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Amanah 03-21-2020 12:54 AM

Perspectives on COVID 19
 
From Bishop CM Wright:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoRTgqtuAmc

Amanah 03-21-2020 12:56 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
From Pastor Raymond Woodward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYJFdaPoUiU

Amanah 03-21-2020 06:11 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
if you are home in the evenings, eRevival:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...1&d=1584792612

Amanah 03-21-2020 07:56 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
God is showing us that the buildings and programs we have idolized while while going through the motions of religious life by checking the boxes does not satisfy His requirement that all saints walk in the Spirit, being led of the Spirit, in true relationship and submission in all aspects of our lives.

diakonos 03-21-2020 07:59 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583701)
God is showing us that the buildings and programs we have idolized while while going through the motions of religious life by checking the boxes does not satisfy His requirement that all saints walk in the Spirit, being led of the Spirit, in true relationship and submission in all aspects of our lives.

Showing WHO?

Pressing-On 03-21-2020 08:18 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583701)
God is showing us that the buildings and programs we have idolized while while going through the motions of religious life by checking the boxes does not satisfy His requirement that all saints walk in the Spirit, being led of the Spirit, in true relationship and submission in all aspects of our lives.

Well said! :highfive

Amanah 03-21-2020 08:21 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1583703)
Showing WHO?

Anyone who worships God when they show up at the church building but lives a self centered life the rest of the week.

Amanah 03-23-2020 02:43 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlmxq_YzwVA

Amanah 03-23-2020 08:09 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
From wikipedia:

According to the New Testament, the earliest Christians did not build church buildings. Instead, they gathered in homes (Acts 17:5, 20:20, 1 Corinthians 16:19) or in Jewish worship places like the Second Temple or synagogues (Acts 2:46, 19:8). The earliest archeologically identified Christian church is a house church (domus ecclesiae), the Dura-Europos church, founded between 233 and 256.[4] In the second half of the 3rd century AD, the first purpose-built halls for Christian worship (aula ecclesiae) began to be constructed. Although many of these were destroyed early in the next century during the Diocletianic Persecution, even larger and more elaborate church buildings began to appear during the reign of the Emperor Constantine the Great

diakonos 03-23-2020 01:38 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
They did not build church buildings because it was illegal.

Amanah 03-23-2020 02:56 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
1st century church was a mega church, they could not fit in a buiding

Pressing-On 03-23-2020 09:09 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

Barb 03-23-2020 09:38 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584001)
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

Always on point... :)

Nicodemus1968 03-23-2020 10:31 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584001)
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

Why didn't the other disciples get together and go and physically fight to get Paul out from his imprisonment?

KeptByTheWord 03-24-2020 12:19 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583986)
1st century church was a mega church, they could not fit in a buiding

:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584001)
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

He sure doesn't!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584003)
Why didn't the other disciples get together and go and physically fight to get Paul out from his imprisonment?

Maybe they had learned after Peter's difficult lesson when he cut off the soldier's ear, that perhaps it was better to let the Lord fight the battle, then try their hand at it....

Amanah 03-24-2020 01:45 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584001)
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

:yourock

Amanah 03-24-2020 01:59 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Lessons learned:

**the Church will function with or without a building.

**there is another option for dealing with this pandemic:
Let those who statistically have mild effects from covid19 to go back to work and build up "herd immunity" so the economy can function and let those who are higher risk continue to distance themselves for another month or so until it runs it course.

diakonos 03-24-2020 04:03 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584003)
Why didn't the other disciples get together and go and physically fight to get Paul out from his imprisonment?

What does that have to do with her post?

Evang.Benincasa 03-24-2020 04:11 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1584018)
Lessons learned:

**the Church will function with or without a building.

**there is another option for dealing with this pandemic:
Let those who statistically have mild effects from covid19 to go back to work and build up "herd immunity" so the economy can function and let those who are higher risk continue to distance themselves for another month or so until it runs it course.

Better yet, the true church will function with or without us.

Esaias 03-24-2020 04:17 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584003)
Why didn't the other disciples get together and go and physically fight to get Paul out from his imprisonment?

Is this a real question?

Paul appealed to Caesar. He was "under house arrest" in a rented house waiting for his court appearance before the Emperor. He was there voluntarily and intentionally. How do you not know this?

Nicodemus1968 03-24-2020 07:55 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1584023)
What does that have to do with her post?

Nothing, I just thought of it as I read it.

Pressing-On 03-24-2020 12:29 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584032)
Nothing, I just thought of it as I read it.

Probably your first thought should have been that you immediately went negative. It is a huge problem in the church today, IMO. “...However, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth”?

Nicodemus1968 03-24-2020 01:46 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584037)
Probably your first thought should have been that you immediately went negative. It is a huge problem in the church today, IMO. “...However, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth”?

On the contrary dear sister/brother. I’m not going negative with my thoughts, I was referring to Paul was in the will of God while awaiting to appeal to Caesar and then become a martyr. They didn’t storm the house he was in because they (disciples/followers) knew it was the will of God. Paul told them in his letters, Paul wasnt beat down, he wasn’t discouraged or he wasnt as I read in one writing depressed concerning the fact that his time was limited. All these threads on Coronavirus or whatever there calling it now, God is in control and the church should not worry. It doesn’t matter if the virus is produced in a lab in china or here, you shouldnt trust in men the church trusts in God. We should not fear or be afraid, because God is in control.

Nicodemus1968 03-24-2020 01:49 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584037)
Probably your first thought should have been that you immediately went negative. It is a huge problem in the church today, IMO. “...However, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth”?

Question for you?

When Jesus returns, is he still considered the “son of man” or is he God?

Nicodemus1968 03-24-2020 01:50 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583672)

He has awesome teaching on Prayer and the levels of tongues.

diakonos 03-24-2020 02:43 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584042)
He has awesome teaching on Prayer and the levels of tongues.

Levels of tongues?

n david 03-24-2020 03:10 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1584050)
Levels of tongues?

I'm curious as well.

TGBTG 03-24-2020 05:51 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1584041)
Question for you?

When Jesus returns, is he still considered the “son of man” or is he God?

Both

Nicodemus1968 03-24-2020 07:09 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1584050)
Levels of tongues?

He has a podcast of all his teachings. His older teachings on tongues is very good!

Amanah 03-27-2020 02:31 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
I don't believe God caused CV19 or that it is a judgement on the world.

God does use our trials and struggles to perfect us and bring us closer to Him.

I have listened to several Pastors during this time of isolation and there is a common message. In the life of a child of God, there are no sacred spaces, no separation between the secular and holy.
Every aspect of our lives must be holy. We are the Church, we need to be able to maintain a walk with God, pray and fast and hear from God whether or not we are able to meet in a building.
This is a time when people are having to face who they really are. We can't be one way when we enter a building 3 times a week and then someone else on at home, on the job, or in the store.

We are not to forsake the assembling of ourselves, and are instructed to live our lives in community with each other. We are instructed to love each other with a pure heart fervently.
This is up close and personal. Anyone who does not long to be reunited in fellowship with their Church family, is not right with God.

I believe we will come through this stronger than we were before because there are strong lessons to be learned if we will but learn them.

loran adkins 03-27-2020 06:02 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
What gets me about this virus, is how the media seems to only report on the negative points about this virus not on the positive. Like how many have contracted the virus, but not how little amount of deaths in comparison to other past pandemics.

I was reading accouple of news stories today, and one was a comparison of those that have contracted the virus, and then in Quotations was the amount of deaths. As if they did not want to emphasis the amount of deaths was so little in comparison, and the fact that the confirmand cases were so small in the first place.

Evang.Benincasa 03-27-2020 06:05 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loran adkins (Post 1584374)
What gets me about this virus, is how the media seems to only report on the negative points about this virus not on the positive. Like how many have contracted the virus, but not how little amount of deaths in comparison to other past pandemics.

I was reading accouple of news stories today, and one was a comparison of those that have contracted the virus, and then in Quotations was the amount of deaths. As if they did not want to emphasis the amount of deaths was so little in comparison, and the fact that the confirmand cases were so small in the first place.

Are the newspapers reporting those who have RECOVERED???

No???

Wait!

I can hear it!!!

Hulk Hogan’s theme song!

We are saved!!!

Mr Trump, hold me!!! :tissue

loran adkins 03-27-2020 06:34 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1584375)
Are the newspapers reporting those who have RECOVERED???

No???

Wait!

I can hear it!!!

Hulk Hogan’s theme song!

We are saved!!!

Mr Trump, hold me!!! :tissue

No. I have talk radio on all day and I check the news every morning. All I see and hear are how many contracted the virus, and how many died. So I started to do a little research and found that the numbers don't even come close to the numbers in past years. Even the flu this year far out number those that have died from corona virus.

Amanah 03-27-2020 06:54 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loran adkins (Post 1584378)
No. I have talk radio on all day and I check the news every morning. All I see and hear are how many contracted the virus, and how many died. So I started to do a little research and found that the numbers don't even come close to the numbers in past years. Even the flu this year far out number those that have died from corona virus.

I believe the issue is that we have no herd immunity; therefore public services, emergency services, and health care services could be overwhelmed.

coksiw 03-27-2020 12:44 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1583981)
They did not build church buildings because it was illegal.

This is the first time I hear about that. Do you have any reference to it I can look at?

Synagogues were legal in the Roma empire. You can see it in Acts.

n david 03-27-2020 01:11 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Pretty sure AZ is headed for Shelter in Place orders. The news announced AZ had it's largest 24hr increase in confirmed cases and deaths. (No word on those who have beaten the virus, of course)

The DHS head here says AZ won't likely peak until April with hospitalizations peaking in MAY!

Esaias 03-27-2020 06:30 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1584379)
I believe the issue is that we have no herd immunity; therefore public services, emergency services, and health care services could be overwhelmed.

Herd immunity? They might as well prescribe leeches and wave chickens around.

Evang.Benincasa 03-30-2020 11:05 PM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1584423)
Herd immunity? They might as well prescribe leeches and wave chickens around.

:happydance :heeheehee :happydance

:happydance :yourock :happydance

Ron 04-01-2020 04:02 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1584001)
My perspective this evening.

Paul was under house arrest when he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. We don’t know what God causes, but we know He doesn’t waste the time. :thumbsup

A Jewel found that says it succinctly.😇👍

Ron 04-01-2020 04:04 AM

Re: Perspectives on COVID 19
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1584389)
This is the first time I hear about that. Do you have any reference to it I can look at?

Synagogues were legal in the Roma empire. You can see it in Acts.

Synagogues may have been legal but Synagogues wer one of a few things that the Jews brought back from Babylon.


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