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Originalist 07-16-2020 09:44 AM

Apostolic candidate for Congress (TV Ad)
 
Ryan Chamberlin has been a member of Souls Harbor in Belleview, Florida since childhood. He is seeking the GOP nomination in Florida District 3 to replace the retiring Ted Yoho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZNKJCTrjM

Nicodemus1968 07-16-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1589784)
Ryan Chamberlin has been a member of Souls Harbor in Belleview, Florida since childhood. He is seeking the GOP nomination in Florida District 3 to replace the retiring Ted Yoho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZNKJCTrjM

An apostolic with a TV ad, that’s ironic.

MawMaw 07-16-2020 11:49 AM

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I would sure vote for him! I hope he wins!! :fireworks

diakonos 07-16-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1589785)
An apostolic with a TV ad, that’s ironic.

No. A high percentage own tv’s now.

Nicodemus1968 07-16-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1589807)
No. A high percentage own tv’s now.

I guess your right.

Evang.Benincasa 07-16-2020 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1589784)
Ryan Chamberlin has been a member of Souls Harbor in Belleview, Florida since childhood. He is seeking the GOP nomination in Florida District 3 to replace the retiring Ted Yoho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZNKJCTrjM

More like, Let's Make Israel Great Again. :thumbsup

jediwill83 07-16-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1589821)
More like, Let's Make Israel Great Again. :thumbsup


Well...if they were sons of Abraham they would be doing the works of Abraham would they not?

Evang.Benincasa 07-16-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1589827)
Well...if they were sons of Abraham they would be doing the works of Abraham would they not?

Imagine that. :)

Originalist 07-16-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1589821)
More like, Let's Make Israel Great Again. :thumbsup

What makes you say that?

Evang.Benincasa 07-16-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1589840)
What makes you say that?

Ask him about his position on Israel.

Esaias 07-17-2020 08:20 AM

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I'm sure the guy means well. But then so do most liberals.

I don't understand why anyone still thinks "voting" is anything other than a completely untrustworthy scam? There is simply zero reason whatsoever to think public voting has any actual effect on anything other than maybe who's gonna be dog catcher in a rural community? Any election that uses voting machines is completely untrustworthy and unverifiable.

returnman 07-17-2020 02:12 PM

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The gun thing was kind of cheesy but will make me remember. Good supportive wife however and kind of thing to drive a Femi-nazi insane.

Esaias 07-17-2020 07:36 PM

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NATIONAL SECURITY
This is the first priority of the federal government, and I embrace the T.R. Roosevelt doctrine of “walk softly but carry a big stick.” Our allies must trust us and our enemies fear us. I will advocate for funding the world’s strongest, most well-equipped military with an updated mission of guarding our borders.

...

“President Trump is in the fight of his life for re-election, and we need conservatives across Florida and America to get out to vote,” said candidate Ryan Chamberlin. “But his re-election means nothing if we do not have conservatives in charge of Congress. We must once again control all three branches of government if we are to pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity.”

From https://ryanchamberlin.com

1. He says the number 1 priority of the federal government is national security. The Declaration of Independence however says this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

America was founded on the idea that the number 1 priority of government was to secure the RIGHTS of the people, not "national security" - which is just another way of saying State Security. Mr Chamberlin is politically opposed to the fundamental tenet of Americanism and the basic foundational premise of the American Revolution. Thus he is politically UNAMERICAN and is a counterrevolutionary.

Further, the American Founders deplored a standing professional military. Several states explicitly denounce standing militaries in their state constitutions. Mr Chamberlin is a neocon Military-Industrial statist, not a pro-American champion of freedom and liberty.

Moreover, as a professing Christian, he is committing treason against the King, Jesus Christ, who in His Word has declared the primary duty of government is to submit to Christ, punish evil, and reward good - ie to OBEY GOD AS AN EXPLICITLY CHRISTIAN BIBLE-DIRECTED INSTITUTION.

2. He argues that if Republicans control the House, Senate, and the Executive, they will "pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity." Yet the Republicans HAVE been in control of both the Executive and the Congress before, and have accomplished exactly zilch. Anyone with two brain cells can see that so it is obvious he is a typical pandering lying party-hack politician.

jediwill83 07-17-2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
NATIONAL SECURITY
This is the first priority of the federal government, and I embrace the T.R. Roosevelt doctrine of “walk softly but carry a big stick.” Our allies must trust us and our enemies fear us. I will advocate for funding the world’s strongest, most well-equipped military with an updated mission of guarding our borders.

...

“President Trump is in the fight of his life for re-election, and we need conservatives across Florida and America to get out to vote,” said candidate Ryan Chamberlin. “But his re-election means nothing if we do not have conservatives in charge of Congress. We must once again control all three branches of government if we are to pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity.”

From https://ryanchamberlin.com

1. He says the number 1 priority of the federal government is national security. The Declaration of Independence however says this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

America was founded on the idea that the number 1 priority of government was to secure the RIGHTS of the people, not "national security" - which is just another way of saying State Security. Mr Chamberlin is politically opposed to the fundamental tenet of Americanism and the basic foundational premise of the American Revolution. Thus he is politically UNAMERICAN and is a counterrevolutionary.

Further, the American Founders deplored a standing professional military. Several states explicitly denounce standing militaries in their state constitutions. Mr Chamberlin is a neocon Military-Industrial statist, not a pro-American champion of freedom and liberty.

Moreover, as a professing Christian, he is committing treason against the King, Jesus Christ, who in His Word has declared the primary duty of government is to submit to Christ, punish evil, and reward good - ie to OBEY GOD AS AN EXPLICITLY CHRISTIAN BIBLE-DIRECTED INSTITUTION.

2. He argues that if Republicans control the House, Senate, and the Executive, they will "pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity." Yet the Republicans HAVE been in control of both the Executive and the Congress before, and have accomplished exactly zilch. Anyone with two brain cells can see that so it is obvious he is a typical pandering lying party-hack politician.



Just another person wanting position and power.
Great men are seldom good men.

Jito463 07-18-2020 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
NATIONAL SECURITY
This is the first priority of the federal government, and I embrace the T.R. Roosevelt doctrine of “walk softly but carry a big stick.” Our allies must trust us and our enemies fear us. I will advocate for funding the world’s strongest, most well-equipped military with an updated mission of guarding our borders.

...

“President Trump is in the fight of his life for re-election, and we need conservatives across Florida and America to get out to vote,” said candidate Ryan Chamberlin. “But his re-election means nothing if we do not have conservatives in charge of Congress. We must once again control all three branches of government if we are to pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity.”

From https://ryanchamberlin.com

Just gonna keep this here for reference.

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
1. He says the number 1 priority of the federal government is national security. The Declaration of Independence however says this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

America was founded on the idea that the number 1 priority of government was to secure the RIGHTS of the people, not "national security" - which is just another way of saying State Security. Mr Chamberlin is politically opposed to the fundamental tenet of Americanism and the basic foundational premise of the American Revolution. Thus he is politically UNAMERICAN and is a counterrevolutionary.

I'd ask him for clarification on where he stands on rights, rather than just lambasting him because you don't like his wording. National security doesn't preclude securing our rights, though often it does seem like they're at odds with each other.

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
Further, the American Founders deplored a standing professional military. Several states explicitly denounce standing militaries in their state constitutions. Mr Chamberlin is a neocon Military-Industrial statist, not a pro-American champion of freedom and liberty.

In this day and age, not having a standing army is just asking the other governments to attack us. What do you propose as an alternative?

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
Moreover, as a professing Christian, he is committing treason against the King, Jesus Christ, who in His Word has declared the primary duty of government is to submit to Christ, punish evil, and reward good - ie to OBEY GOD AS AN EXPLICITLY CHRISTIAN BIBLE-DIRECTED INSTITUTION.

I fail to see how what he said is in opposition to that. Can you clarify what you mean?

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589920)
2. He argues that if Republicans control the House, Senate, and the Executive, they will "pass important reforms and put America on a path to permanent prosperity." Yet the Republicans HAVE been in control of both the Executive and the Congress before, and have accomplished exactly zilch. Anyone with two brain cells can see that so it is obvious he is a typical pandering lying party-hack politician.

Actually, his exact words (which you quoted above) was "conservatives", not Republicans. While we typically associate conservatism with the Republican party, we all know there are plenty of leftist Republicans out there, just itching to go along with the Dems (e.g. McCain).

Look, I know nothing about this guy, apart from what was posted here, but if we're going to talk about him, let's at least do it honestly.

Originalist 07-18-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1589949)
Just gonna keep this here for reference.


I'd ask him for clarification on where he stands on rights, rather than just lambasting him because you don't like his wording. National security doesn't preclude securing our rights, though often it does seem like they're at odds with each other.


In this day and age, not having a standing army is just asking the other governments to attack us. What do you propose as an alternative?


I fail to see how what he said is in opposition to that. Can you clarify what you mean?



Actually, his exact words (which you quoted above) was "conservatives", not Republicans. While we typically associate conservatism with the Republican party, we all know there are plenty of leftist Republicans out there, just itching to go along with the Dems (e.g. McCain).

Look, I know nothing about this guy, apart from what was posted here, but if we're going to talk about him, let's at least do it honestly.

Esaias has an incredible gift of knowing everything about everybody. Perhaps he did not consider that Ryan's reference to national security had more to do with the border than anything. When you have an open border and anarchy reigning in major cities, that is indeed the time to focus on national security lest we are overthrown by a mob that hates the Declaration of Independence that Esaias cited.

Esaias 07-18-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1589949)
Just gonna keep this here for reference.


I'd ask him for clarification on where he stands on rights, rather than just lambasting him because you don't like his wording. National security doesn't preclude securing our rights, though often it does seem like they're at odds with each other.


In this day and age, not having a standing army is just asking the other governments to attack us. What do you propose as an alternative?


I fail to see how what he said is in opposition to that. Can you clarify what you mean?



Actually, his exact words (which you quoted above) was "conservatives", not Republicans. While we typically associate conservatism with the Republican party, we all know there are plenty of leftist Republicans out there, just itching to go along with the Dems (e.g. McCain).

Look, I know nothing about this guy, apart from what was posted here, but if we're going to talk about him, let's at least do it honestly.

The Founding generation abhorred the idea of a standing army (which is why the Constitution only authorizes a navy and assumes the existence of the civilian militia). The Founders believed the prime directive of government was to secure the God-given rights of the populace (rights given by the CHRISTIAN God). This candidate, like all modern so called "conservatives", does not support or champion those ideas, as clearly proven by his own campaign website. He feels the primary duty of government is state security, er, "national security", and fully supports a standing army bigger and badder than any other in the world.

Therefore, the guy is not in line with the fundamentally American political philosophy as enumerated by our founding documents and as explicated by the statements and policies of the Founders.

Side note regarding defending against foreign attack:

1. We have the biggest and most powerful national security apparatus the world has ever known. And here we are in the midst of a foreign directed communist revolutionary overthrow of the last vestiges of what was once America. So how's that national security been working out for us?

2. No nation has or could have the logistical capacity to effect a successful foreign invasion of the CONUS. Our geography alone guarantees that. Moreover, the Founders' riginal system called for civilian militia - every able bodied male trained and equipped with arms organized in local units under local control - as the primary defense against invasion AND INSURRECTION. A well regulated militia renders a standing army moot. Too bad hardly nobody in America has any interest in the Original Ideas.

3. Subversive communists maintain the Constitution is outdated. Conservatives agree. Thus, "the world is different now, so we gotta do things contrary to the Constitution now..." No real difference between liberals and conservatives, only the speed at which each group is trying to change (subvert) the nation.

Regarding his statements vs the Bible: if the primary duty of government is obedience to God and upholding righteousness, then it is NOT "national security" and having the most powerful army. A Christian who says "the main duty of government is..." and fails to even mention the Lordship of Christ is clearly not a serious and genuine Christian. At best they are wholly ignorant of God's view of government and THEREFORE have NO business being in government. They have committed treason against Christ by denying His authority and siding with His enemies who claim He has no say so in governance.

Conservatives haven't conserved anything. They aren't the future. Sorry.

Esaias 07-18-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1589951)
Esaias has an incredible gift of knowing everything about everybody. Perhaps he did not consider that Ryan's reference to national security had more to do with the border than anything. When you have an open border and anarchy reigning in major cities, that is indeed the time to focus on national security lest we are overthrown by a mob that hates the Declaration of Independence that Esaias cited.

I have an incredible gift of simple reading comprehension. "Ryan" is like all other conservatives, and just like Trump: all tweet and no action. The conservatives don't care about the border anymore than Trump does. Otherwise they'd have actually done something about it long ago.

It has been said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. Conservatives are insane by that definition.

Esaias 07-18-2020 06:33 PM

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Note about the standing army: the Constitution authorises a temporary raising of an army (federalised militia), not a permanent structure.

Of course, the Constitution itself contains numerous loopholes designed to continue the Royal commercial operation using the newly created federal government as it's tool of oppression.

Just like they did in Ireland, by the way.

Originalist 07-18-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589960)
I have an incredible gift of simple reading comprehension. "Ryan" is like all other conservatives, and just like Trump: all tweet and no action. The conservatives don't care about the border anymore than Trump does. Otherwise they'd have actually done something about it long ago.

It has been said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. Conservatives are insane by that definition.

Oh, I think Ryan does care......now. I've already warned him about the "talking to" he will receive once he gets to Congress. But in the end, looking for any Federal solution is vain.

Evang.Benincasa 07-18-2020 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589871)
I'm sure the guy means well. But then so do most liberals.

I don't understand why anyone still thinks "voting" is anything other than a completely untrustworthy scam? There is simply zero reason whatsoever to think public voting has any actual effect on anything other than maybe who's gonna be dog catcher in a rural community? Any election that uses voting machines is completely untrustworthy and unverifiable.

If voting changed anything it would be illegal.

MawMaw 07-20-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1589871)
I'm sure the guy means well. But then so do most liberals.

I don't understand why anyone still thinks "voting" is anything other than a completely untrustworthy scam? There is simply zero reason whatsoever to think public voting has any actual effect on anything other than maybe who's gonna be dog catcher in a rural community? Any election that uses voting machines is completely untrustworthy and unverifiable.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1589968)
If voting changed anything it would be illegal.

So, you guys don't vote?

diakonos 07-20-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1590020)
So, you guys don't vote?

They used to vote for Ron Paul. :lol

Esaias 07-20-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1590025)
They used to vote for Ron Paul. :lol

i also campaigned for Ron Paul, and served as GOP precinct committee chairman. My time in the innards of the Republican party has taught me about the efficacy of "voting" in the current climate.

Evang.Benincasa 07-21-2020 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1590020)
So, you guys don't vote?

I only have two choices.

Bad to worse

The choice between two evils is still evil.
Corperations run this country, those who have the power and pull.
American Express just cut the wages of their employees who were making the most by 50%. I don’t hear any politicians banging the tin drum to cry foul. Nope, the CEOs of that company will not go hungry. No politician will run to anyone’s aid. Do I vote? No, I live in Broward County, and that alone should tell the story.

Originalist 07-21-2020 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1590027)
i also campaigned for Ron Paul, and served as GOP precinct committee chairman. My time in the innards of the Republican party has taught me about the efficacy of "voting" in the current climate.

Ron Paul was cheated several times.

Jito463 07-21-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1590049)
Ron Paul was cheated several times.

Ron Paul was a loon.

returnman 07-21-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1590048)
I only have two choices.

Bad to worse

The choice between two evils is still evil.
Corperations run this country, those who have the power and pull.
American Express just cut the wages of their employees who were making the most by 50%. I don’t hear any politicians banging the tin drum to cry foul. Nope, the CEOs of that company will not go hungry. No politician will run to anyone’s aid. Do I vote? No, I live in Broward County, and that alone should tell the story.

I worked in aerospace for 15 years. Yes there where layoffs, big paid execs, but a lot of folks made a good living working there as well as the big three in Detroit.

Esaias 07-21-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1590067)
Ron Paul was a loon.

Ron Paul was a trojan horse.

Originalist 07-21-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1590078)
Ron Paul was a trojan horse.

Wow. Even Ron Paul? You really do believe they are all actors, don't you?

Originalist 07-21-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1590067)
Ron Paul was a loon.

We all have our opinions.

diakonos 07-21-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1590080)
Wow. Even Ron Paul? You really do believe they are all actors, don't you?

:lol

Nicodemus1968 07-21-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1590080)
Wow. Even Ron Paul? You really do believe they are all actors, don't you?

Like Bro. Benincasa said, if voting made a difference it would be illegal.

Esaias 07-21-2020 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1590080)
Wow. Even Ron Paul? You really do believe they are all actors, don't you?

I worked for his campaign as a grassroots organizer and convention delegate. He sabotaged his own campaign intentionally. Both times.

Esaias 07-21-2020 04:34 PM

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Folks, it's a rigged game, like at a carnival or a casino. The game depends on enough people thinking they really do have a chance at winning, that the lovely folks running the game are really just nice people who want the players to win.

Yet time and history prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that is not at all what is going on. Don't be so gullible.

Evang.Benincasa 07-21-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1590089)
I worked for his campaign as a grassroots organizer and convention delegate. He sabotaged his own campaign intentionally. Both times.

:thumbsup :yourock

Bowas 07-21-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1590090)
Folks, it's a rigged game, like at a carnival or a casino. The game depends on enough people thinking they really do have a chance at winning, that the lovely folks running the game are really just nice people who want the players to win.

Yet time and history prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that is not at all what is going on. Don't be so gullible.

Are you suggesting, you think Trump got in by design of the establishment? That is really quite a stretch.

Evang.Benincasa 07-21-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1590090)
Folks, it's a rigged game, like at a carnival or a casino. The game depends on enough people thinking they really do have a chance at winning, that the lovely folks running the game are really just nice people who want the players to win.

Yet time and history prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that is not at all what is going on. Don't be so gullible.

My brother, we are the ones who constantly yell that the emperor has no clothes. Well, we who discuss different doctrines over the years know better than anyone. What we are told (no matter how far fetched) is accepted and protected with every once of blood. War is a racket? Did everyone listen Smedley D. Butler, United States Marine Corps Major General and two-time Medal of Honor recipient? No way, it is only a small remnant, a mere handful of people who are able to see the light. Who know the history, and how those in power couldn't give a rat's hind end for the huddled masses. Was Edward Bernays wrong for teaching the power elites how to manipulate the rank and file? No, because Edward Bernays didn't reinvent the wheel, sending people to die for noble cause isn't new. Machiavelli, understood the rulers only want one thing, to be on top of the heap. Whether that is religious, or political, please don't get me wrong, there are men of honor, noble, and true. yet, they are soon devoured by the wolves in sheep's clothing. How could the three buildings fall down into their own footprint on 9/11? Never has it happened in all skyscraper history, but the facts never will be an issue to the true believer. The rulers know this, and no matter how much we blow or tin horn, and beat our tin drums doesn't matter. People are destined to follow without question. It's the bad machine who sees the emperor, and warns others that the emperor has no clothes.

Evang.Benincasa 07-21-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by returnman (Post 1590076)
I worked in aerospace for 15 years. Yes there where layoffs, big paid execs, but a lot of folks made a good living working there as well as the big three in Detroit.

I bet everyone at American Express who are getting a 50% pay cut are comforted by your words.

I didn't know returnman was a spiderbot? :heeheehee

Esaias 07-21-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 1590094)
Are you suggesting, you think Trump got in by design of the establishment? That is really quite a stretch.

Seriously? You don't think it's "quite a stretch" that a New York billionaire in the casino business and tv entertainment business with life-long mob connections, ties to Epstein, long time friends with the Clintons and other known corruptocrats, etc is somehow NOT part of the establishment? Seriously?

It's a "stretch" to think that Trump - who stuffed his cabinet with known and proven "deep state assets" and who has miraculously failed to deliver on any of his campaign promises - might be just another typical establishment tool?

I mean... I just literally don't know where to go from there. It's like being told "Thinking Obama is some sort of establishment hack is quite a stretch".


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