Apostolic Friends Forum

Apostolic Friends Forum (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/index.php)
-   Fellowship Hall (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=54268)

n david 12-08-2020 03:08 PM

SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Stick a fork in the 2020 General Election, it's finally over.

The last-ditch, hail-mary effort by the Trump Campaign to have the conservative majority on the SCOTUS change the results of the election and give him a victory has been denied by the SCOTUS. Notably there were no dissents included. Get that? Not a single dissent recorded in this order. It was a single sentence: "The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied."

I don't know why this was Trump's strategy, and it was his strategy. He wanted this to be decided by his nominations on the SCOTUS. Guiliani and Trump's other lawyers and advisors really did Trump an injustice by believing the SCOTUS would even accept and take the case.

There was not a chance that even a full conservative panel of Justices would have taken this case. Not a chance. Imagine the chaos, rioting, and destruction if they had invalidated mail in ballots and caused the results to be overturned in favor of Trump.

It was a great four years but it's done and over. Now come the globalists. The very same scoundrels and traitors who attempted a coup against Trump are now coming back into power.

The best thing for Trump to do is issue a pardon to both Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and then leave the WH in January. No more rallies. Don't do a rally on Inauguration Day. No more speeches or pressers. Let the press rot. Use the remaining days to try and secure America First.

n david 12-08-2020 03:21 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0GqC...dIME/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/91X2MlgF7dHsA/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/PsHrpsuiZLAEE/giphy.gif

Nicodemus1968 12-08-2020 04:21 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
If Trump is still alive, there is always 2024.

Michael The Disciple 12-08-2020 05:00 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Havent you heard? Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana have sued Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia.

One more chance unless I heard that wrong.

Michael The Disciple 12-08-2020 05:02 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1597472)
If Trump is still alive, there is always 2024.

If Trump loses he will be in prison or executed. These Commies dont play games like Republicans. They play for keeps.

Ron 12-08-2020 05:37 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
I wonder what it would look like if 75 million Americans went on strike. Libtards don't work, the US will come to a standstill. Will your average American Soldier be willing to kill his fellow Americans?

n david 12-08-2020 06:08 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1597475)
Havent you heard? Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana have sued Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia.

One more chance unless I heard that wrong.

Yes, I read that TX sued four states. After today’s ruling there’s no chance the court will hear any arguments in that lawsuit. It will likely be dismissed.

Originalist 12-08-2020 06:17 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1597481)
Yes, I read that TX sued four states. After today’s ruling there’s no chance the court will hear any arguments in that lawsuit. It will likely be dismissed.

I think you may be misreading this. Pennsylvania was dismissed because the Texas suit deals with ALL of the states in dispute.

Originalist 12-08-2020 06:19 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1597476)
If Trump loses he will be in prison or executed. These Commies dont play games like Republicans. They play for keeps.

Exactly. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. This was an act of war and Trump needs to declare martial law if the SCOTUS bails. I believe the military will back him.

Amanah 12-08-2020 07:01 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597483)
Exactly. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. This was an act of war and Trump needs to declare martial law if the SCOTUS bails. I believe the military will back him.


https://www.npr.org/2020/12/05/94322...ge-martial-law

TJJJ 12-08-2020 07:14 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Turn out the lights the party is over....

Michael The Disciple 12-08-2020 07:18 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
According to Citizen Free Press these states have joined the Texas suit.

Arkansas, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, South Dakota and Lousiana…

Originalist 12-08-2020 07:23 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1597484)

Sounds like a plan!!

n david 12-08-2020 07:54 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597482)
I think you may be misreading this. Pennsylvania was dismissed because the Texas suit deals with ALL of the states in dispute.

Where did you read this?

n david 12-08-2020 07:57 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597483)
Exactly. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. This was an act of war and Trump needs to declare martial law if the SCOTUS bails. I believe the military will back him.

I disagree that Trump should declare martial law. It’s a bit absurd. So we trash the Constitution to protect the Constitution? Is that 4D chess?

Also, I doubt the military will back him. You have commanders in Syria lying to him about troop levels to keep Trump from further reductions. The military brass will support Biden, not Trump. Because Trump has ruined their livelihood. They live for war. Trump wants peace.

Pressing-On 12-08-2020 08:01 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597482)
I think you may be misreading this. Pennsylvania was dismissed because the Texas suit deals with ALL of the states in dispute.

This is true.

The Supreme Court denied only the “emergency injunction”. It did not deny the Certification. Mike Kelly’s case is still pending in the Supreme Court.

We can thank Senator Ted Cruz for inspiring Texas to sue.

The Texas lawsuit filed by Ken Paxton went straight to the Supreme Court.

PA, GA, MI, WI violated the Constitution by violating their own laws. Therefore, Texas has been harmed. These states violated the Electors Clause and the 14th Amendment.

Any Electoral College votes cast by those electors violate the Constitution and should not be counted. That means neither Trump nor Biden get the Electoral College votes that they need.

The decision would then be made by the House of Representatives. Very important piece of litigation.
Now, the Supreme Court will decide one way or the other.

If the Electoral College votes aren't redistributed through new electors by state legislatures, Congress gets involved.

Even though the House is controlled by Democrats, they don't control state delegations. Republicans have 27, Democrats have 21. Those delegations would choose the President.

7 states have gotten onboard with the Texas suit - Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, South Dakota. Should have a couple more.

Also, Supreme Court is requiring the 4 states Texas filed against to respond to the Bill of Complaint by Thursday 3:00 EST.

So, Pennsylvania will be forced to defend why they changed election laws, bypassing the state legislature.

Amanah 12-08-2020 08:02 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Newsmax on why it's not over

https://youtu.be/AIHf2mlFBdw

Pressing-On 12-08-2020 08:10 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Here is the Texas lawsuit. 154 pages

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie...ling.pdf&hl=en

Bill of Complaint

“Our Country stands at an important crossroads. Either the Constitution matters and must be followed, even when some officials consider it inconvenient or out of date, or it is simply a piece of parchment on display at the National Archives. We ask the Court to choose the former.”

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 08:47 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1597498)
Here is the Texas lawsuit. 154 pages

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie...ling.pdf&hl=en

Bill of Complaint

“Our Country stands at an important crossroads. Either the Constitution matters and must be followed, even when some officials consider it inconvenient or out of date, or it is simply a piece of parchment on display at the National Archives. We ask the Court to choose the former.”

P.O. Chris Reed owes you a Hawaiian shirt. :nod

Esaias 12-08-2020 09:01 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
What was refused cert was a filing for injunctive relief. They wanted a decision without actually arguing in court. The request was denied, which means it will go to court.

Meanwhile Texas and I think so far 7 states have been put on the docket for their case, which is bigger and with potentially heavier consequences than an individual candidate's case.

You can stick a fork in it, but the oven is still preheating.

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 09:07 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597509)
What was refused cert was a filing for injunctive relief. They wanted a decision without actually arguing in court. The request was denied, which means it will go to court.

Meanwhile Texas and I think so far 7 states have been put on the docket for their case, which is bigger and with potentially heavier consequences than an individual candidate's case.

You can stick a fork in it, but the oven is still preheating.

So, what is the angle to create drama to proceed forward into Rome? Care to take a guess?

Esaias 12-08-2020 09:08 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597483)
Exactly. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. This was an act of war and Trump needs to declare martial law if the SCOTUS bails. I believe the military will back him.

Ready to cross that Rubicon, eh? Martial law, eh? And just where is that in the Constitution?

You think the military will back him? How about you? Will the military back you? Yeah, right into Gitmo or against the wall. You really don't seem to be aware of what's happening. You certainly aren't aware of what you are clamoring for.

Just the other day you were saying something about Trump supporters don't want an emperor. Yet here you are now hoping Trump trashes the Constitution by (unlawfully) declaring "martial law"? As Commander In Chief, what does that make him?

Caesar? Fuhrer? Czar? Konig? WarChief? Subject to WHAT?

Oh wait... You forgot all about COG? Continuity of Government? You think these public sockpuppets are running ANYTHING?????

Text RUDY20 for 20% off your liberty. What's left of it anyway.

Good grief, Americans are clueless.

Esaias 12-08-2020 09:13 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597510)
So, what is the angle to create drama to proceed forward into Rome? Care to take a guess?

Former head of Israeli space program just said aliens exist and have been in contact with Israelis and the US government.

Oy vey, rabbis from outer space?

lol

I have no idea which way this train goes off the rails. Either way you look at it, the only easy day was yesterday.

Esaias 12-08-2020 09:17 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Folks are ready to go kill and hold their friend's intestines in for them knowing there's no medic on the way, because "muh votes" which have been defrauded for DECADES.

But they'll wear the mask everywhere? Shut their business down because "reasons"?

Get outta here.

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 09:23 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597513)
Former head of Israeli space program just said aliens exist and have been in contact with Israelis and the US government.

Oy vey, rabbis from outer space?

lol

I have no idea which way this train goes off the rails. Either way you look at it, the only easy day was yesterday.

Yeah I saw that, but there real space program is happening here. With a National Police force of Chinese policing the United States. Donald Trump is found out to be Q. Joe Biden wants us to wear the mask for a hundred days but will be unable to smell the heads of women. Meanwhile Marjorie Greene tearing it up in her Humvee blasting off rounds making Amerika free.

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2020 09:27 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597514)
Folks are ready to go kill and hold their friend's intestines in for them knowing there's no medic on the way, because "muh votes" which have been defrauded for DECADES.

But they'll wear the mask everywhere? Shut their business down because "reasons"?

Get outta here.

But we are a country of strong woman leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fS...ieTaylorGreene

Game Over. :lol

Jito463 12-08-2020 10:14 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1597513)
Former head of Israeli space program just said aliens exist and have been in contact with Israelis and the US government.

Oy vey, rabbis from outer space?

Oh, I saw that movie. :heeheehee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo

votivesoul 12-08-2020 10:23 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1597510)
So, what is the angle to create drama to proceed forward into Rome? Care to take a guess?

Biden bites the dust before he is sworn in and Kamala is going to be inaugurated as President.

Esaias 12-08-2020 10:27 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1597529)
Biden bites the dust before he is sworn in and Kamala is going to be inaugurated as President.

I would say that has to happen AFTER he is sworn in, but then I remembered these people never did follow the law except to enforce it on the little people under their heels.

Ron 12-08-2020 11:51 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1597493)
This is true.

The Supreme Court denied only the “emergency injunction”. It did not deny the Certification. Mike Kelly’s case is still pending in the Supreme Court.

We can thank Senator Ted Cruz for inspiring Texas to sue.

The Texas lawsuit filed by Ken Paxton went straight to the Supreme Court.

PA, GA, MI, WI violated the Constitution by violating their own laws. Therefore, Texas has been harmed. These states violated the Electors Clause and the 14th Amendment.

Any Electoral College votes cast by those electors violate the Constitution and should not be counted. That means neither Trump nor Biden get the Electoral College votes that they need.

The decision would then be made by the House of Representatives. Very important piece of litigation.
Now, the Supreme Court will decide one way or the other.

If the Electoral College votes aren't redistributed through new electors by state legislatures, Congress gets involved.

Even though the House is controlled by Democrats, they don't control state delegations. Republicans have 27, Democrats have 21. Those delegations would choose the President.

7 states have gotten onboard with the Texas suit - Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, South Dakota. Should have a couple more.

Also, Supreme Court is requiring the 4 states Texas filed against to respond to the Bill of Complaint by Thursday 3:00 EST.

So, Pennsylvania will be forced to defend why they changed election laws, bypassing the state legislature.

As always, someone who knows what they are talking about.👍
Thank you.

Nicodemus1968 12-09-2020 04:37 AM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Is this the official 3rd party logo???

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-...republican.jpg

Pressing-On 12-09-2020 03:05 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1597533)
Is this the official 3rd party logo???

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-...republican.jpg

Haven’t heard that.

Pressing-On 12-09-2020 03:06 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
17 states have join Texas case. :thumbsup

MO, AL, AR, FL, NE, ND, OK, IN, KS, LA, MS, MT, SC, SD, TN, UT and WV.

Ron 12-09-2020 04:32 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Very interesting talk. I am not sure what all these fellows backgrounds are bit for someone who is just looking to be educated in the legalities of what is going on, I listened all the way through. It is only an hour.
https://youtu.be/fhVRkTWAGkA

Pressing-On 12-09-2020 04:39 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1597581)
Very interesting talk. I am not sure what all these fellows backgrounds are bit for someone who is just looking to be educated in the legalities of what is going on, I listened all the way through. It is only an hour.
https://youtu.be/fhVRkTWAGkA

They are great people. Jay Sekulow represented the President during the bogus impeachment trial. They do a lot for religious freedom. ��������

The four scenarios for the Supreme Court would be:

Request a Reply brief
Grant the orders
Set it up for oral arguments
Deny the case

Ron 12-09-2020 04:59 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1597582)
They are great people. Jay Sekulow represented the President during the bogus impeachment trial. They do a lot for religious freedom. 👍🏻👍🏻

The four scenarios for the Supreme Court would be:

Request a Reply brief
Grand the orders
Set it up for oral arguments
Deny the case

Yes, from what these guys said, SCOTUS have the four States in mentioned in Texas's lawsuit that they have till tomorrow evening to respond to the lawsuit.
These guys mentioned that the most likely scenario is to says that the Election was not done in these four States according to the Constitution, therefore SCOTUS throws it back in the State legislatures hands to select the electors, or to defer to Congress. If it goes to Congress than it goes by each State having one vote. Trump leads Biden in that regard.
I just wish some people involved would see jail time. This is ridiculous.

Originalist 12-09-2020 05:05 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1597583)
Yes, from what these guys said, SCOTUS have the four States in mentioned in Texas's lawsuit that they have till tomorrow evening to respond to the lawsuit.
These guys mentioned that the most likely scenario is to says that the Election was not done in these four States according to the Constitution, therefore SCOTUS throws it back in the State legislatures hands to select the electors, or to defer to Congress. If it goes to Congress than it goes by each State having one vote. Trump leads Biden in that regard.
I just wish some people involved would see jail time. This is ridiculous.

When a case was brought BEFORE the election about the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overstepping it bounds by demanding a 3-day extension on absentee ballots, the vote was 4-4 to hear the case. Alito said then that the wording of the Constitution on the authority retained by the State Legislators regarding electors was "unambiguous." Had ACB been able to participate in the hearing, the vote would have been 5-4. It is my understanding that the dissenters said the suit could only be brought AFTER the election. So why would they refuse to hear now?

Ron 12-09-2020 05:11 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1597584)
When a case was brought BEFORE the election about the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overstepping it bounds by demanding a 3-day extension on absentee ballots, the vote was 4-4 to hear the case. Alito said then that the wording of the Constitution on the authority retained by the State Legislators regarding electors was "unambiguous." Had ACB been able to participate in the hearing, the vote would have been 5-4. It is my understanding that the dissenters said the suit could only be brought AFTER the election. So why would they refuse to hear now?

From my limited understanding, and I am getting this from the video I posted. When there is a dispute between States, be it water rights, boundaries, or Federal Elections. The only avenue of relief is SCOTUS. SCOTUS has ko alternative but to hear it. The case is on the docket and they are going to hear it. I think that is why the State of Texas did what they did. SCOTUS must look at the case now.

Pressing-On 12-09-2020 05:21 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1597586)
From my limited understanding, and I am getting this from the video I posted. When there is a dispute between States, be it water rights, boundaries, or Federal Elections. The only avenue of relief is SCOTUS. SCOTUS has ko alternative but to hear it. The case is on the docket and they are going to hear it. I think that is why the State of Texas did what they did. SCOTUS must look at the case now.

Exactly!

Esaias 12-09-2020 08:05 PM

Re: SCOTUS Denies Final Trump Lawsuit - It's Over
 
It's 19 states now, I believe. Heard it was 20, but supposedly Kentucky backed out? Not sure about that one, just hearsay.

I also heard there was another suit filed by Louisiana?


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:07 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.