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Esaias 03-21-2020 05:23 AM

What's really going on?
 
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.

But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)

Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).

I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:27 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583686)
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.

But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)

Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).

I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.

And yes, I hope I'm wrong. Though, I hope that if I am wrong, the reality isn't even worse.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:29 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
And by the way, yes I have taken into account all the people diagnosed with the Chinese Flu and who have passed because of it. I'm not saying nobody's getting sick or something stupid like that. This isn't Sandy Hook.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:32 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.

Amanah 03-21-2020 06:18 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583686)
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.

But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)

Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).

I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.

I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.

And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.

Freeindeed 03-21-2020 06:56 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583689)
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.

I know that you catch a lot of flak here on AFF, but I really appreciate your posts. Please keep sharing with us your findings and analysis.

jediwill83 03-21-2020 07:41 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Ok just saw a clip on Twitter with Trump saying that they had to break the system they inherited...no idea on the context but Ill keep an eye out.

Amanah 03-21-2020 07:49 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1583697)
Ok just saw a clip on Twitter with Trump saying that they had to break the system they inherited...no idea on the context but Ill keep an eye out.

Outdated health care system

KeptByTheWord 03-21-2020 08:09 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Bro. E. THANK YOU. I appreciate your insight. I really do!

None of us really knows. But we can all see signs that are pointing to something. It is very interesting to see that both Iran and China have the worst outbreak, and Italy next. Could there have been some sort of conspiracy? It's very possible. All cards are on the table.

Quote:

I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.
Amen!

Nicodemus1968 03-21-2020 08:18 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583688)
And by the way, yes I have taken into account all the people diagnosed with the Chinese Flu and who have passed because of it. I'm not saying nobody's getting sick or something stupid like that. This isn't Sandy Hook.

Chinese Flu:
Racist to use that word...

Sandy Hook:
What’s that???

:heeheehee

james34 03-21-2020 09:37 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1583710)
Chinese Flu:
Racist to use that word...

Sandy Hook:
What’s that???

:heeheehee

Google sandy hook/alex jones

diakonos 03-21-2020 10:56 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Uhh... the “false flag” Sandy Hook school shooting.

Pressing-On 03-21-2020 11:02 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583689)
There are other scenarios I think are plausible and possible. But I am leaning toward this one being the most likely. Time will tell.

I lean toward Italy and Iran having tremendous financial trouble (Italy has had 3 recessions in a 10 year span and we know Iran’s state of affairs - China has been selling them weapons and nuclear materials) and China standing to benefit. China is trying and has been working with Italy on a railroad which would expand their footprint into Europe.

I also believe China wanted America to panic and were looking more to us overreacting, which would hurt our business interests more than people being harmed. So, they got that. Payback for tariffs.

TGBTG 03-21-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1583729)
I lean toward Italy and Iran having tremendous financial trouble (Italy has had 3 recessions in a 10 year span and we know Iran’s state of affairs - China has been selling them weapons and nuclear materials) and China standing to benefit. China is trying and has been working with Italy on a railroad which would expand their footprint into Europe.

I also believe China wanted America to panic and were looking more to us overreacting, which would hurt our business interests more than people being harmed. So, they got that. Payback for tariffs.

Trying to understand your line of reasoning - Why would the break out begin in china if china was targeting us with a bio weapon?

wouldn't it be more plausible that we targeted them first with a bio weapon?

Pressing-On 03-21-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1583732)
Trying to understand your line of reasoning - Why would the break out begin in china if china was targeting us with a bio weapon?

wouldn't it be more plausible that we targeted them first with a bio weapon?

Did you think they cared about their own people after they pushed the one child agenda? I think Senator Tom Cotton agrees that we shouldn’t use a conspiracy theory, but also be aware this is a place where their bio testing takes place.

No, it doesn’t make sense we would hit them first. Several virus’ have originated from China.

Armapeet.Singh 03-21-2020 11:32 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
So where I am, they have shut down most of the branches of the credit union I belong to, all county buildings are by appointment only, no congregating over 10 people, use of cash is discouraged because Coronavirus might be on the paper money...

We see that travel out of the country is now prohibited.....

There is a message that is being implied that WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....

KeptByTheWord 03-21-2020 11:36 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
If it is some kind of bioweapon warfare why weren't North Korea and Russia also targeted?

Pressing-On 03-21-2020 11:38 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
This article covers the superstitious practices that cause many virus’ that come out of this country. I am with others, we need to quarantine China.

Why Did the Coronavirus Start In China?https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/o...ina-cause.html

Pressing-On 03-21-2020 11:42 AM

Re: What's really going on?
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1583736)
If it is some kind of bioweapon warfare why weren't North Korea and Russia also targeted?

We know that North Korea went on lockdown immediately when they heard about it. The US saw that and emulated their actions. We also don’t know if Russia is keeping things quiet. I did read today they were expelling any Chinese who weren’t complying with quarantines.

I think the natural viruses from their superstitious practices could be used in that way. The Chinese know this is happening. They aren’t stupid. They must allow it to keep their population down. They run everyone’s lives, they know everything everyone is doing. So, you’d have to say they don’t care, and therefore why care if other countries populations die as well?

Nicodemus1968 03-21-2020 12:29 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armapeet.Singh (Post 1583734)
So where I am, they have shut down most of the branches of the credit union I belong to, all county buildings are by appointment only, no congregating over 10 people, use of cash is discouraged because Coronavirus might be on the paper money...

We see that travel out of the country is now prohibited.....

There is a message that is being implied that WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU....

Sir, please tell us when Jesus is coming to set up his Earthly Kingdom to rid us from this Satan led nation!

TJJJ 03-21-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1583746)
Sir, please tell us when Jesus is coming to set up his Earthly Kingdom to rid us from this Satan led nation!

Well, in 1 Zedekiah 3:1 , we see this prophecied.

Michael The Disciple 03-21-2020 12:48 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Forced vaccines? Heard someone saying the vaccine contains aborted babies tissues and when taken makes you one with the internet. Borg anyone?

TGBTG 03-21-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1583748)
Forced vaccines? Heard someone saying the vaccine contains aborted babies tissues and when taken makes you one with the internet. Borg anyone?

:spit

Nicodemus1968 03-21-2020 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1583747)
Well, in 1 Zedekiah 3:1 , we see this prophecied.

I just read that and received the revelation!

consapente89 03-21-2020 03:34 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583692)
I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.

And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.

True.

Birddog 03-21-2020 04:32 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Do you believe that God knows what is going on?

Of course we do.

Is He going to take care of those who have faith in Him?

Of course He is!!!

Esaias 03-21-2020 04:45 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
John Bolton declares China 'responsible' for coronavirus outbreak, says world must hold them 'accountable'

https://www.foxnews.com/world/john-b...em-accountable

Esaias 03-21-2020 04:48 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583692)
I'm concerned that health care will be overwhelmed and we will have an economic collapse, we are so close to accepting communism that it is scary.

And yes I'm scared, I'm clenching my teeth so hard in my sleep that I'm having to wear a bite guard to keep from breaking my teeth.

Psalm 34:1-10 KJV
I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth. [2] My soul shall make her boast in the Lord : the humble shall hear thereof , and be glad. [3] O magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt his name together. [4] I sought the Lord , and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. [5] They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed. [6] This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him , and saved him out of all his troubles. [7] The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. [8] O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. [9] O fear the Lord , ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him. [10] The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing .

Esaias 03-21-2020 04:51 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeindeed (Post 1583695)
I know that you catch a lot of flak here on AFF, but I really appreciate your posts. Please keep sharing with us your findings and analysis.

:thumbsup

Ever since I came to the conclusion a couple days ago I've run across a couple others who share the same thoughts. I am not making predictions but things do look like they are gelling towards a certain direction.

james34 03-21-2020 04:55 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Would this newest strategy not manipulate the statistics to the point where it looks like a higher death rate?

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...434663a0860cdc

I'm already suspect(media and politicians don't have the best record when it comes to honesty or love for anything having to do with God)) then I read this next article and the reporter seems to really be pushing a public panic narrative , ........https://fxn.ws/399a8y2......

(Early Saturday, New York had more than 8,400 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 50 deaths, while the entire U.S. had more than 19,600 confirmed cases and about 250 deaths.

“No, this is not life as usual,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as the death toll in the U.S. topped 200, with at least 35 in his state. “Accept it and realize it and deal with it.”)

Amanah 03-21-2020 05:05 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583780)
:thumbsup

Ever since I came to the conclusion a couple days ago I've run across a couple others who share the same thoughts. I am not making predictions but things do look like they are gelling towards a certain direction.

can you give us a thesis statement, asking nicely.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:21 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
https://www..youtube.com/watch?v=wJlWrJ5JQNE

Nicodemus1968 03-21-2020 05:36 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583777)
John Bolton declares China 'responsible' for coronavirus outbreak, says world must hold them 'accountable'

https://www.foxnews.com/world/john-b...em-accountable

Bolton is a warmonger like Bush & Chaney.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:36 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583786)
can you give us a thesis statement, asking nicely.

Basically that the "global coronavirus pandemic" is a cover story being used to provide cover for a shift in the economy, social activities, and redeployment of critical industries in preparation for a large "east vs west" style war. Via selective reporting, various medical "news stories" are being created whereby people are convinced a pandemic is underway. Blame is beginning to take place, we are blaming China, they are blaming us, to convince people that the other side did something so terrible we will need to go to war over it.

The pandemic provides perfect cover for the controlled crash of the current economic system and replacing it with a wartime economy. People are being conditioned to accept rationing and shortages and control measures. The hoarding panic provided for "emergency stockpiling" of various resources by the population in a short time frame.

Medical cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, and influenza are selectively being identified as Covid19/coronavirus in order to provide authenticity. Just like what happened with HIV/AIDS.

Again, this is just what I currently see as the likely scenario. There are some alternatives, like the pandemic is being used to provide an excuse and a means to transition the global economy to digital biometrics based and global artificial scarcity and control ("the world must come together and make radical changes to save humanity" etc). Or an asteroid is going to hit and all this is to provide cover for the preparations necessary to survive the impact with maximum chances of carrying on. I think that one while low on the totem pole of likelihood may be attempted (as a scare tactic).

Whatever is going on, it isn't quite what everyone is being told.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:38 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1583788)
Bolton is a warmonger like Bush & Chaney.

Yes, that is his job. We'll see if the rhetoric increases or not over the next week or two.

Nicodemus1968 03-21-2020 05:43 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583790)
Yes, that is his job. We'll see if the rhetoric increases or not over the next week or two.

I dont believe everything that comes from Trumps mouth, yet when he said if I listened to Bolton we would’ve been in multiple wars. I do believe that.

Esaias 03-21-2020 05:45 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1583785)
Would this newest strategy not manipulate the statistics to the point where it looks like a higher death rate?

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...434663a0860cdc

I'm already suspect(media and politicians don't have the best record when it comes to honesty or love for anything having to do with God)) then I read this next article and the reporter seems to really be pushing a public panic narrative , ........https://fxn.ws/399a8y2......

(Early Saturday, New York had more than 8,400 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 50 deaths, while the entire U.S. had more than 19,600 confirmed cases and about 250 deaths.

“No, this is not life as usual,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as the death toll in the U.S. topped 200, with at least 35 in his state. “Accept it and realize it and deal with it.”)

According to their own statistics, seasonal flu has a 10% mortality rate (but see note at end). ChinaFlu has about 3-4% in most areas, higher in Italy (ut their health director recently said only about 2-3 out of a thousand deaths were ACTUALLY coronavirus deaths, so...). They have intentionally understated the seriousness of influenza to make corona look worse. But not so bad that people flip out completely and erupt into pandemonium. Controlled fear is used as a mechanism of social control. Pure panic would be uncontrollable. So they take a middle road.

And yes, when you drill into the stats the corona mortality itself is discovered to be way overstated by media and press releases.

Note: Flu - 20,000 confirmed cases, 22,000 confirmed deaths, 36,000,000 ESTIMATED cases. They say flu is less that 1% fatal by comparing confirmed deaths to ESTIMATED cases, and corona is 3-4% fatal by comparing deaths to "confirmed" cases. But if confirmed flu deaths are compared to CONFIRMED cases, the actual mortality is seen to be 10%. Per their own stats. Which are likely total bunk to begin with anyway.

Freeindeed 03-21-2020 05:58 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583789)
Basically that the "global coronavirus pandemic" is a cover story being used to provide cover for a shift in the economy, social activities, and redeployment of critical industries in preparation for a large "east vs west" style war. Via selective reporting, various medical "news stories" are being created whereby people are convinced a pandemic is underway. Blame is beginning to take place, we are blaming China, they are blaming us, to convince people that the other side did something so terrible we will need to go to war over it.

The pandemic provides perfect cover for the controlled crash of the current economic system and replacing it with a wartime economy. People are being conditioned to accept rationing and shortages and control measures. The hoarding panic provided for "emergency stockpiling" of various resources by the population in a short time frame.

Medical cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, and influenza are selectively being identified as Covid19/coronavirus in order to provide authenticity. Just like what happened with HIV/AIDS.

Again, this is just what I currently see as the likely scenario. There are some alternatives, like the pandemic is being used to provide an excuse and a means to transition the global economy to digital biometrics based and global artificial scarcity and control ("the world must come together and make radical changes to save humanity" etc). Or an asteroid is going to hit and all this is to provide cover for the preparations necessary to survive the impact with maximum chances of carrying on. I think that one while low on the totem pole of likelihood may be attempted (as a scare tactic).

Whatever is going on, it isn't quite what everyone is being told.

Thanks for posting. I think that more and more people will begin to question the narrative that has been presented. Once the awakening expands, the powers that be will show their hand.

Freeindeed 03-21-2020 06:44 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583686)
Based on everything I'm seeing, I am about 90% positive there is no Chinese coronavirus doing much of anything whatsoever. Not 100%. I could be completely wrong (my fans can insert their snickers here). I could get into all the details why I think what I think is really going on, and maybe I will if somebody asks nicely.

But here's my current theory: We're on a war footing and most of the world is also. The big WW3 (or whatever number it would actually be). Current sides: Team USA/NATO vs Team China/Iran. One player game though, playing both sides (that's a side issue, though). The "virus" was originally likely (though not certainly) a bio attack in China, followed by another one in Iran. The rest is a manufactured "pandemic" used as cover for war preparations for an existential war. (An existential war is a war where the continued existence of the nation is at risk, think WW1 and WW2, not some brush war or goofy police action like Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)

Just my opinion based on observations and some talks with old timers (80 plus year old timers).

I won't make any recommendations lest anybody have bad dreams at night or panic attacks. Except for this one: Get close and stay close to God. Like soon.

Brother E,

The gentleman in the video below has an interesting take on this coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.facebook.com/NinoBrownMi...?sfnsn=mo&vh=e

Esaias 03-21-2020 07:09 PM

Re: What's really going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeindeed (Post 1583800)
Brother E,

The gentleman in the video below has an interesting take on this coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.facebook.com/NinoBrownMi...?sfnsn=mo&vh=e

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that. I don't know about the "Trump is going after the deep state" angle (see my thread on "Trust the Plan?") But the preacher is right: DO NOT TAKE THE VACCINE.


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