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JamesGlen 06-04-2019 12:50 PM

When your own wife and kids call you, Pastor
 
Is that kinda weird, when while meeting with the church, the wife and children commonly, if not always, refer to their husband and dad, (The church pastor), as “pastor “? (Instead of dad, or honey or whatever)

Maybe it’s a common thing, I’m not sure, I just noticed it the last few months. Seems kinda strange to me.

Other denoms?

I mean when I think about ithe biblical nt church of the scriptures, I’m thinking Peters wife or kids did not call him apostle or pastor....maybe I’m amiss though.

diakonos 06-04-2019 07:15 PM

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Maybe only around other believers?

JamesGlen 06-04-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1565681)
Maybe only around other believers?

I’m confident that is correct.

Still seems strange to me.

diakonos 06-04-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesGlen (Post 1565684)
I’m confident that is correct.

Still seems strange to me.

Yeah, I’ve never seen it done.

Sherri 06-06-2019 07:52 AM

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I call my pastor/husband Eddie wen talking to other adults.
Excerpt around kids, then I say Pastor Eddie so they will learn to.

TK Burk 06-06-2019 01:00 PM

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I had one pastor tell me he'd rather have his kids think of him as their pastor than their dad. I was shocked.

I have never enjoyed being called "pastor." I much prefer "Brother" being used before my name. I see it this way:

I introduce my self by the name "Tom Burk" because that's who I am.

My parents called me "son" because that's who I am.

My wife introduces me as "Husband" because that's who I am.

My kids call me "Dad" because that's who I am.

But "Pastor" is not who I am--it's what I do.

So, to me, calling a person "pastor" is like calling others in the church names like "housewife." "Fireman," "waitress," store clerk," retiree," or whatever else they do. Such names are titles or descriptions of what they do, not names of who they are.

navygoat1998 06-07-2019 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565838)
I had one pastor tell me he'd rather have his kids think of him as their pastor than their dad. I was shocked.

I have never enjoyed being called "pastor." I much prefer "Brother" being used before my name. I see it this way:

I introduce my self by the name "Tom Burk" because that's who I am.

My parents called me "son" because that's who I am.

My wife introduces me as "Husband" because that's who I am.

My kids call me "Dad" because that's who I am.

But "Pastor" is not who I am--it's what I do.

So, to me, calling a person "pastor" is like calling others in the church names like "housewife." "Fireman," "waitress," store clerk," retiree," or whatever else they do. Such names are titles or descriptions of what they do, not names of who they are.

Good call Brother Burk! :highfive

Apostolic1ness 06-07-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565838)
I had one pastor tell me he'd rather have his kids think of him as their pastor than their dad. I was shocked.

I have never enjoyed being called "pastor." I much prefer "Brother" being used before my name. I see it this way:

I introduce my self by the name "Tom Burk" because that's who I am.

My parents called me "son" because that's who I am.

My wife introduces me as "Husband" because that's who I am.

My kids call me "Dad" because that's who I am.

But "Pastor" is not who I am--it's what I do.

So, to me, calling a person "pastor" is like calling others in the church names like "housewife." "Fireman," "waitress," store clerk," retiree," or whatever else they do. Such names are titles or descriptions of what they do, not names of who they are.

IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

hometown guy 06-07-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness (Post 1565922)
IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

I agree. Don’t see the logic of the difference in the “ dad “ and “pastor” example.

Evang.Benincasa 06-07-2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565838)
I had one pastor tell me he'd rather have his kids think of him as their pastor than their dad. I was shocked.

I have never enjoyed being called "pastor." I much prefer "Brother" being used before my name. I see it this way:

I introduce my self by the name "Tom Burk" because that's who I am.

My parents called me "son" because that's who I am.

My wife introduces me as "Husband" because that's who I am.

My kids call me "Dad" because that's who I am.

But "Pastor" is not who I am--it's what I do.

So, to me, calling a person "pastor" is like calling others in the church names like "housewife." "Fireman," "waitress," store clerk," retiree," or whatever else they do. Such names are titles or descriptions of what they do, not names of who they are.

I want to be known as shy and timid.

TK Burk 06-07-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness (Post 1565922)
IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

hometown guy 06-07-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565957)
The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

TK Burk 06-07-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1565958)
I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

You don't see the difference?

How many children do you know that calls their parents by the name of what they do for a living?

TK Burk 06-07-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1565958)
I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

hometown guy 06-07-2019 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565964)
What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

TK Burk 06-07-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1565958)
If I meet the President I will will call him president trump.

You didn't catch what you did there. You didn't say you'd call him "President," but "President Trump."

If he was on that fishing trip with you, it would be awkward to ask, "'President', would you like another RC Cola?"

No, as you posted, you'd use his actual name. You ask, 'President Trump', would you like another RC Cola?"

Names like Mr., Mrs., Dr., President are considered "Titles" or "honorific names" used to describe that person. Normally, they are used with a person's last name. Hence: Mr. Smith. Mrs. Jones. Dr. Welby. President Trump.

The same goes with "pastor." It is a title or honorific name that should accompany the person's name. Hence: "Pastor Guy."

Some have made this less formal by using instead the first name. Hence: "Pastor Hometown."

But--again--being president is what Donald Trump does, not who he is...and pastoring is what Hometown Guy does, not who he is.

Paul said he did the works of an apostle, but you never see anyone calling him, "Apostle," but instead he is called, "Paul."

TK Burk 06-07-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1565965)
Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Esaias 06-07-2019 09:38 PM

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The use of religious titles is forbidden to Christians. There is no clergy/laity distinction in the church of God:


Matthew 23



1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

TK Burk 06-07-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1565968)
The use of religious titles is forbidden to Christians. There is no clergy/laity distinction in the church of God:


Matthew 23



1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Yes, and then there's that... :thumbsup

As I said, I prefer using Brother So-in-so, or Sister So-in-so for everyone no matter if they're in a pulpit or a pew.

hometown guy 06-07-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565967)
You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t icecream

hometown guy 06-07-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1565967)
You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t lol

TK Burk 06-07-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1565976)
Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t lol

:smack



:heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 06-08-2019 04:45 AM

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Hey, what’s a suffering Bishop? Or is it suffocating Bishop? Or Suffergin Bishop?

Evang.Benincasa 06-08-2019 04:47 AM

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I know, every time Michael the Disappointed wears burlap, an angel gets his wings.

votivesoul 06-08-2019 11:59 AM

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My wife calls me "Lord" and my children call me "Sire".

TK Burk 06-08-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1566001)
My wife calls me "Lord" and my children call me "Sire".

:yourock

Evang.Benincasa 06-08-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1566001)
My wife calls me "Lord" and my children call me "Sire".

:lol

Esaias 06-08-2019 11:00 PM

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You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Jay. Or you can call me ....

TK Burk 06-09-2019 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1566025)
You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Jay. Or you can call me ....

You can tell a person's age by that one... :thumbsup

Esaias 06-09-2019 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 1566027)
You can tell a person's age by that one... :thumbsup

lol

Evang.Benincasa 06-09-2019 05:42 AM

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Raymond J Johnson Jr

TK Burk 06-09-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1566032)
Raymond J Johnson Jr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoYsfbq3vMc

jediwill83 06-09-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1566025)
You can call me Ray. Or you can call me Jay. Or you can call me ....




Just dont call me Shirley.

TK Burk 06-09-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1566037)
Just dont call me Shirley.

https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/mid...e%2Bquotes.jpg


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