Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577337)

This can be a very problematic strike. There is no turning around from this point. Now we are committed to move forward, and Iran are committed to be our enemy forever! Two former presidents didn't want to take this general out, and there is a good reason why. But, there is no longer any discussion on why not to assassinate General Qassem Soleimani. We already did, now it's the Iranian's next move. Qassem Soleimani. Somewhere in Manhattan there are five Mossad agents high fiving each other. Good grief, Statism is the biggest religion on the planet.

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577341)

Probably a few more than 5 but it's all good man! The US of A is Gods country and anything King Cyrus does is under Gods direct control ESPECIALLY when taking out Israel's enemies.

Entangling alliances are a goooood thing!

We are allllll together sink or swim and isnt it nice not being alone?

Nobody wants to be the grumpy party pooping isolationist in the corner who didnt want to be at the party to begin with!

Hey I have an idea thats sure to be super swell!

How about we count how many treaties for mutual defense Iran has and with who?

Ill bet Russia makes the list!

Iran has treaties with Russia, Venezuela and Lebanon.

And those nations have alliances with other nations.

Just sayin...this could get nasty especially with China redoubling their efforts to move into and develop the African continent.

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577341)

Probably a few more than 5 but it's all good man! The US of A is Gods country and anything King Cyrus does is under Gods direct control ESPECIALLY when taking out Israel's enemies.




Entangling alliances are a goooood thing!


We are allllll together sink or swim and isnt it nice not being alone?


Nobody wants to be the grumpy party pooping isolationist in the corner who didnt want to be at the party to begin with!





Hey I have an idea thats sure to be super swell!


How about we count how many treaties for mutual defense Iran has and with who?


Ill bet Russia makes the list!


Iran has treaties with Russia, Venezuela and Lebanon.


And those nations have alliances with other nations.


Just sayin...this could get nasty especially with China redoubling their efforts to move into and develop the African continent.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

One promise which Trump has not kept is the promise to bring the troops home and end all foreign wars. I'm disappointed that his first term is coming to an end, our boys are still in the ME and we are still taking offensive military actions.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

Everyone agrees that Soleimani was an evil and cruel man. He plotted and organized strikes against the US which killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians over the decades.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

He was arrogant and stupid for believing he could just fly into Baghdad days after Iranian militias tried storming the Embassy and soon after a US contractor was killed. The fact that Iraq allowed him to do so should cause Trump to question Iraq's loyalties and commitment.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

I don't know what intel Trump had or what Soleimani was doing in Baghdad. One can only imagine he was plotting something against the US Embassy or bases there.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

Iran has ALWAYS been a dangerous enemy. I don't agree with those who claim we're less safe today than when Soleimani was alive.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

The POTUS cannot end foreign wars, because they are a part of our conquest of the Middle East. One promise he has not kept, because it is impossible to keep. History is our finest teacher, she teaches us what to always expect. How things pan out and work within the machine. Don't expect virtue from leadership, it is just not in them. But expect leadership that by any means necessary will take what it needs to survive. Crushing all that dares to slow its progress down.



Evil and cruel? That is because he isn't on our side. Look, every opposition of "our side" is evil and cruel. Because we can't say he was godly and loved his family to a fault. That is because then we look like the bad guys. Every war which was ever fought painted the opposition as the baby killers. To understand history, we understand the future. If we don't learn from history, then we have no future. Qassem Soleimani was the enemy, and leader of the enemy force. If he is evil and cruel because he killed people, well, I would kind of expect that since he is a solider. As being a general he would have to kill all who opposes his objectives. Not expecting him to be a diplomat who is taking long walks down the beach with his opposition. No, that is what the politicians do. The warrior fights the wars, and kills and gets killed.
Qassem Soleimani mistake is that he never thought a POTUS would retaliate to such a magnitude. Maybe Qassem Soleimani believed Trump was good on a promise of removing his troops out of foreign wars. Which I don't believe that he thought the U.S. would ever leave. But he did believe that a strike swiftly implemented so soon and against him wouldn't happen. He was wrong.



Can of worms, we should of left long long ago. What is our objectives? Why are we still there? They don't hate us because we are Christians or that we are free. They hate us because we kill them, and in return they kill us. POTUS question the loyalties of Iraq?? Saddam Hussein (if he was still alive) would laugh hysterically. He had to run the place like Dr Moreau on the Island of Lost Souls. Everyone knows this, but can't understand you cannot export American Republican Democratic Christian values on the end of a rifle butt. Or with a pack of cigarettes, can of Sprite, unlimited HBO, and free Amazon Prime. No way it will happen. But subjugation takes a lot of military might, and a lot of manpower. Conquest is hard work which takes a long time. You have to get rid of their religion, language, and culture. It has to be replaced with our religion, language, and culture. Then after a couple of generations (maybe even more than that) they will look just like us. :D



Intel? We know what Qassem Soleimani wanted to do. It was all over the internet since Trump was elected. Since the first "tweets" from our illustrious leader against Iran. Qassem Soleimani promised to hit us where we least expect it. that they had cells in places where we had no idea where they were hiding.



Bro, this isn't about Qassem Soleimani. This isn't about the reality show actor who we have as president. This is about a bear you put a few arrows in. Now, it has run off into the woods. The job at this point, is to finish the job.
You see this "enemy" doesn't march a battalion like the red coats at Bunker Hill. They are among us, and now the game MIGHT just been stepped up. If Qassem Soleimani was just blowing smoke, and we have already captured all the cells around our bases and country. Then we can all go back to arguing over hair length and which day is the sabbath. If he was telling the truth and it is worse than we originally thought. Then we will find that out as well. Whichever way we slice it, what these politician do to protect us, I sure wish they would put a wee bit more prayer and fasting into it.

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577355)

Really wishing I had my own homestead about now off in the woods.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577356)

Maybe it will all be ok. Hey, there is no way they can mess with us on our own soil. We are building a wall like Hadrian. It worked for him right? It will work for us. All is well, go to sleep knowing that nothing can stop a people who have a free month of Amazon Prime. :)

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1577357)

But brother . . .

I don’t have free amazon prime.

What shall I do?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

The POTUS cannot end foreign wars, because they are a part of our conquest of the Middle East. One promise he has not kept, because it is impossible to keep. History is our finest teacher, she teaches us what to always expect. How things pan out and work within the machine. Don't expect virtue from leadership, it is just not in them. But expect leadership that by any means necessary will take what it needs to survive. Crushing all that dares to slow its progress down.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

Evil and cruel? That is because he isn't on our side. Look, every opposition of "our side" is evil and cruel. Because we can't say he was godly and loved his family to a fault. That is because then we look like the bad guys. Every war which was ever fought painted the opposition as the baby killers. To understand history, we understand the future. If we don't learn from history, then we have no future. Qassem Soleimani was the enemy, and leader of the enemy force. If he is evil and cruel because he killed people, well, I would kind of expect that since he is a solider. As being a general he would have to kill all who opposes his objectives. Not expecting him to be a diplomat who is taking long walks down the beach with his opposition. No, that is what the politicians do. The warrior fights the wars, and kills and gets killed.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

Qassem Soleimani mistake is that he never thought a POTUS would retaliate to such a magnitude. Maybe Qassem Soleimani believed Trump was good on a promise of removing his troops out of foreign wars. Which I don't believe that he thought the U.S. would ever leave. But he did believe that a strike swiftly implemented so soon and against him wouldn't happen. He was wrong.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

Can of worms, we should of left long long ago. What is our objectives? Why are we still there? They don't hate us because we are Christians or that we are free. They hate us because we kill them, and in return they kill us. POTUS question the loyalties of Iraq?? Saddam Hussein (if he was still alive) would laugh hysterically. He had to run the place like Dr Moreau on the Island of Lost Souls. Everyone knows this, but can't understand you cannot export American Republican Democratic Christian values on the end of a rifle butt. Or with a pack of cigarettes, can of Sprite, unlimited HBO, and free Amazon Prime. No way it will happen. But subjugation takes a lot of military might, and a lot of manpower. Conquest is hard work which takes a long time. You have to get rid of their religion, language, and culture. It has to be replaced with our religion, language, and culture. Then after a couple of generations (maybe even more than that) they will look just like us. :D

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

Intel? We know what Qassem Soleimani wanted to do. It was all over the internet since Trump was elected. Since the first "tweets" from our illustrious leader against Iran. Qassem Soleimani promised to hit us where we least expect it. that they had cells in places where we had no idea where they were hiding.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

Bro, this isn't about Qassem Soleimani. This isn't about the reality show actor who we have as president. This is about a bear you put a few arrows in. Now, it has run off into the woods. The job at this point, is to finish the job.
You see this "enemy" doesn't march a battalion like the red coats at Bunker Hill. They are among us, and now the game MIGHT just been stepped up. If Qassem Soleimani was just blowing smoke, and we have already captured all the cells around our bases and country. Then we can all go back to arguing over hair length and which day is the sabbath. If he was telling the truth and it is worse than we originally thought. Then we will find that out as well. Whichever way we slice it, what these politician do to protect us, I sure wish they would put a wee bit more prayer and fasting into it.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

One promise which Trump has not kept is the promise to bring the troops home and end all foreign wars. I'm disappointed that his first term is coming to an end, our boys are still in the ME and we are still taking offensive military actions.

Everyone agrees that Soleimani was an evil and cruel man. He plotted and organized strikes against the US which killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians over the decades.

He was arrogant and stupid for believing he could just fly into Baghdad days after Iranian militias tried storming the Embassy and soon after a US contractor was killed. The fact that Iraq allowed him to do so should cause Trump to question Iraq's loyalties and commitment.

I don't know what intel Trump had or what Soleimani was doing in Baghdad. One can only imagine he was plotting something against the US Embassy or bases there.

Iran has ALWAYS been a dangerous enemy. I don't agree with those who claim we're less safe today than when Soleimani was alive.

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1577379)

Let's see if I have this about right:

President Trump was in Miami, Florida today at a huge rally of Evangelicals, kickstarting a new group called Evangelicals for Trump, and his first order of business was to remark about the deaths of the leaders of Isis and Quds, to the sounds of much cheering and applause.

It sounds to me like he has been well-informed regarding traditional Evangelical eschatology and his pandering to these folks who can't wait for billions of people to die horrible deaths according to their end-time scheme. Why they are seeing prophecy fulfilled right before their very eyes!!!

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1577380)

Maybe you wanted them to send $1.7 million in unmarked bills, in the middle of the night, on pallets so they could kill more Americans.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577368)

Very important to notice how Senator Graham reacted.
You nailed it, when you noticed that display.
Also it will be interesting how the Democrats will use this in the near future.
But my main concern is for my family, apostolic family, and friends. You know, we the people who the upper crust care nothing about. What’s in it for us?

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577383)

But my main concern is for my family, apostolic family, and friends. You know, we the people who the upper crust care nothing about. What’s in it for us?

Please explain, not sure if I’m understanding correctly.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577382)

That’s what we know about, there’s plenty of other stuff that goes on that we’ll never know about. We get the news that they want us to hear. President Trump is the President in name only there’s a deep state that controls the strings. And don’t be fooled when higher ups of the government get more blood lust they’ll be another war for some reason and some foreign sound good name that will ease our minds when they “kill” to protect us.

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1577385)

War.

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1577385)

War.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577392)

When you think about it, isn’t war what people desire.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577392)

Doesn’t war bring the country that was founded on “God” together? Doesn’t it reunite us after all we’re so divided right now.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577392)

War might do this country good, and I’m not talking about the so called war that remains on enemies land, the war this country desires is when it comes on our soil.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577392)

Then the church can take up real arms and defend against the real threat of our democracy.

:guns

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1577393)

I propose that we wait and see what happens. They said Trump would start a war with North Korea. Then they said a war would be eminent when Trump moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. Maybe along with the other terrorist leaders he has put down, we can remember that Iran isn’t a threat to us. They will want to survive more than they want to go to war. Trump has already stated that he doesn’t want and isn’t seeking a regime change. That means he isn’t wanting to go to war, he just wanted to retaliate against the man who also planned the Benghazi attack.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1577378)

He was working with Los Zetas. Do you see how dangerous he was and why that is a huge border issue?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577394)

Yes, very much so. Hence the reason why we have a professional military that never gets disbanded. Take the early Roman republic. The military was only assembled during times of war. The title dictator was only employed during times of war. During the time when Julius Caesar returns to Rome at the river Rubicon he retains the title dictator for life. The majority of Romans got over this pretty quick, and followed this pattern for the remainder of the empire. At first the senate was horrified because "dictator" for life was a danger since Rome's republic means the public thing. Meaning a democracy based on laws. Where the people are no longer under the dictum of a king. Yet, since people like one man rulership (which in reality no dictator or kingship is one man alone) the people followed like sheep. War is good for so many things. The Roman people benefited from war. and so did the elite of Rome.




Well, that is how it was early in the empire. It brought the Pax Romana. It lasted 200 years (basically). Yet, as the empire went through its periods from, exploration, pioneering, conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, decadence, and finally decline and collapse. By the time of intellect, and decadence, the people can no longer be brought together through unity to fight a common enemy. look at the war of the Judeans 66-70 A.D.. Judah was absolutely segmented to such a degree she couldn't come together to fight a common enemy. Its internal factions maintained a environment which caused in fighting amongst the different groups within the walls of Jerusalem. While the Romans bashed against the walls the Judeans were killing each other inside the gates of the city. Destruction always comes from within. Church splits happen from within, when ecclesiastical bitterness is nurtured.
But, that church split never started immediately, it is gradual, like rot and termites. Which takes a beautiful building and reduces it to rubble. A marriage, a business partnership, a church family, an eldership, and finally a country. Goes through stages which ultimately bring it all crashing down. No common outside enemy can ever bring again their original solidarity.



On our soil? No my brother. While we wax hollywood in our thoughts to fantasize that we will become a band of brothers. All united as partisans fighting a Red Dawn like Wolverines. My opinion is that it will be more like a Zombie Holocaust. I have been through many a hurricane where gas, and other supplies are in demand. No electricity, no fuel, and people may come together in the beginning, after the problems aren't solved in short order, become ferocious. Guns being pulled on gas lines, weapons pulled in grocery stores over bottled water. Generators being stolen out of backyards while still running? Crimes committed all over the city due to the police are over taxed by hurricane damage and power outages. That is just a hurricane aftermath. But a war on our soil? Good God from Zion, I shudder to think what people would do to each other.




Sadly some would be killing each other before they even had one enemy soldier come through the front doors of the church building. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, therefore if we can't even get that straight, how on earth can we survive the approaching storm.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1577403)

We need to always keep in mind that both anger and fear can cause people to seek God. So, instead of praying as a victim, let us pray for our country and others that these times will cause them to seek someone higher. God is able.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577401)

Sadly some would be killing each other before they even had one enemy soldier come through the front doors of the church building. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, therefore if we can't even get that straight, how on earth can we survive the approaching storm.

Brother I couldn’t agree more. Your right it’s sad, time tells all.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1577392)

When you think about it, isn’t war what people desire. Doesn’t war bring the country that was founded on “God” together? Doesn’t it reunite us after all we’re so divided right now. War might do this country good, and I’m not talking about the so called war that remains on enemies land, the war this country desires is when it comes on our soil. Then the church can take up real arms and defend against the real threat of our democracy.

:guns

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1577416)

Huh?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577421)

I believe (MHO) he was being facetious.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577406)

Amen, because even if nothing happens in our lifetime. Even if Donald Trump becomes president for 10 more years. That the United States becomes a United Pentecostal Church camp meeting and we live on nothing but FLORIDA barbeque, collards, banana pudding, and red velvet cake. The main thing is that each individual should be working on themselves to be able to walk through the furnace heated seven times hotter. So, that when he comes out on the other end, you will never even smell the smoke.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1577457)

Red velvet cake from Publix. :happydance