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Originalist 11-29-2020 12:03 PM

Trump can't leave office
 
Delta Force/CIA shootout in Germany? We have the server?

The problem is, time is not on our side. December 12 is in the Constitution. The Electoral College must meet on that day. But if it takes until December 19, for example, to adequately compile and present all the evidence that Trump is privy to, then what? What if the SCOTUS declines to hear the case because "we don't have enough time?"

Perhaps they are actually trying to force Trump to take executive action so they can have an excuse for a forced deep-state removal. Time for millions of armed patriots to take D.C.

diakonos 11-29-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1596870)
Perhaps they are actually trying to force Trump to take executive action so they can have an excuse for a forced deep-state removal. Time for millions of armed patriots to take D.C.

So, when are you going?

Originalist 11-29-2020 01:00 PM

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So, when are you going?

When a well-regulated militia announces plans to do so. Leaderless armies are not armies at all.

CC1 11-29-2020 02:14 PM

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Insanity. The man lost the election but his ego won't let him admit it Sadly his rabid followers believe every wild accusation he throws out there. Courts are another story as they actually require evidence and proof and that is why the meritless lawsuits have gone nowhere.

Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss. Time to move on and work toward keeping control of the Senate by winning the two GA Senate races then concentrate on retaking control of the House in 2022.

Originalist 11-29-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Insanity. The man lost the election but his ego won't let him admit it Sadly his rabid followers believe every wild accusation he throws out there. Courts are another story as they actually require evidence and proof and that is why the meritless lawsuits have gone nowhere.

Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss. Time to move on and work toward keeping control of the Senate by winning the two GA Senate races then concentrate on retaking control of the House in 2022.

The insanity is on YOUR part. Anyone who thinks Biden actually won this election is willfully ignorant or self-deceived. Recounts? Are you serious?

Originalist 11-29-2020 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Insanity. The man lost the election but his ego won't let him admit it Sadly his rabid followers believe every wild accusation he throws out there. Courts are another story as they actually require evidence and proof and that is why the meritless lawsuits have gone nowhere.

Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss. Time to move on and work toward keeping control of the Senate by winning the two GA Senate races then concentrate on retaking control of the House in 2022.

I would like for you to tell me, was this frivolous? Was this judge wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMQ9a2mlsRw&t=1391s

MawMaw 11-29-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Insanity. The man lost the election but his ego won't let him admit it Sadly his rabid followers believe every wild accusation he throws out there. Courts are another story as they actually require evidence and proof and that is why the meritless lawsuits have gone nowhere.

Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss. Time to move on and work toward keeping control of the Senate by winning the two GA Senate races then concentrate on retaking control of the House in 2022.

Mr. Trump has not lost the election. And, I am not a rabid follower that believes whatever's thrown out. I especially do NOT trust main stream media at ALL!!

The majority of Americans KNOW this election was rigged from the get go. No if, ands, or buts about it! Mr. Trump would have won by a landslide (and actually did) had all those fraudulent votes and voters not been allowed to get through.

I hope they fight continue fighting. Praying God's will be done.

Evang.Benincasa 11-29-2020 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Insanity. The man lost the election but his ego won't let him admit it Sadly his rabid followers believe every wild accusation he throws out there.

I totally understand this take away. Absolutely, but one must keep in mind a bigger picture. One that has the Donald having to fight off a media machine and liberals even before he was sworn in 4 years ago. Let's be objective, let's just stand back from the chessboard and ask, what is the point of this theatre? What is actually happening? Is it just the Donald throwing a tantrum? Did a man who is literally falling apart from dementia, or early onset of Parkinson's disease get the most votes of any president in history? Especially since his running mate was so disliked by her own party? I understand that there are they "as long as it's not Trump" voters. Who would vote for Satan and Mystery Babylon just as long as it isn't the Donald. I get that, but obviously there is something else going on? Brazil's President Bolsonaro even follows this whole idea of a rigged election. Is the president of Brazil also a rabid follower of the Donald?

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Courts are another story as they actually require evidence and proof and that is why the meritless lawsuits have gone nowhere.

That's another thing. Where are you getting your information from? Where is Pressing On getting her information from? See what I mean?

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss.

Again, says who? Listen I would love to light the fires to chase everyone up into the windmill with torches and pitchforks. But, there is just way too much going on. You may be right, Trump hands down lost fair and square. We may have Creepy Uncle Hair Sniffing Joe Biden for one year and kackling Kamala Harris with her vice president Hillary Clinton for three years. That could happen. But don't you think we should wait it all out until January? Wouldn't we have been able by that time to see that time proved all things? Instead of you coming on here and trying to do an imitation of me? Then have some poster snivel about how he or she doesn't like to post on here anymore? Because no one wants to talk about how Old Tyme Pennycost preached against them playing Scrabble when they were children?

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Time to move on and work toward keeping control of the Senate by winning the two GA Senate races then concentrate on retaking control of the House in 2022.

Move on? :heeheehee

I'm real sorry CC1, but sad to say the United States is a political mess, and both sides are mentally bankrupt. Even Edward Bernays would be alerting us to wake up. But we don't mind what our politicians do to us, just as long as they are our favorite shade of blue or red. Hey, seriously, you and I probably won't even have to worry about any of this. It will all be dumped (as history always proves out) on our grandchildren's lap. They might even ask why we allowed it to all happen? History may just tell them "because when they saw what kind of ice cream Nancy Pelosi was eating? They ran out and bought the same brand!"

:happydance

Evang.Benincasa 11-29-2020 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1596889)
Mr. Trump has not lost the election. And, I am not a rabid follower that believes whatever's thrown out. I especially do NOT trust main stream media at ALL!!

The majority of Americans KNOW this election was rigged from the get go. No if, ands, or buts about it! Mr. Trump would have won by a landslide (and actually did) had all those fraudulent votes and voters not been allowed to get through.

I hope they fight continue fighting. Praying God's will be done.

You tell him MawMaw!

Hope PawPaw is doing way better now! :thumbsup

MawMaw 11-29-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1596891)
You tell him MawMaw!

Hope PawPaw is doing way better now! :thumbsup

Yes, PawPaw is sooooo much better now! Thanks for asking.

But, do keep Pop (PawPaw's Dad) in your prayers. He is back in the hospital.
Not, from Covid, but from horrible swelling in his legs. He's nearly 91 and he has congestive heart failure among other problems. :(

Evang.Benincasa 11-29-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1596893)
Yes, PawPaw is sooooo much better now! Thanks for asking.

But, do keep Pop (PawPaw's Dad) in your prayers. He is back in the hospital.
Not, from Covid, but from horrible swelling in his legs. He's nearly 91 and he has congestive heart failure among other problems. :(

Legs swelling is usually the heart. Tell pop we all will be praying for him in Jesus name.

Evang.Benincasa 11-29-2020 10:11 PM

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For Originalist and CC1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37N0...AcademyofIdeas

MawMaw 11-30-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1596894)
Legs swelling is usually the heart. Tell pop we all will be praying for him in Jesus name.

Thank you brother! ❤️

n david 12-03-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1596878)
Not to mention the recounts have only confirmed Trump's loss.

Anyone know what you get when you just recount improper ballots? Of course it's the same result. The issue isn't the count. The issue is the improper ballots being counted.

We don't need a recount of the ballots, we need an audit of the ballots.

Esaias 12-03-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1597114)
Anyone know what you get when you just recount improper ballots? Of course it's the same result. The issue isn't the count. The issue is the improper ballots being counted.

We don't need a recount of the ballots, we need an audit of the ballots.

These people are willingly ignorant of the most basic concepts. Almost like they are non player characters in a video game....

Originalist 12-03-2020 03:14 PM

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Trump should simply invoke the Insurrection Act and not leave until this is all cleared up.

Esaias 12-03-2020 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597120)
Trump should simply invoke the Insurrection Act and not leave until this is all cleared up.

Rubicon Don!!

Originalist 12-03-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597121)
Rubicon Don!!

Why do you keep saying that? He's trying to save the republic. Biden is the one trying to cross the Rubicon and become Ceasar. In Rome, a Consul could make himself dictator in emergency situations. I am not even advocating that. I am saying you don't just hand the country over to the coup plotters.

Esaias 12-03-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597126)
Why do you keep saying that? He's trying to save the republic. Biden is the one trying to cross the Rubicon and become Ceasar. In Rome, a Consul could make himself dictator in emergency situations. I am not even advocating that. I am saying you don't just hand the country over to the coup plotters.

I'm saying that because there are increasing calls for Trump to declare martial law and just round up the traitors and git er dun. General Flynn recently joined in the chorus for martial law.

Martial law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. So, to "save the Republic" the republic gets destroyed by a final stroke?

No matter who is in the White House come January, this country will never be the same.

Evang.Benincasa 12-03-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597126)
Why do you keep saying that? He's trying to save the republic. Biden is the one trying to cross the Rubicon and become Ceasar. In Rome, a Consul could make himself dictator in emergency situations. I am not even advocating that. I am saying you don't just hand the country over to the coup plotters.

Bro, do you even know why Julius Caesar wanted to cross the Rubicon? He believed, as did his men, that he was saving the Republic. The Roman government considered not disbanding his legion as insurrection, and treason. Isn't that what the Donald would be doing? By invoking the Insurrection Act he would be putting the Posse Comitatus Act on hold, and allow the people of the United States to be under a military rule. Just as Caesar when he rode with his legions into the city of Rome. Brother, I honestly don't know what you are wanting to achieve. Do you have children? Do you have a wife? Are you part of a church fellowship with women and children? We as Christians pray for our leaders that we be kept in peace. In other words, that they leave us alone.

Bro, civilians in a war situation on their own land is not a good look at any speed. Lines of refugees from a burned out bombed out cities can't be what you are looking for. Because that is what happened with the last Civil War in the United States.

While I don't think that will happen, because no matter how virtuous you believe Trump to be, he wants to get on with the show. If Biden gets in that is what the Lord wants, because that is what we as a people so much deserve. Maybe having a president with dementia, and a silly twit as a VP will bring us to our knees of repentance and prayer? Don't you think we need that more than the 4th of July, sweet tea, and cheesy corn bake eaten to the tune, "I'm proud to be an American?"

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 06:14 PM

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So, who is getting sworn in on January 20th?

Originalist 12-07-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597406)
So, who is getting sworn in on January 20th?

Nobody. It will most likely be later.

Originalist 12-07-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597134)
Bro, do you even know why Julius Caesar wanted to cross the Rubicon? He believed, as did his men, that he was saving the Republic. The Roman government considered not disbanding his legion as insurrection, and treason. Isn't that what the Donald would be doing? By invoking the Insurrection Act he would be putting the Posse Comitatus Act on hold, and allow the people of the United States to be under a military rule. Just as Caesar when he rode with his legions into the city of Rome. Brother, I honestly don't know what you are wanting to achieve. Do you have children? Do you have a wife? Are you part of a church fellowship with women and children? We as Christians pray for our leaders that we be kept in peace. In other words, that they leave us alone.

Bro, civilians in a war situation on their own land is not a good look at any speed. Lines of refugees from a burned out bombed out cities can't be what you are looking for. Because that is what happened with the last Civil War in the United States.

While I don't think that will happen, because no matter how virtuous you believe Trump to be, he wants to get on with the show. If Biden gets in that is what the Lord wants, because that is what we as a people so much deserve. Maybe having a president with dementia, and a silly twit as a VP will bring us to our knees of repentance and prayer? Don't you think we need that more than the 4th of July, sweet tea, and cheesy corn bake eaten to the tune, "I'm proud to be an American?"

I'm actually thinking of Cincinnatus.

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597408)
I'm actually thinking of Cincinnatus.

Yes, forsaking the plow to become a dictator. Then as soon as the emergency is over return to the plow. He was a hero to the old Republic at a time the Republic wasn't corrupt. Yet, it is a the people who create a Lucius Cornelius Sulla. There is where the die was cast. Julius Caesar was a ripe apple which the people were awaiting to pick. God places rulers above us, we so much want, and so much deserve. God wants to be our King, but sadly we want no king but Caesar. We so desire a king like all the other nations.

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597407)
Nobody. It will most likely be later.

It will be an interesting 44 days.

Esaias 12-07-2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597408)
I'm actually thinking of Cincinnatus.

I've been thinking "more like Pisistratus"...

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597413)
I've been thinking "more like Pisistratus"...

That's very interesting.

Make Athens Great Again. :heeheehee

Birddog 12-07-2020 08:32 PM

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I spent the last three days of last week up in the Washington area, Olympia to be exact...

What a depressing place that the west coast is now.

The lockdown is killing Washington, Oregon and Cali. I don't see how people can continue to live that way and we did see people resisting the tyranny.

We stopped at a little Christian run restaurant just above the Washington border just as they opened. Was met by an armed group of protesters who where protesting the governor's decree. Armed to the teeth and ready for whatever to happen.

Wen a little further north to pick up the equipment and was met by more disgruntled people. They were kind to us but you could tell that they were not happy with their government.

Felt like a powder keg ready to go off.

The dems are going to try to do that to the entire country and then.... BOOM!

Birddog 12-07-2020 08:35 PM

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Has anyone given any thought as to why the dems are talking about doing away with the local police?

My thoughts on this are that they want to do away with the local police and sheriffs who have already proved their loyalty to Trump and install a national police which will be loyal to the hierarchy. That way they can order the police to enforce the rules which the local police are now disregarding.

My .02

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1597419)
Has anyone given any thought as to why the dems are talking about doing away with the local police?

My thoughts on this are that they want to do away with the local police and sheriffs who have already proved their loyalty to Trump and install a national police which will be loyal to the hierarchy. That way they can order the police to enforce the rules which the local police are now disregarding.

My .02

The Clintons were the first to come up with the idea of getting rid of the posse comitatus act. Being policed by military will get everyone in jail. Hey, if that happens more ice cream for Nancy!!! :happydance

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 08:59 PM

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https://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/46ae...db74282b85.pdf

Esaias 12-07-2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597416)
That's very interesting.

Make Athens Great Again. :heeheehee

Yeah, makes me wonder who REALLY funds the antifa riots....

Esaias 12-07-2020 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1597419)
Has anyone given any thought as to why the dems are talking about doing away with the local police?

My thoughts on this are that they want to do away with the local police and sheriffs who have already proved their loyalty to Trump and install a national police which will be loyal to the hierarchy. That way they can order the police to enforce the rules which the local police are now disregarding.

My .02

When dictators come in they usually get rid of the existing police force as much as possible.

Of course, they replace it with a new police force, but hey at this point what difference does it make? Amirite?

:heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 12-07-2020 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597442)
Yeah, makes me wonder who REALLY funds the antifa riots....

Isn't history a good teacher? :lol

Esaias 12-08-2020 01:12 AM

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...lection-rules/

Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules

Originalist 12-08-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1597418)
I spent the last three days of last week up in the Washington area, Olympia to be exact...

What a depressing place that the west coast is now.

The lockdown is killing Washington, Oregon and Cali. I don't see how people can continue to live that way and we did see people resisting the tyranny.

We stopped at a little Christian run restaurant just above the Washington border just as they opened. Was met by an armed group of protesters who where protesting the governor's decree. Armed to the teeth and ready for whatever to happen.

Wen a little further north to pick up the equipment and was met by more disgruntled people. They were kind to us but you could tell that they were not happy with their government.

Felt like a powder keg ready to go off.

The dems are going to try to do that to the entire country and then.... BOOM!

And you don't see this on the news at all.

Originalist 12-08-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597409)
Yes, forsaking the plow to become a dictator. Then as soon as the emergency is over return to the plow. He was a hero to the old Republic at a time the Republic wasn't corrupt. Yet, it is a the people who create a Lucius Cornelius Sulla. There is where the die was cast. Julius Caesar was a ripe apple which the people were awaiting to pick. God places rulers above us, we so much want, and so much deserve. God wants to be our King, but sadly we want no king but Caesar. We so desire a king like all the other nations.

I don't see this "give us a king" attitude from Trump supporters.

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597453)
I don't see this "give us a king" attitude from Trump supporters.

Don't take this the wrong way. Because I really don't know what you can or cannot see. But, sometimes when people are in the middle of a movement they don't realize what is going on around them. Or, they just let things go through a simple application of cognitive dissonance. It is like when we go over to Aunt Biddy Jean's house. She has 14 cats and four litter boxes. Everyone who visits her knows she has these friendly felines. Even if they cannot see them. Because they can smell them. Even if Aunt Biddy Jean is the cleanest cat lady in the world, we who are on the outside entering her home can still smell them. I'm going to say something here that might be pretty unpopular, but again don't take it the wrong way. I see parallels between Hitler's movement and what we are seeing around Trump. When Brother Esaias mentioned Pisistratus. I immediately thought about how he appealed to the farmers, the cattle owners, shepards, of Athens. A literal let's Make Athens Great Again. Pisistratus totally understood the art of the deal, from the very first time he hopped out of his chariot at the gates of Athens.
Everyone loves the the tough guy, the hard guy, the lets get things done guy. But fact of the matter is that these men didn't rule alone. No one ever does. they need a strong base group of Stormtroopers. Marjorie Greene U.S. Rep for Georgia 14th District, makes no bones about what she is about. People love it. Hey, I'm all about gun rights, I'm not about nut's rights. Yes, we are tired, our system isn't broken, because broken can be repaired. Our system is shot out. We are now just in a constant roll towards further rot and decay.
Athens was ripe for a Pisistratus, he didn't even need to bring is body builder girlfriend with him. Hitler, well you know the story on how Germany was ripe for the Nationalist Socialist Party. People are tired of killing themselves everyday, from dark to dark, then coming home with nothing to show. The woman who complied with the rules of her city. Only to find out that the politician prostitute Mayor Eric Garcetti has catered to the Movie Industry who really is the bread N butter in California. She is tired, frustrated and fed up. She isn't alone, in the United States. But if you watch her video all the way to the end. You listen to her last statements, "we need YOUR help! We need someone to do something about...this!" That's when the Pisistratus, the Hitlers, and the Trumps of this world step right up. America the United States were taught from childhood on up. That when hypocrisy of government is slapping you in the face. You are to rise up and crush the serpent's head. Death to the Cylons! Yet, we are civilized, we were always taught about that old piece of parchment hanging in the museum called the Constitution. We just need a Hero! Captain America! But, if he isn't available, will always take Thanos. Come to think of it Thanos just might get the job done faster. His results more permanent.

https://twitter.com/SpencerKlavan/st...07535070253057

Someone send Mayor Garcetti a violin, a toga, and a wreath of laurel

Ehud 12-08-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597463)
...

We just need a Hero! Captain America! But, if he isn't available, will always take Thanos.

...

It's a bit scary just how well this analogy seems to fit, elder. A very sad state of affairs.

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehud (Post 1597469)
It's a bit scary just how well this analogy seems to fit, elder. A very sad state of affairs.

Sadly people under right set of circumstances will take any port in a storm.

Every tyrant in history was born out of the people's need to end political suffering in a hurry.


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