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What in the world.....?:shifty
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I remember there was problems with the water in Flint michigan....but really?

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A better link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OButexo-sjA

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Here I thought it was going to be;

“Swing Low Sweet Chariot....”

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Disgusting,

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You got that right!

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Such disrespect for other States and fellow Americans.

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There is only one National Anthem and that one listed above,
aint it!

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Americas chickens are coming home to roost.

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Is it? Or is it a battle between two ideologies, with only one prevailing?
Remember, God leads, the Devil pushes.

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Another excellent point.

Who is God leading and who is the devil pushing?

Do you honestly think Trump is following the spirit of God? Is Joe Biden being guided by the eye of the Lord?

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You know the history in the Bible. God used Nebuchadnezzar and actually called him his servant. I believe Trump is the same thing, he is being used by God to stir up, expose, and keep back the darkness in the physical realm while allowing the Church to have revival.
I am actually speaking at Bible Study tonight Lord Willing on Luke 21 about a shaking going on the spirit realm. God is the one shaking. He is doing it twofold. One too expose the wickedness, and two, to allow our faith to be exposed, to we really trust him, are we looking to him? Ultimately it is to him we will all answer individually.
In the meantime, you as an American citizen can appeal to Ceasar (your authorities)for redress for the wrongs that have happened. Paul did this even though he was Prophesied over, and I am sure that he knew he was coming to the end. So even if it is a lost cause for whatever reason you as an American can exercise your right. You never know, there may come a pardon the expression, hail mary pass before the clock runs out that will change the score!

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BTW, most Americans of faith find more freedom under Trump then Biden.
Trump isn't the one dumping ballots in the middle of the night.
That should tell you who is pushing.

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This is what I don’t understand, how does the church find more freedom under Trump? He went from voting for Obama to becoming the Republican nominee in a couple of years. He has stated before he doesn’t have a relationship with God. He is ok with homosexuality, he has a lifestyle that would make you blush, or at least should. Maybe on your own time and with your wife you should look up what he thought about his daughter on the Howard Stern show!

Our trust is not in Trump or Biden, our freedom doesn’t come through party lines either. You are right about one thing, and thats this election is affecting people’s faith, that should shake you to the core. Why would someone getting elected or loosing the election shake your faith. What is your faith in? America could crumble in the next couple months, yet God is still in control! And it may be the very will of God that America falls!

You ever ask yourself, what if Trump not having another term is the will of God? Would you be fighting against God to try to bring him back into the White House?

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First, I ask you to show me a perfect man for the position, he doesn't exist. Even JFK who was a decent Democrat, yet was an adulterer and had flaws. That being said, Trump delivered on a lot of his promises. Show me what good thing Obummer did besides divide America, advance an activist spirit among SCOTUS activist Judges. You know as much as I despise the homosexual lifestyle choice, they have the same rights as other Americans. However, gays under Obummer have special rights that superceded someone's first amendment rights. Trump will stand for protecting our rights.
Yes our hope is in Christ but we still have Political systems to deal with. You feel that God wants to wrap this up? I can only say what God told me in regards to the election and other situations, don't look at what you can see. We can see by eyes of faith that Go is working.
I am speaking tonight at Bible Study about Who's shaking who?

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Tell me what has changed in your life from the years of Obama to Trump. Tell me how many babies have been saved? Tell me how many Homosexual marriages have been postponed? In fact you want to get technical, we never had church’s shut down during Obamas reign! Now, can you say that about El Presidente Trump?

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Amen Nostradamus1968! :highfive

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Bro, Bible studies aren’t the place for partisan politics. It’s for the Word and feeding Jesus’ people. Our hope is in Christ, then you follow it up with “but?”

Ron, you and Scott Pitta have a lot in common.

You are both brainwashed by statism.

What is sad is that you complain about the politics of a foreign country. Instead of beating the tin drum for your own. You guys will probably have Justin Trudeau for life. So, sweep around your own front door before you preach to us down here in the states.

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I get the disdain for Trump, I have mixed feelings about his term in office. That said, the shutdowns and lockdowns were implemented by governors and mayors, not Trump. He certainly didn't do anything to push back on it, and may have even fed into it some, but he's not directly responsible.

It's local politicians that we need to hold accountable for their despicable actions. Even Rickets - as much as he's been less awful than other governors - still shut down some businesses, and has done nothing to fight the "mask mandate" in Lincoln, despite his claims that he would.

It's local and state officials we need to be concerned about, rather than whomever is "El Presidente". So long as we appoint good local leaders, then the national politics won't be as abrasive.

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I and many others always thought "America" should be our national anthem. Either that or "God Bless America". The Star Spangled Banner, while a neat patriotic song, focuses on the flag primarily, rather than the nation itself and God's Providential care.

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how about this as our national anthem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE3k...annel=baasting

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I have no disdain for President Trump. I voted for him back in 2016, I no longer vote due to some personal convictions I now have. Yet, I believe he did really well for the economy, especially small businesses. I remember under Obama paying what quite a few people make in a year in business tax. Under Trump paid the business paid nothing! I believe its because of his insight and his background that we have seen (pre-wuhan virus) such a boost in the economy compared to well my entire working life. I mean in my trade (HVAC) it was name your price for several years, what we were making on change outs and installs we have never made that. Yet, with any politician you take the good with the bad. Like you and I and most likely many others his New York Mafia style charisma needs some softening, yet, like Ron said nobody’s perfect.

The reason why I mock Trump and play the opposite of the field with some on here, its because I’m witnessing a love affair going on with this President. It’s like the United Republican Pentecostals Incorporated made this man Moses or something. I’m hearing and seeing believers, lose faith because he will more than likely not be in the Oval Office in a month and a half. I see others post about if you vote democrat you’re not a believer, meanwhile casting their vote for Trump. I asked this individual if because they voted for Trump, if there now accepting adultery???

Maybe some of you older ones can tell me a time when the church has been this involved in politics? Or maybe when has the church been affected this much in politics?

In conclusion, JITO463, I do not HATE Trump, I believe he did well for what he gave and what he had to work with. However, I have a disdain for believers who have a wanton spirit towards this man.

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I never really had much of an issue with his "tough guy" talk or his weird fascination with promoting himself above others. It was unseemly, but that's not what I took exception to. Initially, I didn't vote in 2016 because I saw him as nothing more than a financial supporter of Hillary, and long time friend/associate of the Clintons, not to mention his creepy way of talking about his daughter, the way he treated his rivals in the primaries and his potential association with Epstein.

Over time, my issues because more about his policies, especially in regards to the second amendment. I'm not looking for perfection in any man, just one that doesn't stab me in the back over rights that are supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitution.

I get that, and I'm with you there. There was an article someone wrote recently about how the greatest threat to the modern day church is "Trumpism". I'm not sure I'd call it the greatest threat, but it's definitely a concern and something to be mindful of.

I think the argument that you can't be a follower of Christ and vote for Democrats, has more to do with their policy on abortion than the fact that they're not Republicans. It doesn't help that they promote the homosexual agenda, but then again, so does Trump.

I think we're just too used to churches being tax exempt with their 501c3, which prohibits the church from engaging in politics from the pulpit. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out that prior to that, there was much talk of who to support back in the olden days.

To be accurate, I never said 'hate', I said 'disdain'. Contempt may be leaning towards the hate category, but it's not quite there.

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Politics is the managing and governing of society. It is the putting into practice of someone's answer to "How should we live?"

To believe there is a separation between religion and politics, that one can exist without the other, is to be misinformed as to the nature of both.

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:highfive

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I know a Pastor that quit his 501c3 status and made the church into a for profit corporation. That way he expressed his political views during services, held a mid week political patriot service instead of bible study, placed political signs on the church property, ran as a delegate for Ron Paul.

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Would you care to explain how religion and politics cannot be separated?

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Trump is a maverick, he is rogue. It means he does want he wants and no establishment is going to tell him what to do. I don't believe, JMO though, that supporters of Trump are worshiping him as Messiah, but as the best hope outside if Jesus they have. Look at the alternative. Marxist corrupt Joe Stealing Biden.
If you can't vote for him, I can respect that, I think even voters who support Trumo could live with the Biden victory, as disdainful as it would be, if it was a fair and lawful Election.

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Ron, maybe you should pray about what you post about leadership. :heeheehee

What rogue means?
1 : vagrant, tramp. 2 : a dishonest or worthless person : scoundrel. 3 : a mischievous person : scamp. a dishonest or unprincipled man.

In Zoology
2.
an elephant or other large wild animal driven away or living apart from the herd and having savage or destructive tendencies.

"a rogue elephant"

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Benjamin, maybe you need to get a grip. From Cambridge dictionary.
Rogue Noun
a person, organization, or country that does not behave in the usual or acceptable way:

informal

to start behaving in a way that is not normal or expected, especially by leaving your group and doing something dangerous:

That is Trump to a tee, then again, your TDS flared again, thus disabling you from seeing the truth and facts!����

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Separation of church and state is an idea meant to keep religion out of politics. The problem with this idea is that the creator of the world might not think it best that his ideas for his creation , be left out of how his creation should govern themselves. He may think he knows best. He might not force himself where he is not wanted, but this doesn’t somehow make the separation of church and state an intelligent idea. This is God haters attempt at ridding themselves of the responsibility to live according to Gods word. If in the end they will be judged by that word , what does it avail them/us to hide from his word our whole life. This to me is probly the most foolish and ludicrous idea floating around that I have ever heard. Even when the people of Israel wanted a king , he still was to abide and rule lawfully and according to Gods will. Go check with King Saul and see if he thought God gave them freedom to govern themselves outside of Gods commandments. He paid the price for his disobedience.
Still today every nation that forgets God shall be turned into hell. I know Obama would disagree with this , he thought there was no place for the Bible in governing the people.

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Go read up on the origin of that phrase. It wasn't meant to keep religion out of politics, it was meant to keep politics out of religion.

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Actually, what the founding fathers were trying to stop was not keeping God out of Government, but in not preferring one denomination over another.
Case in point, Henry the VIII had a wife Catherine of Aragon. He wanted to divorce her, the Pope said no. Henry said, Okay, let's stay up the Church of England (Anglicism) and have me as the head.
The founding fathers were trying to avoid a repeat.

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Netanyahu

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Ben something or other!

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Ben and Jerry?

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Lol!:heeheehee:heeheehee