The United States NEEDS to Repent or Die.
 

Is the above statement true or false?

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True. Without repentance sin is not forgiven. No repentance, no restoration.

And repentance is more than just feeling bad and weeping about how bad it is. It includes actually correcting the bad behaviour.

A thief who cries at the altar, but still shoplifts, has not repented.

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What do you mean by “die”?
Just the U.S.?
Die of what cause?

There’s still a lot of God fearing Christians in this country.

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What’s a lot?
Were there no God fearing Christians in Germany in 1939?
Right now I’m just focused on the US. You can start a thread on another country and I’ll comment :thumbsup

What is the United States dying of? Plain stupidity, like using a circular saw without a guard. You know you shouldn’t do it, but you do it anyway. Sooner or later the inevitable happens. You receive a life changing injury. Was there any God fearing Christians in 14th century Europe? When the Babylonians attacked Jerusalem were there anyone there who feared God? Do you believe the United States is eternal and can never fall? 476 A.D. Europe, were there any God fearing Christians leading up to that date?

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More than we might know, but less than we might think.

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Yes. Will it happen, NO.

We have a hard enough time getting "our" people to repent.

We are consumed with entertainment.

God help us.

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That can be said of any nation on the planet. Why is the USA singled out for this kind of statement?

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Because apparently with some in the church realm, America is the only nation founded on biblical principles. So, seeing the way America has become it really only has 2 options, repent or die.

Even though concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, the Lord would’ve spared the city for 10 souls. Maybe some of us need a relationship like Abraham had.

Or....

It’s Gods intention to judge this nation, and will raise another nation. Either way, the church will be shadowed by the wings of the almighty.

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:highfive

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Because this is where I live.

This is where I was born.

So, while I'm praying for Africa, I might want the land of my children to be on the go as well.

Make sense?

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Eh, surprisingly we were started on the principles of the Illuminati. :heeheehee

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On the one hand, you are a Christian.

On the other hand, you are an American, you love America, you're a patriot.

On the third hand you seem intent on keeping God and the Bible as far away from "saving the republic" as possible, except for some real basic lip service.

So, I'd say you are the literal poster child for what I've been saying for awhile now, to which you have repeatedly objected. Yet you keep proving my point for me.

So my conclusion to the whole mess?

A hard rain's a gonna fall. And a whole lot of people are gonna suffer, needlessly, simply because they just will not get right with God. And no, these aren't the lefties I'm talking about. It's the MAGA crowd.

I also have hope that a remnant is figuring this out, and THEY will the be ones who actually get something substantive done over the next couple decades.

And folks like YOU will likely, sadly, be first in line to oppose them and call for their being GITMOed.

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America actually was founded on Biblical principles. Our foundation of law and jurisprudence is the common law, based on Anglo-Saxon-Norman common law, which was and is based on the Bible applied to society.

The Masonic influence was largely in the form of getting the Articles of Confederation amended in favor of the Constitution which included certain little "hickies" that have allowed masonic type groups to control and dominate both the federal government and the state governments.

Patrick Henry smelled a rat, and he was right. And so here we are.

We've always had problems as a nation. But, it is undeniably clear that as we have moved further away from Biblical principles, we have become increasingly strained and buffeted with dilemmas and problems of constantly increasing significance and constantly decreasing solutions.

Also, you are still confusing "country" with "nation" and are intermingling modern concepts of nation-state and nationhood with Biblical concepts of nationhood.

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About Sodom and Gomorrah. God would not have spared the cities of the plain for the sake of ten righteous people living there. Rather, He would have spared them for the sake of Abraham's intercession on the basis of ten righteous being there.

Abraham's intercession was key.

Is anyone interceding for America?

We surely ought to be.

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Sobering post indeed.

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Intercession isn't going to come from a worldly, entertainment saturated heart. I miss the pre-service prayer, lost in the Spirit worship, and hard preaching that shook me to the core of my youth. I feel like I'm trudging through mud trying to find my way back.

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Agree. Thats why I mentioned having a relationship that Abraham had.

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I understand what you’re saying.

You know I remember and still to this day have heard, preachers and saints alike speak of the fact that, “when the schools stop prayer, God left”. IMO, I dont think so. Schools should not be in charge of having your kids pray. The government should not have the responsibility to teach you or your family about God.

Us as parents should be teaching our kids to pray, we should be teaching our kids about the Spirit, not the USA government. IMO its not about the mass slaughter of innocent unborn children, its not about a country or nation that massively repents, its about the church getting back to the place where the Spirit can move. Maybe I’m wrong, yet I’m not looking for the nation to repent, I’m looking for the church to move deeper in the Spirit.

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My first Pastor mandated home school or church school as a heaven or hell issue.

And yes, let's press deeper in the Spirit.

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Sounds like he knew the score. :thumbsup

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Not commenting on Originalist directly, but this is *exactly* what I am seeing all around me. Many seem to have become too American to be Christian.

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Let's be clear. The principle upon which we are founded is that of Natural Rights, aka Natural Law, aka "God-Given Rights."

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It's almost like the crowd gets embarassed when somebody starts quoting Scripture and talking about Jesus... As if they want to hurry up and move on and get to the "USA! USA!" parts.

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I don't think you understand what "natural law" actually means. It's a cop out. A way to get away from THUS SAITH JEHOVAH.

We ought to stand for God's law, not man's law, and not some undefined vague concept of "natural rights".

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We are definitely circling the drain. It is sad to see that Donald Trump is the leadership representing conservative Americans. People are looking to the president as a savior, when Jesus should be our only savior. I don't think that either way this election goes, it is gonna be good for Americans. The leadership of a country is only the reflection of the people. We blame alot on government, but the buck stops here. I include myself. If we want to make America great again then the people better humble theirself and pray and turn from their wicked way. Only then can Americal be great.

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Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....

https://trendingpolitics.com/cnn-flo...lding-economy/

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Did the church start a school?

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Yes, Bible Truth Academy
using ACE curriculum
https://www.aceministries.com

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Listen brother, I’m not trying to sound rude, or hateful. Yet, I just don’t see a country like the USA turning Apostolic. Actually, I don't see any nation on this planet turning Apostolic. As far as the USA is concerned, its not bible based and IMO it never has been.

Look at the time of Jesus, was that nation submitted to Gods law? No, it wasn’t. What about the nation of Israel, or countries like Italy, Greece, etc.. none of those areas were 100% Christ followers.

Better yet, look at the life of Christ, can you tell me where he spoke against the governing authority? Matter of fact...

Mark 12:17
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

Maybe this is where the founding fathers birthed the idea of, “separation of church & state”.

The song say, “too be like Jesus....” well. He ministered to the heart.

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I have heard and seen more people, people in politics and people in government service that talk about Jesus Christ before they have shouted USA, USA!

I am glad that you aren’t God, because your first comments and outlook appear negative quite a lot. If you carried a blanket behind you, I wouldn’t be surprised. :heeheehee

You are so doomsday, it is a wonder you even want to get up in the mornings. Sorry, but there are some days when I am like, enough of the black clouds!!

You make me feel really tired. Do you ever have joy?

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:spit

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I don't agree. John Locke was saying THUS SAITH Jehovah.

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Yeah. Our friend is making some false accusations imo.

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See? I'm gonna say it again, you are actually proving my point.

But I don't think you can see it, so I'm not going to belabor it.

By the way, it isn't about the US "deserving judgment more than Holland". Holland is in the same stewpot we are, just a little further along. In fact, Holland's future redemption is bound up with ours.

The issue is that America isn't Nigeria or Sri Lanka or China. We have a national responsibility and therefore are subject to more direct Divine correction.

"Have fun stormin' da caaaastle!"

There will be no victory worth the telling if the battle isn't fought the Lord's way.

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And you seem to think you have a corner on the market deciding what the Lord's way is.

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I am so glad there is a neat little handy option called "user lists". You can handily put anyone you want on ignore. Then you can't see their posts. You should try it sometimes. It will bring you happiness, I guarantee it! :thumbsup

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Yep. You will cheer when people like me are rounded up, won't you?

You do you. Have fun, O.

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I’d rather you’d stop being so depressing all the time.

We are the most blessed people on the earth and will reign with Him someday. If you have ever made a mistake and felt and known His forgiveness, that is cause for joy. In life or death, we are blessed.

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Ooops...

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I depress you because I don't tell you what you want to hear, I guess. I'm actually very happy right now. I just became a grandpa. Thanks be to Jesus!

Trust me, I'm not depressed nor am I depressing.

Except to people who expect me to genuflect everytime they play the pipes I guess?

1 Kings 22:8 KJV
And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the Lord : but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.