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james34 12-20-2020 01:58 PM

Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Whatever liberty is left needs to be taken. So they will have as many waves necessary, until you bow or submit in fear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ys/ar-BB1c5lPy

Evang.Benincasa 12-20-2020 05:49 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
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Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1598611)
Whatever liberty is left needs to be taken. So they will have as many waves necessary, until you bow or submit in fear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ys/ar-BB1c5lPy

Please explain?

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 11:40 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Anybody know about the mutated coronavirus

Amanah 12-28-2020 11:45 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
It's looking our way

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1599115)
It's looking our way

If it’s mutated then they would need to develop another vaccine?

Esaias 12-28-2020 12:19 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
How do they have a virus that mutated from an original virus that has never actually been isolated and properly identified in the first place?

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599119)
How do they have a virus that mutated from an original virus that has never actually been isolated and properly identified in the first place?

Shhh, "they" might be reading this.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/WlI9e...&rid=giphy.gif

Amanah 12-28-2020 02:24 PM

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All news except the good news is fake news.

Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Originalist 12-28-2020 04:23 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1598611)
Whatever liberty is left needs to be taken. So they will have as many waves necessary, until you bow or submit in fear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ys/ar-BB1c5lPy


Yes, the vaccine came way too soon. They said it would take 3 years and Trump made a liar out of them. Now they are looking for new ways to continue the sham.

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1599147)
Yes, the vaccine came way too soon. They said it would take 3 years and Trump made a liar out of them. Now they are looking for new ways to continue the sham.

What a guy that Donald is. What takes modern medicine years to test and complete he shot it right through. Nothing like sticking an untested vaccine into you, your elderly, and your kids. The Donald, he is so selfless, and only thinking of the American people.

james34 12-28-2020 09:25 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Y’all be good patriots and go get you some vaccine already!

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by james34 (Post 1599168)
Y’all be good patriots and go get you some vaccine already!

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Ehud 12-29-2020 11:15 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599119)
How do they have a virus that mutated from an original virus that has never actually been isolated and properly identified in the first place?

I'm gonna plead ignorance on this one, but I thought they had been growing this thing at CDC for quite some time now. Have I misunderstood what I've read? Or are you just saying they're lying? As cross-eyed as I have been lately, either is highly likely. Ha! :doh

Esaias 12-29-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehud (Post 1599181)
I'm gonna plead ignorance on this one, but I thought they had been growing this thing at CDC for quite some time now. Have I misunderstood what I've read? Or are you just saying they're lying? As cross-eyed as I have been lately, either is highly likely. Ha! :doh

From what I have read, they have never properly isolated the virus in question. They have been relying on digital data originating from China back at the beginning of the year.

The PCR "test" (which really isn't a test at all) is a process which "grows" cultured media through several successive generations. But in order for the PCR to actually identify a virus, they have to begin with an isolated sample, which has never been done with this virus.

They have been "growing" samples of who-knows-what that contain all kinds of extraneous matter. This is one of the reasons the guy who invented the PCR said it cannot be used to diagnose or verify an "infection" or determine "viral load".

diakonos 12-29-2020 01:32 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Definitely don’t need another round of the rona. My bill for 5 days in the hospital is $75,000.

Evang.Benincasa 12-30-2020 01:12 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1599184)
Definitely don’t need another round of the rona. My bill for 5 days in the hospital is $75,000.

Bro, and we can't have stimulus checks at 2500.00 a month until this pandemic is over? In the middle of a pandemic you have to pay $75,000??? What a flim flam job. COVID a boon for the medical insurance companies.

Esaias 12-30-2020 09:57 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
330,000 Americans Die ‘With’ China Coronavirus – CDC says Number Who Died “From” Coronavirus Is Much Less, Around 6 Percent

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...a-coronavirus/

coksiw 12-30-2020 10:41 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
CDC isolated the virus and made it available for research. The press release from yesterday: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...l-culture.html


The sequencing we have been using is from China isolating of the virus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN28E2SB

Therefore, we will see in the coming days if the China's sequencing was significantly different than what the CDC has. If it is then we have reasons for more sanctions, if it is not then we all should be good.

The fact that the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are effective 95%, can be an indicator that the sequencing we have from China is actually legit.

RNA and DNA sequencing has been around for decades, and it is a well understood and accurate technology at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History

The novelty of this mRNA vaccine is the ability to preserve the sequenced messenger RNA for long enough to transport it long distances, and distribute it, and then inject it as a vaccine.

The risk is not the sequencing that much, but the other components they use to preserve it and bring it into your cells so the enzymes can do their job creating the proteins.

coksiw 12-30-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599203)
330,000 Americans Die ‘With’ China Coronavirus – CDC says Number Who Died “From” Coronavirus Is Much Less, Around 6 Percent

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...a-coronavirus/

There are a lot of viruses that don't kill directly, but indirectly. Just to bring an example: HIV.

Esaias 12-30-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1599204)
CDC isolated the virus and made it available for research. The press release from yesterday: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...l-culture.html


The sequencing we have been using is from China isolating of the virus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN28E2SB

Therefore, we will see in the coming days if the China's sequencing was significantly different than what the CDC has. If it is then we have reasons for more sanctions, if it is not then we all should be good.

The fact that the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are effective 95%, can be an indicator that the sequencing we have from China is actually legit.

RNA and DNA sequencing has been around for decades, and it is a well understood and accurate technology at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History

The novelty of this mRNA vaccine is the ability to preserve the sequenced messenger RNA for long enough to transport it long distances, and distribute it, and then inject it as a vaccine.

The risk is not the sequencing that much, but the other components they use to preserve it and bring it into your cells so the enzymes can do their job creating the proteins.

When are you getting the shot?

Esaias 12-30-2020 12:04 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
SARS-CoV-2 has not been proven to exist; I can do this forever Dec 18
by Jon Rappoport

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...oven-to-exist/

coksiw 12-30-2020 07:43 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599206)
When are you getting the shot?

I haven’t made that decision. Nevertheless, I have lots of vaccines in me, even for things not in the USA regular schedule. It makes your body stronger and helps prevent the need of strong drugs which are way worse.
I am glad that this new technology used for Covid is available, as it can be used for other diseases that today they use fetus tissues for.

Esaias 12-30-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1599220)
I haven’t made that decision. Nevertheless, I have lots of vaccines over the years in my body, even for things not in the USA regular schedule.
I am glad that this new technology used for Covid is available, as it can be used for other diseases that today they use fetus tissues for.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?

Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.

But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.

Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:

Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "

Esaias 12-30-2020 07:48 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599221)
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?

Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.

But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.

Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:

Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "

Women get abortions. Doctors kill the babies, but "keep some of the baby cells alive" and grow them in petri dishes, keeping them going for decades. Then they use those baby cells (what's left of the baby, kept alive in a laboratory, in other words) to produce, develop, and test various bio-pharmaceutical concoctions.

Mengele would be proud.

coksiw 12-30-2020 07:49 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599221)
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

"Question
Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?

Answer from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines.

But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue. Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue.

Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:

Development: Identifying what works
Confirmation: Making sure it works
Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands. "

Shame on them. Stupid. No need for that.

james34 12-30-2020 08:29 PM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1599204)
CDC isolated the virus and made it available for research. The press release from yesterday: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...l-culture.html


The sequencing we have been using is from China isolating of the virus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN28E2SB

Therefore, we will see in the coming days if the China's sequencing was significantly different than what the CDC has. If it is then we have reasons for more sanctions, if it is not then we all should be good.

The fact that the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are effective 95%, can be an indicator that the sequencing we have from China is actually legit.

RNA and DNA sequencing has been around for decades, and it is a well understood and accurate technology at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History

The novelty of this mRNA vaccine is the ability to preserve the sequenced messenger RNA for long enough to transport it long distances, and distribute it, and then inject it as a vaccine.

The risk is not the sequencing that much, but the other components they use to preserve it and bring it into your cells so the enzymes can do their job creating the proteins.


The sequencing is from China?
So are the citizens of the U.S. supposed to trust the data from China? One day China is the enemy , then the next they are useful and can be trusted. People who play that game are the problem.

Evang.Benincasa 12-31-2020 01:15 AM

Re: Mutated Caronavirus/ To Destroy Liberty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599222)
Women get abortions. Doctors kill the babies, but "keep some of the baby cells alive" and grow them in petri dishes, keeping them going for decades. Then they use those baby cells (what's left of the baby, kept alive in a laboratory, in other words) to produce, develop, and test various bio-pharmaceutical concoctions.

Mengele would be proud.

:thumbsup


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