The Beast Is Destroying the Whore
 

Revelation 17
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.



In her (mystery babylon) was traded evry desirable good , even the souls of man.
How?
- The "love" of money is the root of all evil.
- She ruled over the kings of the earth, through this love.
-The very idea of the American dream(get a piece of the pie)is rooted in the idea of this love for money.
-To commit fornication, it is first necessary that there be a previous requirement of faithfulness to something.
-The people of the earth have become drunk with the wine of the wrath of her fornication
...inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication(Revelation 17)
-They (humanity) has left off to be faithful to God, through covetousness, are committing fornication
...Which while some men have coveted after, have pierced themselves through with many foolish and hurtful lusts which do drown men in sin and PERDITION.

Capitalism where God is first works wonderfully.
Capitalism, to the extent that it becomes ones driving force in life(God is left out) , does 2 things.
1)it makes men free from economic tyranny (this is unacceptable to socialistic views and must be destroyed)
This is why the kings of the earth will hate her and destroy her
The economy of the whole world is being brought to its knees, but that wont be enough. It must be redesigned.
2)It (capitalism) can become the means by which men can be, not just made rich, but shown the possibility of being rich(as an answer to all of life's issues) this can be a stumbling block that drawns men away from God, as they put their trust in uncertain riches, and become fornicators in the spiritual sense in turning from God.

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I believe trying to pinpoint EXACTLY where we are in prophecy is highly speculative. Having said that, I tend to believe what we call "the New World Order" is a creation of the Babylonian system currently in place, which will be overthrown by the Republics of Europe (and the Commonwealth nations possibly assisting?) in order to set up the next big thing. The world has been primed to support an overthrow of the System due to mass corruption, "the Deep State/elites/Illuminati" etc. The New World Order is odious to the masses (except for brainwashed progressive communists), it's set up to be swept away willingly in exchange for a "real" system. That system will likely involve a traditional Roman catholic-led traditionalist European movement. The next pope will "Make Europe Great Again".

But this is all just speculation on my part.

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This sounded like a cheap movie title for a B movie!��

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LoL! :heeheehee

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Reminds me of when Jezebel fell out the window.

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10 kings will unite to burn America with fire. The beast (man of sin) will unite them to burn her with fire. While I agree with your premise about greed, I believe "fornication" is literal. Sexual immorality is the god of America.

As to when this will happen I dont know. It SEEMS as if it would be while America is still the strongest economic power as per Rev. 18.

If this version is accurate there will first come a slaughter of Christians here so that the blood of apostles and saints is found in her.

Just my speculation.

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You still haven't moved? Tsk, tsk.

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I thought Israel was the whore. Maybe it’s the Catholic Church....

:runhills

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I haven't heard that before about the NWO being currently in place.
Interesting theory.

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A book that was recommended to me by another preacher over ten years ago is called, "Intoxicated With Babylon " it talks about the whole world system is Babylon who daily shakes their dust at God and says you are not real and even if you are, we don't need you nor are we accountable. He talks about how Babylon and its philosophy is slowly creeping into the Churches.

You should give it a read.

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Well the NWO is simply the proposed next stage of the current system. Thus people often say "Nothing new about the New World Order."

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So are we starting this discussion with Bible or speculation? Just curious.

Are you saying that the whore is the US or ......?

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So who is the whore and what is the beast?

How do we know what eats who if we can't identify them?

Otherwise this is just confusion and speculation.

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So let me look at this deeper.

You are saying that the whore is capitalism.....

And the beast is the deep state NWO.

The Beast / NWO is going to destroy the whore/capitalism and we are left with ......?

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John the revelator wrote the letters to the church’s 2000 years ago to warn those church’s about the NWO and Capitalism. The JW’s and the Mormons would be jealous because they didn’t think of that first.

:heeheehee

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Something is not right here .....

Just saying.

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Speculation. It is easier to fall back on, "well, I said it could be..."

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Who are you asking and why in the world would anybody answer you? Aren't you guy who speculates that Jesus dissolved in midair and the church is now Christ? pfft.

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Hold on there. You posted yesterday God the spirit is in us, and Human Jesus is in heaven.

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Hold on to what?

God is a Spirit (that's what Jesus said). And Jesus is a resurrected man, and Jesus is also God manifest in flesh. Jesus is in Heaven.

So what am I holding on for? I don't hear any elevator music....

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:thumbsup

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I agree, I was in a McDonalds parking lot in Missouri when I started this thread.
When I got home I read the title and it was really hard to take it seriously for a moment.
I told my wife, there is no telling what people are thinking.
The title is a little unnecessarily strong for my taste, but I only have me to blame.

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Well, obviously I was asking the guy that started the thread. Calm down grasshopper.

Stay on track and let him answer.

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And you are nothing but a two godder.....

the father and the son.

Just like a JW or a LDS?

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Where’s the popcorn when you need it!

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It is definitely speculation from my studies, (of the bible)my opinion....so both. I'm certainly not stuck on this school of thought, and if the truth goes somewhere in disagreement with my opinion , then I am just wrong.
Mostly wanted to get this out there just because I knew there would be a wealth of knowledge on AFF. Always good to consider different perspectives.

....and I do strongly lean toward the US being the economic Babylon....We are the only country that has made all other countries rich.

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No problem, it just tickled my funny bone. I needed a laugh today. We all do.😀

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Whore=US
Beast=Satan/devil/Lucifer
Ten kings=10 government leadership positions(as kings) who allow the power of their position, whether it be through proclamation of wars, or legislation of laws to be used in accordance with Satans agenda.
Satan has no use for the whore/economic US after a certain point and will then destroy her. That certain point is to get humanity to turn from God by getting their eyes on economic prosperity through covetousness. Once the nation has turned from God(as a whole, and the US has) then the onslaught of immorality increases (which has happened) then the beast will deal with the vulnerable faithless people through policy.
Namely he will push toward a point where he will be worshipped as God. 2 Thessalonians
This means also that no religion(Islam, buddhism or christianity will be tolerated)
Now the only true religion is Christianity and will certainly be stamped out(or at least the devil will think to do so through persecution) , whether it be internet live stream or home church.....we just love not our lives unto death.

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1 John 2:22-23 KJV
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also .

John 5:22-23 KJV
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: [23] That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

1 John 5:11-12 KJV
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. [12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

2 John 1:9-11 KJV
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. [10] If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: [11] For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

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James,
Can God tell time?

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Are you trying to explain the doctrine of Two Gods?

This is elementary my dear Watson, there is One God Jesus Christ. The father is not separate from the son, for they are one! Not 2 in one, they are one.

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I think so

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Can a question be loaded?

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I have no idea what your going on about. If you think believing in the Father and the Son = two gods, you're either Biblically illiterate or a flaming heretic.

Of course there is only One God, and He is JESUS CHRIST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INePssYGlME

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Great song...I really enjoyed it this morning. I grew up listening to this kind of music.

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You do believe in two Gods. You are a two godder.

The Christ, the flesh, the man, was not God.

Jesus is God. Jesus, God, the Father, was in the flesh, the Christ the son.

Remember.... 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing their trespasses to them; and hath committed to us the word of reconciliation.

You have made the flesh, the son, a god. You are as guilty as Teklemarian and his divine flesh heresy.

I know that this is hard for you as everything is physical and you have difficulty with the spiritual but you need to understand what you believe is false. Sorry.

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You beat me to it. I was going to ask the reason for the human body up in heaven if he believes in One God.

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And you don't believe in the Son, you don't have the Son, you dissolved Him as He ascended. Let me guess, no Scripture for what you claim, right? Not needed? Cause you got spiritshul insahtz?

:spit

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What we have now is the sonship which is the body of Christ.

Want Scripture for it?

The sonship. Just as the Christ was not God because he was flesh inhabited by God, we also do not become gods as the Holy Ghost infills us. but we partake of the sonship when we are born again.

Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The Church is named the body of Christ.

Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

There is only one Body of Christ. One, count it, ONE!

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Where is that Body Esaias? Where does Paul say that the body is?

So much for your smashta or whatever word you created to spew out.