into the genealogical record of Physical Israel. But Zionist Christians here in the United States can’t see how the Apostle Paul viewed the whole circumcision and Judean identity thing among the Gentiles. The Judeans wanted just to convert Gentiles into physical Judeans after they were baptized in Jesus name. Which the Apostle was vehemently opposed to.

Being called anti Semitic over this issue just shows how confused the other side can be. Dispensationalism is to blame. A Jewish formulated teaching.

Pressing-On 04-26-2019 08:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562552)
Seriously? Do you even read what you post?

You said "I thank God that He would never throw Israel or its people under the bus today. God isn't anti-semitic."

God DID INDEED "throw Israel under the bus", several times. That wouldn't make Him "antisemitic" at all. By the way, is God anticanaanitic? Aren't Arabs and Palestinians supposed to be Semitic, too?

You also distinguished between Israel "or its people". You seem to think the political entity called "The State Of Israel" is the Israel spoken of in the Bible? Israel, in the Bible, IS THE PEOPLE.

But anyway, God Himself in His Word says whoever denies Jesus is the Christ is ANTICHRIST.

How is it that Christians can support and side with and defend ANTICHRIST??? Meanwhile many of you are all busy thinking Nicolai Carpathia or whatever with his VeriChip giveaway is what the Bible is warning about, while you SERVE ANTICHRIST THINKING YOU ARE SERVING GOD!!!!!

Didn't those old timey preachers tell you that Antichrist would be a DECEIVER? Not show up with horns and pitchfork drooling black venom like some WitchKing of Angmar.

Good grief the deception runs thick.

They are people, just like anyone else in need of salvation. That is how I believe God views them. You want to bring dispensationalism into the conversation, but the bottom line is that they are just people. And it just sounds like y’all hate them or something.

You also don’t know when or who among them will have their eyes opened. Who would have thought Saul/Paul would believe in Jesus Christ. You are writing them off and it isn’t your place to do that.

Evang.Benincasa 04-26-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562574)
They are people, just like anyone else in need of salvation. That is how I believe God views them. You want to bring dispensationalism into the conversation, but the bottom line is that they are just people. And it just sounds like y’all hate them or something.

You also don’t know when or who among them will have their eyes opened. Who would have thought Saul/Paul would believe in Jesus Christ. You are writing them off and it isn’t your place to do that.

This is interesting, I would like to discuss this for a moment. Please explain how it sounds like we HATE them. First of all I believe those who have posted about them gave adequate explanations how Modern Jews and Israelis are not even remotely connect to Bible Israelites 12 tribes as the Bible prescribes. There is no hate, but only explanation on how they are not Biblically connected to the Bible. We are called anti Semitic, and now haters? But te Bible gives definition on who is actually of the tribes. Which Modern Jews are not. How is that being hateful? Actually you have been programed to respond this way to us. Because we are showing you the truth. Which we cannot refute, and if you have something to add by all means give a rebuttal.
Dispensationalism is brought into the discussion because it is the detergent which was employed to get you to respond the way you do. It isn't your fault that you respond in this manner. It is part and parcel of your religious experience. The Rabbis, Israeli settlers, and secular Israelis totally understand this, and see you all as Manchurian candidates. Which by buzz words you will carry out to defend their cause. Pretty amazing watching this all work out. So, buy all means please show us how we "look, like haters"

TK Burk 04-26-2019 09:37 PM

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If you’re one that believes a written lineage establishing a “pure Jewish bloodline” back to Abraham and Adam still exists, ask yourself why the lineage for the priest candidates in Rabbi Richman’s Temple Institute in Jerusalem is researched only back to their great-grandfather. This is where this practice is admitted:
“Kohanim, priests directly descended from Moses’s brother Aaron, are recognized by the Institute as such IF THEIR PATERNAL GRANDFATHER OBSERVED THE TRADITION.” (Jerusalem Post, Third Temple Preparations begin with Priestly Garb, 2008)
Tracking your lineage to your “paternal grandfather” would in no way satisfy what is biblically commanded to qualify a man to be a Jewish priest.

Since no written lineage exists today, some preachers claim that DNA can be substituted as evidence. DNA experts would disagree for they know there is no test that can prove the purity of a bloodline. Thus, there is no test that gives absolute proof of a pure Cohen bloodline going back to Aaron’s priestly family and beyond. Therefore, DNA evidence cannot meet God’s stipulations for qualifying a person for the Levitical priesthood. This 60 Minute’s broadcast focused on the good and bad of DNA testing:
“‘This business of genetic genealogy is fraught with limitations. For one thing, it can only provide information about a tiny fraction of our ancestry. Because we get half our DNA from our mothers and a half from our fathers, almost all of our DNA gets shuffled and remixed every generation, making it impossible to trace what comes from whom. There are just two bits of DNA that remain pure – the ‘Y’ chromosome, which passes directly from father to son, and something called ‘mitochondrial DNA’, which passes unchanged from mother to child.’ 



Hank Greely, a law professor at Stanford University, has studied this new field. He worries that people don’t realize just how many ancestors they actually have.



‘Eight generations ago both you and I had 256 great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents.’ Wait, you’re saying if you go back eight generations we have 256 great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents? ‘Yes, it doubles every generation. So you’ve got two parents. You have four grandparents. You have eight great grandparents. Sixteen great-great-grandparents. And it adds up fast. It adds up so fast in fact that if you go back 20 generations you’ve got over a million grandparents.’ 



1,048,576 to be exact. And in each generation, DNA testing can provide information about only two of them. 



‘So you could be Peruvian on your mother’s mother’s mother’s side. Japanese on your father’s father’s father’s side. Swedish on everything else.’ And you’ll never know. ‘You’ll never know Swedish from the ‘Y’ chromosome from the mitochondrial DNA.’” (60 Minutes, Rebuilding the Family Tree)
Not only do those candidates hoping to perform animal sacrifices or become the Jewish High Priest need a written lineage proving they have a pure Kohanim bloodline, but more specifically, they must prove they are from the priestly line of Zadok (see Ezekiel 43:19, Ezekiel 44:15-17, Ezekiel 48:11-12). Why a lineage from Zadok? It is no coincidence that the name Zadok means “righteousness.” It appears his descendants were chosen because of Zadok’s faithfulness to David’s throne. He stood with David during the time of Absalom’s rebellion (see 2 Samuel 15:24-29). He also stood with Solomon in preference to Adonijah (see 1 Kings 1:8, 1 Kings 1:39). Because of his fidelity, God made Zadok’s decedents the exclusive line of priests to serve at the altar of sacrifice and in the office of High Priest.

The dilemma for Dispensational teachers is there is no such written lineage to prove who is and who is not of the priestly line of Zadok. DNA testing certainly cannot do this. Nevertheless, the Bible demands a proven lineage, for, without it, there can be no purification from the ashes of a red heifer…ashes which only a Zadok priest can prepare…and the problem goes around and around and around (see Numbers 19:3–10).

Names on tombstones, DNA testing, and tracing one’s family tree back to a paternal grandfather does not satisfy the command for carefully documented genealogy like those found in the book of Numbers, Matthew 1, and Luke 3. Regarding priestly genealogy, the following quote is from Rabbi Alfred J. Kolatch. He has authored about 50 books including The Jewish Home Advisor, This is the Torah and Jewish Book of Why. In his book, Inside Judaism: The Concepts, Customs, And Celebrations of the Jewish People, he writes:
“Despite the acceptance of proselytes the equals of unborn Jews, in Jewish Law certain limitations are placed upon the convert, the most oppressive being that of a priest (Cohen) may not marry a convert, although a daughter of a Cohen may marry a convert. The reason offered is since early proselytes came from heathen stock, they were considered tainted. Therefore, a priest, who was expected to be as unblemished as the sacrifice he offered on the altar, was not permitted to marry a woman whose past life might reflect negatively on his character, or stigmatize his offspring. 



Today, only the orthodox community abides by these restitutions. The position taken by the Rabbinical Assembly (Conservative) is that since today’s priests, in general, are of uncertain genealogy and there is no way to prove to them that they are descendants of the family of Aaron of the tribe of Levi, the ruling has lost its validity. They also argue that it is unfair and even embarrassing to admit a female proselyte to the Jewish fold, but then to deny her the right to marry a Cohen, based on a regulation that might have had validity when the Temple existed but is no longer a factor in Jewish life. The reestablishment of the Temple, they argue, is not anticipated. The Reform and Reconstructionist rabbinate share the Conservative view.” (Inside Judaism: The Concepts, Customs, And Celebrations of the Jewish People, Alfred J. Kolatch, The Priestly Family, page 135)
Did you see that Kolatch admitted that today “There is no way to prove that they are descendants of the family of Aaron of the tribe of Levi”?

Esaias 04-26-2019 10:08 PM

Re: Netanyahu: I will name a golan town after trum
 
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1562574)
They are people, just like anyone else in need of salvation. That is how I believe God views them.

Not true. You do NOT view them as "just like anyone else in need of salvation", nor do you believe God thinks of them in that same way. The truth is you believe they are DIFFERENT, and that God views them differently as well. You believe they are the people mentioned in the Bible as Israel. the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You believe they are special, and deserve special treatment, like they shouldn't be criticized, or that if someone doesn't support them they must be "hateful antisemites".

Look inside yourself, and compare your thoughts and feelings towards Jews in Israel with your thoughts and feelings towards Christians in the West Bank, Syria, or Lebanon, or within Israel itself.


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You want to bring dispensationalism into the conversation, but the bottom line is that they are just people.
Just people... who our government gives billions and billions of dollars to, in order to secure their borders, while our own borders are wide open, while these recipients of our largesse (tribute?) hamper and hinder and oppose our own efforts to secure our borders... just people who demand the right to live in their own ethnostate while labelling anyone else desiring the same exact thing as being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews...just people that our sons and daughters bleed and die to protect, and to further their aims, while bombing everyone who Israel opposes...

This is the classic, historical definition of being a TRIBUTARY, of being CONQUERED.

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And it just sounds like y’all hate them or something.
That's because not worshipping the official god is always "hateful". Anyone who is critical or fails to bow when the shofars are tweeted is accused of "hate". And the accusation no longer even registers on the radar, it has been overused.

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You also don’t know when or who among them will have their eyes opened. Who would have thought Saul/Paul would believe in Jesus Christ. You are writing them off and it isn’t your place to do that.
I haven't written anybody off. I'm just saying they don't need my money, adulation, adoration, nor do I need to sit by as Scripture is twisted and lies are peddled by the ignorant. :thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 04-26-2019 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1562585)
Did you see that Kolatch admitted that today “There is no way to prove that they are descendants of the family of Aaron of the tribe of Levi”?

Excellent, yet the "seeing" isn't part of those who have been schooled in Dispensationalism. Logic and facts don't weigh heavy in their paradigm. Therefore while those who have either thought outside the box, and those who have never been in the box can see this scenario planly. The dispensationalist has the automatic shut down switch in the back of the brain. He or she cannot accept the data because the walls of defense are tributaries which reach other facets within their religious experience. Like, Moonies, Sciencetologists, Jehovah Witness, or People's Temple, any conflicting information must be shut down. The arguments never change, they always remain the same. The Babylonian Talmud Rabbi understands totally, that the dispensationalist will defend their group. Look at it this way. Imagine Christians defending the pharisees against Jesus?

Pretty interesting stuff.

But, I must stress that the dispensationalist doesn't (COULDN'T) even begin to understand that what he or she are doing.

Evang.Benincasa 04-26-2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562586)
Not true. You do NOT view them as "just like anyone else in need of salvation", nor do you believe God thinks of them in that same way. The truth is you believe they are DIFFERENT, and that God views them differently as well. You believe they are the people mentioned in the Bible as Israel. the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You believe they are special, and deserve special treatment, like they shouldn't be criticized, or that if someone doesn't support them they must be "hateful antisemites".

Look inside yourself, and compare your thoughts and feelings towards Jews in Israel with your thoughts and feelings towards Christians in the West Bank, Syria, or Lebanon, or within Israel itself.




Just people... who our government gives billions and billions of dollars to, in order to secure their borders, while our own borders are wide open, while these recipients of our largesse (tribute?) hamper and hinder and oppose our own efforts to secure our borders... just people who demand the right to live in their own ethnostate while labelling anyone else desiring the same exact thing as being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews...just people that our sons and daughters bleed and die to protect, and to further their aims, while bombing everyone who Israel opposes...

This is the classic, historical definition of being a TRIBUTARY, of being CONQUERED.



That's because not worshipping the official god is always "hateful". Anyone who is critical or fails to bow when the shofars are tweeted is accused of "hate". And the accusation no longer even registers on the radar, it has been overused.



I haven't written anybody off. I'm just saying they don't need my money, adulation, adoration, nor do I need to sit by as Scripture is twisted and lies are peddled by the ignorant. :thumbsup

:highfive :yourock :thumbsup :shockamoo :amen

Esaias 04-26-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1562587)
Excellent, yet the "seeing" isn't part of those who have been schooled in Dispensationalism. Logic and facts don't weigh heavy in their paradigm. Therefore while those who have either thought outside the box, and those who have never been in the box can see this scenario planly. The dispensationalist has the automatic shut down switch in the back of the brain. He or she cannot accept the data because the walls of defense are tributaries which reach other facets within their religious experience. Like, Moonies, Sciencetologists, Jehovah Witness, or People's Temple, any conflicting information must be shut down. The arguments never change, they always remain the same. The Babylonian Talmud Rabbi understands totally, that the dispensationalist will defend their group. Look at it this way. Imagine Christians defending the pharisees against Jesus?

Pretty interesting stuff.

But, I must stress that the dispensationalist doesn't (COULDN'T) even begin to understand that what he or she are doing.

EXACTLY. Especially that last sentence. It's programming, anything else "does not compute... blerp blerp... error... error... Danger, Will Robinson!"

Evang.Benincasa 04-27-2019 05:19 AM

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This is a question for the DNA crowd.

Why does the Old Testament have lists of Genealogies?

Why was it important for Matthew and Luke to show us Jesus’?

Ehud 04-27-2019 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562586)
Not true. You do NOT view them as "just like anyone else in need of salvation", nor do you believe God thinks of them in that same way. The truth is you believe they are DIFFERENT, and that God views them differently as well.

This seems to be the case with many groups these days. They want to be ‘equal’ by receiving ‘special’ treatment.

Absolutely spot on. :thumbsup

Pressing-On 04-27-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1562586)
Not true. You do NOT view them as "just like anyone else in need of salvation", nor do you believe God thinks of them in that same way. The truth is you believe they are DIFFERENT, and that God views them differently as well. You believe they are the people mentioned in the Bible as Israel. the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You believe they are special, and deserve special treatment, like they shouldn't be criticized, or that if someone doesn't support them they must be "hateful antisemites".

Look inside yourself, and compare your thoughts and feelings towards Jews in Israel with your thoughts and feelings towards Christians in the West Bank, Syria, or Lebanon, or within Israel itself.




Just people... who our government gives billions and billions of dollars to, in order to secure their borders, while our own borders are wide open, while these recipients of our largesse (tribute?) hamper and hinder and oppose our own efforts to secure our borders... just people who demand the right to live in their own ethnostate while labelling anyone else desiring the same exact thing as being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews...just people that our sons and daughters bleed and die to protect, and to further their aims, while bombing everyone who Israel opposes...

This is the classic, historical definition of being a TRIBUTARY, of being CONQUERED.

America has always supported our Democratic allies. As for our borders, we do need to do more, but there are Constitutional arguments that must be hashed out in Congress. The 14th Amendment being one. We can argue about that all day. It will have to be decided by the Supreme Court.


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That's because not worshipping the official god is always "hateful". Anyone who is critical or fails to bow when the shofars are tweeted is accused of "hate". And the accusation no longer even registers on the radar, it has been overused.



I haven't written anybody off. I'm just saying they don't need my money, adulation, adoration, nor do I need to sit by as Scripture is twisted and lies are peddled by the ignorant. :thumbsup
You always come across as angry and hateful toward those you dialogue with. The bold is case in point. You always insult anyone who disagrees with you.
We should compile a list of everyone you have called, stupid, ignorant, etc.,...

"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" Acts 10:34

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28

Maybe you are surprised that someone could defend a country that is our largest and only Democratic ally in the region while also believing that they must obey Acts 2:38 because there is no other message whereby they will be saved.


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