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Originalist 12-17-2020 08:04 AM

Don't bet against Trump
 
I would not say that about anyone else. But he has proven he does not give up like other Republicans. Most would not be willing to actually go by the letter of the Constitution concerning the ratification of Electors by the 2 houses of Congress on January 6, but Trump will, and all hell is going to break loose.

Why do you think Hillary told Bident not to concede under any circumstances? She and others assumed the Democrats would have sizably increased their majority in the House and would be able to exploit 3 U.S. Code to their own advantage concerning competing slates of Electors. Trump intends on hanging them on their own gallows on January 6th.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/e...16/id/1001924/

Jito463 12-17-2020 08:14 AM

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Uh-huh. And the wall will be built, and Mexico will pay for it. And Hillary will end up in chains. And......the list goes on.

Look, I don't want Biden in there either, but at this point the likelihood of Trump changing the eventual outcome is somewhere between nil and none. Even Senate Republicans (most notably McConnell) are turning against him and acknowledging the Harris administration....whoops, I meant the Biden administration.

Originalist 12-17-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1598371)
Uh-huh. And the wall will be built, and Mexico will pay for it. And Hillary will end up in chains. And......the list goes on.

Look, I don't want Biden in there either, but at this point the likelihood of Trump changing the eventual outcome is somewhere between nil and none. Even Senate Republicans (most notably McConnell) are turning against him and acknowledging the Harris administration....whoops, I meant the Biden administration.


Your first sentence exposes your lack of insight. The wall is being built. Mexico is indirectly paying for it. And bring on your list. Trump has fulfilled most of his promises. And if you would bother to do some research, you wouldn't give a toot what McConnell or any other RINO has done. I am not saying Trump will succeed, but he has decided this a hill worth dying on.

Evang.Benincasa 12-17-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598375)
Your first sentence exposes your lack of insight. The wall is being built. Mexico is indirectly paying for it. And bring on your list. Trump has fulfilled most of his promises. And if you would bother to do some research, you wouldn't give a toot what McConnell or any other RINO has done. I am not saying Trump will succeed, but he has decided this a hill worth dying on.

When is Hillary going to jail?

Originalist 12-17-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1598382)
When is Hillary going to jail?

When Trump actually has a DOJ. But to use things like that as proof Trump has broken his promises is disingenuous, as is ignoring the rest of what I posted.

Esaias 12-17-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598384)
When Trump actually has a DOJ. But to use things like that as proof Trump has broken his promises is disingenuous, as is ignoring the rest of what I posted.

250 miles of fencing on a 2500 mile border?

When he has a DOJ? He is the chief executive. He can fire and replace people at whim if he wanted to. These are rather lame excuses for the general lack of progress in the Trump administration.

But, he DID promote the gay rights agenda through every embassy around the world to nations that opposed sodomite rights. Oh, and he made sure Israel was well taken care of financially. So there's that.

He's done a few things (the tax cut) but for the most part he's been a bust.

Originalist 12-17-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1598385)
250 miles of fencing on a 2500 mile border?

When he has a DOJ? He is the chief executive. He can fire and replace people at whim if he wanted to. These are rather lame excuses for the general lack of progress in the Trump administration.

But, he DID promote the gay rights agenda through every embassy around the world to nations that opposed sodomite rights. Oh, and he made sure Israel was well taken care of financially. So there's that.

He's done a few things (the tax cut) but for the most part he's been a bust.

I think it took him 3 years to really see what he's up against. You NEVER consider that. 400 miles, FYI.

Originalist 12-17-2020 03:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa6aI_Pnvaw

Evang.Benincasa 12-17-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598384)
When Trump actually has a DOJ. But to use things like that as proof Trump has broken his promises is disingenuous, as is ignoring the rest of what I posted.

Brother, the POTUS can pull the trigger like no other office in the United States. He can round up everyone and give them new living quarters in Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Also the Donald approved of hanging and firing squads. So, Hillary should of had her blindfold and last cigarette by now. To say I'm being dishonest is laughable. This president didn't put any of SWAMP in jail, or on death row.

Michael The Disciple 12-17-2020 03:38 PM

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Did the Pres IN FACT make Antifa a terrorist org? When I looked I found nothing to verify it actually happened. So far looks to me like another unfulfilled promise.

Originalist 12-17-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598394)
Did the Pres IN FACT make Antifa a terrorist org? When I looked I found nothing to verify it actually happened. So far looks to me like another unfulfilled promise.

Oh good grief! You guys are petty. This President, unlike most of his predecessors, has had an Executive Branch that refuses to obey him.
He can only fight one battle at a time. Just become JW's and be done with it. The whole lot of you.

Originalist 12-17-2020 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1598393)
Brother, the POTUS can pull the trigger like no other office in the United States. He can round up everyone and give them new living quarters in Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Also the Donald approved of hanging and firing squads. So, Hillary should of had her blindfold and last cigarette by now. To say I'm being dishonest is laughable. This president didn't put any of SWAMP in jail, or on death row.

And how could he with an Attorney General that let him be impeached while holding evidence all along that would exonerate him? You guys are really light weights. You wouldn't have lasted one week of what Trump has endured.

Evang.Benincasa 12-17-2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598402)
And how could he with an Attorney General that let him be impeached while holding evidence all along that would exonerate him?

Please I'm going to apologize even before I make this statement. I mean you no insult, but were you raised with a lot of television? After school movies? Saturday morning cartoons? Did you read comic books? I did, I did it all. But I'm asking if you did?


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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598402)
You guys are really light weights. You wouldn't have lasted one week of what Trump has endured.

Really? Think about what you just said here? It makes zero sense, because first of all Esaias and myself will never get the chance to try it out. In the immortal words of our Brother Esaias "all he has to do is do his job" Period.

Because if he was so hamstrung as you imply to us. What makes you think he is going to do anything in his second term? Sounds pretty ludacris, does it not?

Esaias 12-17-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598391)
I think it took him 3 years to really see what he's up against. You NEVER consider that. 400 miles, FYI.

Lol! 400 miles. Thanks for the update. That'll definitely fit the definition of a "big beautiful wall".

Took him 3 years to figure out what everybody else has known since at least 1963?

Get outta here with that cope.

Evang.Benincasa 12-17-2020 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1598418)
Lol! 400 miles. Thanks for the update. That'll definitely fit the definition of a "big beautiful wall".

Took him 3 years to figure out what everybody else has known since at least 1963?

Get outta here with that cope.

Isn't it amazing to say the least. Maybe if anyone ever noticed but I keep asking people "is Donald Trump a king?" We have a system where at best each president gets 4 years to do what they said they would do. When they first ran for office. What I find as funny, is that the Obamaites said the same thing about his first four years. So did the G Dubs about his rule and reign. It's either the most powerful job in the world or it isn't. But the truth of the matter is this, it doesn't matter who is in the Oval Office. The real power is everyone else in Washington D.C. But it seems that everyone sees Donald Trump as a king. Therefore he obviously must stay in power until he is finished then passes it on to another one just like him. It took the Donald three years to see what he was up against? For the love of logic, my lands, who are we dealing with here? Wally Cox as Mr Peepers? The Donald just didn't know what he was coming up against??? Not until he walked into the Swamp??? Then he said, "boy oh boy, I'm going to have to have more than four years to get this job done! I wonder if I could stay indefinitely?"

Then all the people said "AMEN!" :lol

n david 12-18-2020 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598368)
I would not say that about anyone else. But he has proven he does not give up like other Republicans. Most would not be willing to actually go by the letter of the Constitution concerning the ratification of Electors by the 2 houses of Congress on January 6, but Trump will, and all hell is going to break loose.

Why do you think Hillary told Bident not to concede under any circumstances? She and others assumed the Democrats would have sizably increased their majority in the House and would be able to exploit 3 U.S. Code to their own advantage concerning competing slates of Electors. Trump intends on hanging them on their own gallows on January 6th.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/e...16/id/1001924/

If it wasn’t for the fact the Dems control the House, I’d believe something could happen Jan 6th. But unfortunately they do and because they do nothing is going to happen. BOTH Houses must vote to uphold the objections. If it’s split the objections fail and the votes are counted. There’s no way the House will uphold any objections.

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2020 05:17 AM

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I want Trump to win. I pray God will defeat the Dems. Notwithstanding Planned Parenthood got more free money in the last 4 years than under Obama.

n david 12-18-2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598427)
I want Trump to win. I pray God will defeat the Dems. Notwithstanding Planned Parenthood got more free money in the last 4 years than under Obama.

I don't believe that. Do you have a source?

Originalist 12-18-2020 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1598426)
If it wasn’t for the fact the Dems control the House, I’d believe something could happen Jan 6th. But unfortunately they do and because they do nothing is going to happen. BOTH Houses must vote to uphold the objections. If it’s split the objections fail and the votes are counted. There’s no way the House will uphold any objections.


Nancy is threatening not to seat newly elected Republicans or this. BBAAHHAAHHAA

n david 12-18-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598431)
Nancy is threatening not to seat newly elected Republicans or this. BBAAHHAAHHAA

A couple weeks ago there was some Dem House Rep who wrote to Pelosi asking she not seat the GOP House members who continue to back Trump.

This would be an incredibly stupid move by the Dems. They paid dearly for Harry Reid allowing the nuclear option. This could backfire majorly whenever the GOP wins control of the House and if they had a House Speaker who wanted to play hardball with the Dems.

Dems better hope she's bluffing, because this would set a precedent that could really hurt them in the future.

Originalist 12-18-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1598433)
A couple weeks ago there was some Dem House Rep who wrote to Pelosi asking she not seat the GOP House members who continue to back Trump.

This would be an incredibly stupid move by the Dems. They paid dearly for Harry Reid allowing the nuclear option. This could backfire majorly whenever the GOP wins control of the House and if they had a House Speaker who wanted to play hardball with the Dems.

Dems better hope she's bluffing, because this would set a precedent that could really hurt them in the future.


One thing about the wording of Section 3. It says that Congress must choose Electors chosen by the "legitimate tribunal" of the States. The constitution clearly makes the State Legislatures the legitimate tribunal in the case of choosing electors.

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1598429)
I don't believe that. Do you have a source?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-t...ned-parenthood

Originalist 12-18-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598439)

Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598440)
Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.

Originalist 12-18-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598444)
So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.

Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you would never hold yourself to.

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598445)
Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you wold never hold yourself to.

Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.

Evang.Benincasa 12-18-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598447)
Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.

Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.

Originalist 12-18-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1598448)
Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.

Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598449)
Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.

It depends on what our priorities were how we see it. My main ones were:

Get rid of abortion. Drain the swamp. Defend the 1st and second amendment. Supreme Court picks.

While he did not promise to END abortion defunding PP would have at least been a "win".

The "swamp" meanwhile is alive and well. Mrs. Clinton "suffered enough" not getting to rule the world. The first amendment has been trashed about 70% as to the public square. DJT has agreed with "red laws" to confiscate guns first then have a trial later.

On these 4 priorities of mine overall I would give him perhaps a "C". So far it looks as if his SC picks were ill advised but it would be hard to tell if someone would actually be a Conservative if appointed.

The Democomms, who are fighters, demand that their picks be TOTALLY LIBERAL. Repubs say they have no litmus test.

But DJT did lower taxes and cut regulations. Same as any Repub would have done. He stood with Israel to his credit and perhaps strengthened the military. Our country is now in debt farther than could ever be imagined so tho jobs were at an all time high that does level out the optimism.

I like that he stood up to the press better than the Repubs before him but name calling and "tweets" wont get the hardest job (in the natural world) done.

Again, I am still for him. I thank God we had Trump instead of the Clintons. We had 4 years more to do what were doing. In his mercy God can do this again. If it is his will.

Nicodemus1968 12-18-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1598452)
It depends on what our priorities were how we see it. My main ones were:

Get rid of abortion. Drain the swamp. Defend the 1st and second amendment. Supreme Court picks.

While he did not promise to END abortion defunding PP would have at least been a "win".

The "swamp" meanwhile is alive and well. Mrs. Clinton "suffered enough" not getting to rule the world. The first amendment has been trashed about 70% as to the public square. DJT has agreed with "red laws" to confiscate guns first then have a trial later.

On these 4 priorities of mine overall I would give him perhaps a "C". So far it looks as if his SC picks were ill advised but it would be hard to tell if someone would actually be a Conservative if appointed.

The Democomms, who are fighters, demand that their picks be TOTALLY LIBERAL. Repubs say they have no litmus test.

But DJT did lower taxes and cut regulations. Same as any Repub would have done. He stood with Israel to his credit and perhaps strengthened the military. Our country is now in debt farther than could ever be imagined so tho jobs were at an all time high that does level out the optimism.

I like that he stood up to the press better than the Repubs before him but name calling and "tweets" wont get the hardest job (in the natural world) done.

Again, I am still for him. I thank God we had Trump instead of the Clintons. We had 4 years more to do what were doing. In his mercy God can do this again. If it is his will.

Im not sure if Trump was too naive to proclaim he was going to drain the swamp or he literally thought he could in his first term. This swamp has been going on for years, it was foolish for him to say that, AND foolish for those who believed that he could in such a small amount of time.

I do believe he rattled the swamp, he stirred things up in Washington in a way that hasn’t been done in years. That is to his credit, he is I believe self proclaimed or through other sources “a disrupter”. Because of him we got to see the other side of the media, and Washington that we haven’t seen before.

Also, he has not started a war I cannot remember the number but, in my lifetime he is the first president to do so. It’s been a great last 4 years, and well see what the next 4 years will be....

Esaias 12-18-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598440)
The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

You don't even know what you're on about.

Have fun storming the caaaaaastle!

How many swamp creatures did Trump intentionally surround himself with?

You've bought into the same hopeandchange lie the Obamabots bought into.

Operation Warp Speed? Hello? ATF going after pistol braces now? 80% lowers? Hello? Who appointed the head of the ATF again?

Oh but you say his hands are tied? Can't fire his own appointee? But somehow he's gonna pull off a victory against the entire deep state in a month?

Get your story straight. Is he incompetent and impotent? ("He gets so much push back...") Or is he in on it all? ("Trust the plan... two more weeks... 1024D chess...")

Our future security lies in God's hands. We need to be on HIS side, not some politician's. Put your life on the line?

You going to war? Better be prayed up and paid up. So far it's not looking like the MAGA crowd has God's blessing. Because they - like you - are strangely averse to hearing a message that says "Time to actually repent."

Evang.Benincasa 12-18-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598449)
Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.

Ok, so like Mike said, politicians should always preface their promises with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it! I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it!" Bro, the game is rigged, we are serfs, they are the lords and ladies of the Manor. They decide when and if they will allow us into the castle walls when the Mongols invade. Listen, the politicians' job is to sell us utopia whether it's Republican, Democrat, Socialist, or Communist. But there will be no peace among men unless it is brought on through the Holy Ghost. Unless men lay everything at the feet of Jesus Christ, and I do mean everything. The politics of this world will never do a thing for anyone but the leadership. They fill their pockets, and fight their wars with the blood of our children.

Evang.Benincasa 12-18-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598440)
The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

Oh, I am sorry I missed this. Help me out here. How are you putting your life on the line for me? Also how am I being petty?

Ehud 12-18-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1598454)
...

How many swamp creatures did Trump intentionally surround himself with?

...


Our future security lies in God's hands. We need to be on HIS side, not some politician's. Put your life on the line?

You going to war? Better be prayed up and paid up. So far it's not looking like the MAGA crowd has God's blessing. Because they - like you - are strangely averse to hearing a message that says "Time to actually repent."

:highfive

Ehud 12-18-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1598448)
Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.

Yeah, I'm not often on Team Michael, but he is spot on with this one.

Originalist 12-18-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1598454)
You don't even know what you're on about.

Have fun storming the caaaaaastle!

How many swamp creatures did Trump intentionally surround himself with?

You've bought into the same hopeandchange lie the Obamabots bought into.

Operation Warp Speed? Hello? ATF going after pistol braces now? 80% lowers? Hello? Who appointed the head of the ATF again?

Oh but you say his hands are tied? Can't fire his own appointee? But somehow he's gonna pull off a victory against the entire deep state in a month?

Get your story straight. Is he incompetent and impotent? ("He gets so much push back...") Or is he in on it all? ("Trust the plan... two more weeks... 1024D chess...")

Our future security lies in God's hands. We need to be on HIS side, not some politician's. Put your life on the line?

You going to war? Better be prayed up and paid up. So far it's not looking like the MAGA crowd has God's blessing. Because they - like you - are strangely averse to hearing a message that says "Time to actually repent."

Why are the two mutually exclusive? Why is it I have to choose one or the other? Furthermore, on what basis do you make some an idiotic assumption that Trump supporters are averse to repentance? You actually sound MORE ridiculous than Scott Pitta now. Seriously, why do you even comment on political posts at all?

Esaias 12-18-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1598460)
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Why is it I have to choose one or the other? Furthermore, on what basis do you make some an idiotic assumption that Trump supporters are averse to repentance? You actually sound MORE ridiculous than Scott Pitta now. Seriously, why do you even comment on political posts at all?

Why are the two mutually exclusive? Why are "We don't need a solid Bible-based movement of faithful Christians" and "We need a solid Bible-based movement of faithful Christians" mutually exclusive? You have got to be kidding me, you cannot possibly be this dense?

On what basis do I make the conclusion that Trump supporters are averse to repentance?

1. Do you want me to post the hours and hours of videos of Stop The Steal protests to prove my point?

2. I've been pointing this out since Stop the Steal began, that I was rather appalled at the very definite lack of anything even attempting to resemble basic godliness or reverence for God, especially when preachers and Christians at the rallies are literally shut up by the massed crowd.

3. The "we're gonna fight for the Republic" is largely spearheaded by the Proud Boys. Need I post the video from the latest rally in DC where the Proud Boy leader called for everyone to be quiet for prayer, some woman didn't get the memo so the prayer leader shouted "Shut the $!!@#! up, we're gonna pray, get that f$$!#$$ b$:%%:! the $:/\#! out of here so we can ##!$:;!; pray"?

3. YOUR RESPONSES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY PROVING MY POINT. When a Christian hears "We need to repent" they either respond with "Amen!" or AT LEAST with a "What specific areas need repentance? What specifically needs to be done? Let's be certain where we are because we MORE THAN ANYTHING need to be right with God ESPECIALLY at this time." But YOU? Ridicule, generally snide remarks, and a TOTAL DENIAL OF ANY NEED THAT YOUR POSSE TRUMPITATUS NEEDS ANY KIND OF BIBLICAL DIRECTION.

4. You CONSISTENTLY deny the Providential hand of the SOVEREIGN God in these matters. You incessantly claim (without ANY proof by the way) that God pretty much has nothing to do with who our leaders are or what's happening in our nation. Thus you logically see no need to get Him involved. You see no need to make CERTAIN Biblically that your efforts are indeed pleasing to Christ and in accordance with His will. Because you are essentially a Deist in that you think God dropped us off here and is on vacation, that God is not actually directing things in keeping with His Word. So no room for Jesus in your little movement, apparently.

5. You are literally claiming on an apostolic forum you are ready to fight, kill, and die in combat because your guy got shafted out of an election. Where was your outrage when an illegal foreigner and communist was installed in the White House for TWO terms? Where was your outrage when black box digital election fraud was exposed IN CONGRESS in SWORN TESTIMONY several election cycles ago? Where was your outrage every year that hundreds of thousands and MILLIONS of unborn babies were viciously MURDERED and BUTCHERED and VACUUM SUCKED OUT OF THE WOMB to be chopped up and sold on the black market with GOVERNMENT PROTECTION AND FUNDING?

You magatwerps can take your phony outrage and stuff it because you guys are some of the BIGGEST hypocrites I have ever seen.

Screaming for martial law in order to defend the Constitution? A so called Christian conservative Trumper I know was GRINNING today as he relayed the rumour that low level election fraud participants are being assassinated, car bombed, and snatched and interrogated black bag style by secret DOD operatives. All to "defend the constitution". An awful lot of you guys are so completely UN self aware JUST LIKE ANTIFA with their total mental disconnect and doublethink.

You guys have NO IDEA what's coming. Martial law? Civil war? You and the Stop The Steal crowd are MILQUETOAST compared to what's on the way. You guys are watered down tea party crumpets. Hard tea is on the menu, and it will steamroll right over you and your MAGA movement.

Birthpangs are coming, and are already beginning. There's a Crusade on the way. It will sweep your "left vs right" stupidity into the dustbin of history, along with your failed antichrist "constitutional republic" which was nothing more than a Masonic bankster trick and which got us in this mess to begin with. (Readers, see Note below)

You may very well see in your lifetime the real meaning of "Christ is KING". And I fully expect you will be in full opposition to it, ready to take up arms and kill and die to defend the rights and freedoms of satanists, sodomites, and peddlers of filth and perversion. And you'll do it while thanking Jesus you are bound for heaven.

I'm trying to help you out here but you're too caught up in the TV PROGRAMMING you can't hear anything.

Doesn't matter though because based on your interactions I don't think you actually read more than a snippet of whatever is posted. You certainly don't actually engage in real dialogue.

I'd recommend you stay in Florida. I don't think rural Texas will be to your liking.

Note to readers: the NATION was founded by Divine Providence as a CHRIST-HONOURING Nation. It was hijacked by the Federalists and a decidedly ANTICHRISTIAN "Constitution" was rammed through (illegally, I might add) specifically for the purpose of subverting the nation into a FEDERALIZED AND CENTRALIZED "REPUBLIC" designed to allow foreign antichrist banksters and agents of influence from Europe to convert America into the cesspool of degenerate filth it has currently become.

The NATION needs to be freed from the control of these godless heathens, but that will REQUIRE national repentance. Which means a people who take THE HOLY BIBLE as their charter, not some antichrist sham constitution that ALLOWS for all the mess we've currently got because it PROTECTS idolatry and rebellion against Christ as political virtues. And that repentance requires a church that will say it like it is and DISCIPLE THE NATION. Christ is KING, not Trump or Biden or any of these other satanic clowns.

DEUS VULT.

Evang.Benincasa 12-18-2020 07:38 PM

Re: Don't bet against Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1598461)
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Why are "We don't need a solid Bible-based movement of faithful Christians" and "We need a solid Bible-based movement of faithful Christians" mutually exclusive? You have got to be kidding me, you cannot possibly be this dense?

On what basis do I make the conclusion that Trump supporters are averse to repentance?

1. Do you want me to post the hours and hours of videos of Stop The Steal protests to prove my point?

2. I've been pointing this out since Stop the Steal began, that I was rather appalled at the very definite lack of anything even attempting to resemble basic godliness or reverence for God, especially when preachers and Christians at the rallies are literally shut up by the massed crowd.

3. The "we're gonna fight for the Republic" is largely spearheaded by the Proud Boys. Need I post the video from the latest rally in DC where the Proud Boy leader called for everyone to be quiet for prayer, some woman didn't get the memo so the prayer leader shouted "Shut the $!!@#! up, we're gonna pray, get that f$$!#$$ b$:%%:! the $:/\#! out of here so we can ##!$:;!; pray"?

3. YOUR RESPONSES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY PROVING MY POINT. When a Christian hears "We need to repent" they either respond with "Amen!" or AT LEAST with a "What specific areas need repentance? What specifically needs to be done? Let's be certain where we are because we MORE THAN ANYTHING need to be right with God ESPECIALLY at this time." But YOU? Ridicule, generally snide remarks, and a TOTAL DENIAL OF ANY NEED THAT YOUR POSSE TRUMPITATUS NEEDS ANY KIND OF BIBLICAL DIRECTION.

4. You CONSISTENTLY deny the Providential hand of the SOVEREIGN God in these matters. You incessantly claim (without ANY proof by the way) that God pretty much has nothing to do with who our leaders are or what's happening in our nation. Thus you logically see no need to get Him involved. You see no need to make CERTAIN Biblically that your efforts are indeed pleasing to Christ and in accordance with His will. Because you are essentially a Deist in that you think God dropped us off here and is on vacation, that God is not actually directing things in keeping with His Word. So no room for Jesus in your little movement, apparently.

5. You are literally claiming on an apostolic forum you are ready to fight, kill, and die in combat because your guy got shafted out of an election. Where was your outrage when an illegal foreigner and communist was installed in the White House for TWO terms? Where was your outrage when black box digital election fraud was exposed IN CONGRESS in SWORN TESTIMONY several election cycles ago? Where was your outrage every year that hundreds of thousands and MILLIONS of unborn babies were viciously MURDERED and BUTCHERED and VACUUM SUCKED OUT OF THE WOMB to be chopped up and sold on the black market with GOVERNMENT PROTECTION AND FUNDING?

You magatwerps can take your phony outrage and stuff it because you guys are some of the BIGGEST hypocrites I have ever seen.

Screaming for martial law in order to defend the Constitution? A so called Christian conservative Trumper I know was GRINNING today as he relayed the rumour that low level election fraud participants are being assassinated, car bombed, and snatched and interrogated black bag style by secret DOD operatives. All to "defend the constitution". An awful lot of you guys are so completely UN self aware JUST LIKE ANTIFA with their total mental disconnect and doublethink.

You guys have NO IDEA what's coming. Martial law? Civil war? You and the Stop The Steal crowd are MILQUETOAST compared to what's on the way. You guys are watered down tea party crumpets. Hard tea is on the menu, and it will steamroll right over you and your MAGA movement.

Birthpangs are coming, and are already beginning. There's a Crusade on the way. It will sweep your "left vs right" stupidity into the dustbin of history, along with your failed antichrist "constitutional republic" which was nothing more than a Masonic bankster trick and which got us in this mess to begin with. (Readers, see Note below)

You may very well see in your lifetime the real meaning of "Christ is KING". And I fully expect you will be in full opposition to it, ready to take up arms and kill and die to defend the rights and freedoms of satanists, sodomites, and peddlers of filth and perversion. And you'll do it while thanking Jesus you are bound for heaven.

I'm trying to help you out here but you're too caught up in the TV PROGRAMMING you can't hear anything.

Doesn't matter though because based on your interactions I don't think you actually read more than a snippet of whatever is posted. You certainly don't actually engage in real dialogue.

I'd recommend you stay in Florida. I don't think rural Texas will be to your liking.

Note to readers: the NATION was founded by Divine Providence as a CHRIST-HONOURING Nation. It was hijacked by the Federalists and a decidedly ANTICHRISTIAN "Constitution" was rammed through (illegally, I might add) specifically for the purpose of subverting the nation into a FEDERALIZED AND CENTRALIZED "REPUBLIC" designed to allow foreign antichrist banksters and agents of influence from Europe to convert America into the cesspool of degenerate filth it has currently become.

The NATION needs to be freed from the control of these godless heathens, but that will REQUIRE national repentance. Which means a people who take THE HOLY BIBLE as their charter, not some antichrist sham constitution that ALLOWS for all the mess we've currently got because it PROTECTS idolatry and rebellion against Christ as political virtues. And that repentance requires a church that will say it like it is and DISCIPLE THE NATION. Christ is KING, not Trump or Biden or any of these other satanic clowns.

DEUS VULT.

Well, that pretty much said everything which needed to be said.

I don't believe I could add much to this work of art..

My brother, I tip my hat. :thumbsup

In Jesus name

Evang.Benincasa 12-18-2020 07:46 PM

Re: Don't bet against Trump
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beq0...hRomanBalmakov

Esaias 12-18-2020 09:28 PM

Re: Don't bet against Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1598462)
Well, that pretty much said everything which needed to be said.

I don't believe I could add much to this work of art..

My brother, I tip my hat. :thumbsup

In Jesus name

:highfive

The idols are slowly being plagued. I'm starting to see a few here and there realising the things they trusted in afford no safety. At some point, Christ will be the only thing left they have to turn to. Painful process, but often necessary.


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