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Esaias 03-23-2020 04:08 AM

What's really going to happen?
 
This is a look at what I believe are some likely scenarios as to what will be happening as a result of the coronascare, and the reasons why.

Because of the growing nationwide shutdown and quarantines, business has cratered. Economists and financiers are saying we are entering a genuine Depression.

Businesses are folding because they have been ordered to close or greatly reduce hours. Plus people staying home or "social distancing" means massive revenue losses for businesses. These businesses cannot pay rents and mortgage payments as a result. So they are going bankrupt or just shutting down.

The property owners and mortgage companies can't get paid from those businesses, so they will go belly up. Investors will lose their money big time. Property owners, lenders, and investors will be wiped out. Property values both commercial and residential will crash with massive numbers of defaults.

Residential rental properties from rent houses to apartments won't make mortgage payments because the renters arent working and earning income and paying rent. Many will be foreclosed and many will be evicted. The investors will be wiped out so there won't be enough to restart that sector after the correction.

So the real estate market may very well literally crash and burn.

That means hedge funds, money market funds, REITs, and insurance companies (all of whom got into the real estate game since 2009) are gonna crash and burn because their investments are vaporising.

People and companies and investment funds that are invested in those hedge funds, etc (like pension funds etc) will crash as well. Your insurance company, retirement fund, and local municipal governments may disappear over the next year. There goes your retirement and health insurance and your local banks too.

More homeless, broke people = no businesses except defense contractors and certain other types.

A HUGE contraction of wealth into a smaller Big Boy Club with a HUGE expansion of poverty and no middle class left to speak of. Literally financial Armageddon the likes of which haven't been seen in over I don't know how many centuries. The Great Depression doesn't compare because of the frailty of the existing system compared to the robustness of the 1920s economic situation.

So...

The global solution to the Great Depression was World War Two.

The entire world can't go on welfare. So the only solution is the tried and proven massive war solution to restart the dying economies of the world.

However, as with all jumpstarts and resets, the new economy will be different.

Robotics and automation will be the wave of the future. Almost all the current US economy is busy work, make work. Burger flippers and tradesmen building places for burger flippers to work at, financial paper traders, "e-commerce" and social media businesses (Instagram influencers, affiliate marketing, etc).

Outsourcing all manufacturing to China or anywhere else but home is now seen as a dangerous thing. I believe manufacturing will return to the US. But not like it was pre-NAFTA. 3D printing, automation, and robotics will feed each other to transform manufacturing into smaller decentralised operations. Think GM parts plants operating out of small private shops instead of a big factory warehouse somewhere.

Unfortunately millions of people will literally be obsolete with little to nothing to offer employers. Burger flippers won't be needed when fast food is 3D printed and served by low level AI bots. Those bots themselves being built by 3D printers.

You can see where this going. I am not the only one who saw automation, AI, robotics, 3D printing as the future wave, long before coronavirus showed up. You can bet the Planners who direct society at the top saw this as well. A huge restructuring of the global economy was in order and now is on the way. Pandemic and war will cull a lot of "useless eaters" (including many seniors whose pensions and retirements will soon be simply deleted off the balance sheets) and trim the fat so to speak. Harsh but that's how the Managing Directors basically see it.

Opportunities for smart individuals: get into 3D printing, robotics, digital solutions, local manufacturing of the types of goods that will be needed. Or become an arms dealer.

Do everything you can to build your family's real wealth: land, food production, self sufficiency, production of necessary goods/services. Get away from 20th century make-work like restauranting, investing in speculative paper assets, or anything that derives income from people who get paid to do last year's make-work or technically unnecessary "service jobs".

Read and understand Deut 8:18 and what it really signifies. And understand wealth is not the same as money. Wealth is PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY, resources: land, food, needed resources. Find the fulcrum and put your hand on THAT.

Esaias 03-23-2020 04:21 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
3D printing is already being done at the nano level by CRISPR edited bacteria. Think about THAT. Grow a Lexus in a petri dish? Or a new lung? Or a movable prosthetic hand with actual nerve interfacing to existing nerves?

Grow an entirely new body? Brain transplant? Cybernetics? "You wanna live forever, with enhancements?"

All this is being worked on NOW.

3D printers build bigger and more complex 3D printers. AI programs code and develop more advanced AI programs. A 3D printer, an AI, and basic CRISPR setup would lead to a self building nano microbe-based cybernetic manufacturing and software development facility.

In your garage.

Birddog 03-23-2020 06:40 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
The coverup on this thing is unreal. The mass manipulation is horrible.

We are seeing a whole new world being created out of fear, which is usually a wrong motivator. The dynamics of the US will not be the same after this.

We saw changes after 9-11. Changes in our travel, in our banking, in surveillance, in life as a whole.

We are seeing changes now where southern California and other places are encouraging neighbors to snitch on neighbors, where drones with loudspeakers and videocams are being used to keep and eye on what is going on.

This thing has turned overnight where the old norms are gone away.

Church has went digital but is now easily controlled by the ones in control, not the one who is teaching or preaching. If they want total silence they just pull the plug or down the internet.

Where it is going to go from here will be interesting, but I don't think things are going to get better from here. Things are going downhill from what we used to know as church.

Amanah 03-23-2020 07:39 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
When the Book of Acts Church was scattered abroad it thrived. Have faith in the body of Christ. We are just warming up. MAYBE being tied to a building and focused on having good "church" is the problem

Amanah 03-23-2020 07:51 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Bro Esaias can give an explanation of how the church is really supposed to function

Amanah 03-23-2020 08:32 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Deuteronomy 1:29-31 King James Version (KJV)
29 Then I said unto you, Dread not, neither be afraid of them.

30 The Lord your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes;

31 And in the wilderness, where thou hast seen how that the Lord thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place.

Nicodemus1968 03-23-2020 09:29 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583967)
When the Book of Acts Church was scattered abroad it thrived. Have faith in the body of Christ. We are just warming up. MAYBE being tied to a building and focused on having good "church" is the problem

:yourock

KeptByTheWord 03-23-2020 12:09 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583959)
3D printing is already being done at the nano level by CRISPR edited bacteria. Think about THAT. Grow a Lexus in a petri dish? Or a new lung? Or a movable prosthetic hand with actual nerve interfacing to existing nerves?

Grow an entirely new body? Brain transplant? Cybernetics? "You wanna live forever, with enhancements?"

All this is being worked on NOW.

3D printers build bigger and more complex 3D printers. AI programs code and develop more advanced AI programs. A 3D printer, an AI, and basic CRISPR setup would lead to a self building nano microbe-based cybernetic manufacturing and software development facility.

In your garage.

A solar flare would wipe out all electronics in a heartbeat, stopping AI in its tracks, and this whole world would grind to a halt. It could happen.

There is no way any of us can predict what lies just on the horizon before us. Only God.

Thanks for sharing your perspective on it all.

diakonos 03-23-2020 01:38 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1583978)
A solar flare would wipe out all electronics in a heartbeat, stopping AI in its tracks, and this whole world would grind to a halt. It could happen.

There is no way any of us can predict what lies just on the horizon before us. Only God.

Thanks for sharing your perspective on it all.

Would an EMP work?

n david 03-23-2020 01:57 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1583980)
Would an EMP work?

Not sure how an Equipment Mounting Plate would do that, unless it's not mounted correctly.


/s :icecream

Barb 03-23-2020 02:18 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1583967)
When the Book of Acts Church was scattered abroad it thrived. Have faith in the body of Christ. We are just warming up. MAYBE being tied to a building and focused on having good "church" is the problem

Yes!!!

Esaias 03-23-2020 04:35 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1583980)
Would an EMP work?

I've heard some experts say that large scale EMP "grid down" effects are not reality. Never looked into it too deeply one way or the other to be honest.

votivesoul 03-23-2020 06:42 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
Not with a revolution but with a "pandemic".

james34 03-23-2020 09:04 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 1583984)
Yes!!!

I see it going this way,not because buildings are bad, but because programs and mainstream religion have filled these places. There is a type of ruling over God's heritage that has no place in the body of Christ. This is what happens when there are untouchables(in-crowd, which I have been a part of) and often the children of the pastor.
This form of erring in judgment (Eli, Hophni and Phinneas come to mind)God will separate from the body. It is a struggle to hold to the truth, never the less it is the passion of the believer's heart and even if the mark is beyond where we are, we still point to it and press for it in full assurance that we will reach it. But to deny that the mark exists or that its location can be discerned and experienced is to cast a stumbling block before Gods children. This stumbling block is an ideological position that removes the existence of "the straight and narrow", leaving the pilgrim on a broad road which can never reach the Heaven that it promises.

KeptByTheWord 03-24-2020 12:22 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1583989)
I've heard some experts say that large scale EMP "grid down" effects are not reality. Never looked into it too deeply one way or the other to be honest.

It's an interesting concept to consider. But just like we are seeing with the current pandemic... things that we consider usually aren't the way it goes down. Who would've thought a virus that kills considerably less than the flu could shut an entire world's economy down in a week?

KeptByTheWord 03-24-2020 12:23 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1583996)
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
This is the way a free-market capitalist democracy ends
Not with a revolution but with a "pandemic".

I hope this is not the "rest of the story", but it very well could be.

KeptByTheWord 03-24-2020 12:24 AM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1584000)
I see it going this way,not because buildings are bad, but because programs and mainstream religion have filled these places. There is a type of ruling over God's heritage that has no place in the body of Christ. This is what happens when there are untouchables(in-crowd, which I have been a part of) and often the children of the pastor.
This form of erring in judgment (Eli, Hophni and Phinneas come to mind)God will separate from the body. It is a struggle to hold to the truth, never the less it is the passion of the believer's heart and even if the mark is beyond where we are, we still point to it and press for it in full assurance that we will reach it. But to deny that the mark exists or that its location can be discerned and experienced is to cast a stumbling block before Gods children. This stumbling block is an ideological position that removes the existence of "the straight and narrow", leaving the pilgrim on a broad road which can never reach the Heaven that it promises.

God always has a way of shaking the branches, and removing things that need to be removed. This is a shaking in our day and time for sure. A good time for all of us to reconnect closer than ever before to the Vine.

diakonos 03-24-2020 05:49 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Operation Desert Storm. People “converted” because it was the end of the world.

Y2K. Backsliders “returned” on Dec 31st 1999 just in time to sell a Honda.

911. It’s the end of the world again...

People show up to escape judgment. Then when judgment doesn’t fall they fizzle out.

In 2-3 weeks this all will be yesterday’s news. On to the next scare.

TGBTG 03-24-2020 05:53 PM

Re: What's really going to happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1584066)
Operation Desert Storm. People “converted” because it was the end of the world.

Y2K. Backsliders “returned” on Dec 31st 1999 just in time to sell a Honda.

911. It’s the end of the world again...

People show up to escape judgment. Then when judgment doesn’t fall they fizzle out.

In 2-3 weeks this all will be yesterday’s news. On to the next scare.

Pretty much. It’s been that way throughout human history.


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