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Originalist 12-27-2020 12:01 PM

One option for Pence
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmHsqw7DCpg

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2020 03:21 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9K...ural%21Network

Originalist 12-27-2020 03:45 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1599057)

I post a video detailing a real constitution purgative that Pence has, and you respond with some charismatic hype?

Evang.Benincasa 12-27-2020 03:58 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1599059)
I post a video detailing a real constitution purgative that Pence has, and you respond with some charismatic hype?

Did you listen to what I posted in its totality?

Originalist 12-27-2020 04:27 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1599065)
Did you listen to what I posted in its totality?

I think Roth is a flake.

Originalist 12-27-2020 04:42 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1599057)

I see their point. But I am still leery of them personally, as harsh as that may sound. And this Israel stuff. UUGGHH!! But I have never once stopped believing that Trump can win this thing. If he does not, the joy of the Lord will still be my strength.

mont.preterist 12-27-2020 05:16 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
I don't believe at this time that it is the will of the Lord for Trump to win, this is a judgment call on the nation who has left it's true God to worship at the altars of money, medicine and ME! The me being selfishness.

Personally, I have watched the false prophets rave about "Thus sayeth the Lord..."

It reminds me of this Scripture in Jeremiah which goes like this.

Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of naught, and the deceit of their heart.

The Lord is turning this thing the way He wants it to go. Period. This is judgment on a nation. The church, the true believers, will prosper but the false church, the whorish church will suffer.

We see a church world that prostituted itself to a orange haired false messiah that indeed has failed to deliver them. Why isn't the church praying more and fasting more? That is what they are going to need to take them through this next area.

If a person is a pretrib dispensationalist that believes that Jesus is coming tonight, and if not tonight then tomorrow, why are you worried? This is all wrapping up...

But no, we see those same people, the same churches, the same preachers who claim that they believe that it is all getting ready to end disobeying Hebrews 10.

Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

If you truly believe what you say you believe then live it or get off the pot! If you are a dispensationalist and have shut church down then you are a hypocrite. You say you believe something but your actions prove you are a liar.

Trump has never been our messiah.

mont.preterist 12-27-2020 05:24 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Besides, I see that Pence did not follow through with what Trump wanted him to do....

Maybe he is more of a Christian than Trump is.

He can see the writing on the wall.

Pennsylvania decision is being put off until after the coronation, er inauguration.

Originalist 12-27-2020 06:12 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mont.preterist (Post 1599076)
I don't believe at this time that it is the will of the Lord for Trump to win, this is a judgment call on the nation who has left it's true God to worship at the altars of money, medicine and ME! The me being selfishness.

Personally, I have watched the false prophets rave about "Thus sayeth the Lord..."

It reminds me of this Scripture in Jeremiah which goes like this.

Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of naught, and the deceit of their heart.

The Lord is turning this thing the way He wants it to go. Period. This is judgment on a nation. The church, the true believers, will prosper but the false church, the whorish church will suffer.

We see a church world that prostituted itself to a orange haired false messiah that indeed has failed to deliver them. Why isn't the church praying more and fasting more? That is what they are going to need to take them through this next area.

If a person is a pretrib dispensationalist that believes that Jesus is coming tonight, and if not tonight then tomorrow, why are you worried? This is all wrapping up...

I am not a pre-trib dispensationalism. I do not think God wants to judge America any more than he may want to judge any other nation. In fact, I think there are many more than 10 righteous that God will spare this nation for. No, I do not see God saying here for us to submit to the greatest fraud of an election in history due to some ambiguous dispensationalism eschatology theory.

But no, we see those same people, the same churches, the same preachers who claim that they believe that it is all getting ready to end disobeying Hebrews 10.

Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

If you truly believe what you say you believe then live it or get off the pot! If you are a dispensationalist and have shut church down then you are a hypocrite. You say you believe something but your actions prove you are a liar.

Trump has never been our messiah.

Who said he was? People like you are going to be dismayed when your descendants suffer under communism all because you thought the rapture helicopter was coming to whisk you away and you did nothing to fight for their freedom.


:nod

:nod

Originalist 12-27-2020 06:16 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mont.preterist (Post 1599078)
Besides, I see that Pence did not follow through with what Trump wanted him to do....

Maybe he is more of a Christian than Trump is.

He can see the writing on the wall.

Pennsylvania decision is being put off until after the coronation, er inauguration.

You are drinking the kool-aid. What is Christian about submitting to a stolen election? And you have no clue what Trump wanted Pence to do. Just speculation.

Esaias 12-28-2020 05:45 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1599080)
:nod

:nod

The person you responded to is a preterist, as indicated by their user name.

Side note: why do you often respond inside the quote function? Makes it more difficult for people to use the quote function when responding. I've seen several people do that here and never understood why?

TJJJ 12-28-2020 10:55 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Now that is funny... I think I know this guy.

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 10:56 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1599108)
Now that is funny... I think I know this guy.

I don’t :heeheehee

TJJJ 12-28-2020 11:00 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Take yourself back 20 years.....

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 11:05 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1599110)
Take yourself back 20 years.....

Toupees and Corvettes? Wrong state?

TJJJ 12-28-2020 12:18 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Noooooooo.

Esaias 12-28-2020 12:22 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Which guy?

mont.preterist 12-28-2020 12:48 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Me? I am sorry, I don't recall meeting any of you. If I have talked on the phone with you please remind me.

TJJJ 12-28-2020 12:49 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
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Originally Posted by mont.preterist (Post 1599126)
Me? I am sorry, I don't recall meeting any of you. If I have talked on the phone with you please remind me.

Sorry, probably confused you with someone else. My problem.

mont.preterist 12-28-2020 12:55 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1599081)
You are drinking the kool-aid. What is Christian about submitting to a stolen election? And you have no clue what Trump wanted Pence to do. Just speculation.

Well, there was an article that Trump was mad at Pence so that is what I was referring too.

Trump apparently wanted Pence to work some miracle and Pence said that he was going to go with what has been proclaimed.

It appears that Trump is alone in this thing now so don't expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat and stay in office. Pray hard but I don't think it is going to happen.

As far as submitting to a stolen election? Drinking the kool aid? You are the one living in fantasy land thinking that Trump is going to do something amazing. Again, I don't see it but you never know. In a year maybe he and hillary can compare notes on how they lost and election.

mont.preterist 12-28-2020 12:56 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1599127)
Sorry, probably confused you with someone else. My problem.

Not a problem. Are you a pre, mid or post tribber?

TJJJ 12-28-2020 12:57 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mont.preterist (Post 1599130)
Not a problem. Are you a pre, mid or post tribber?

Lol. Definitely post tribber.

Esaias 12-28-2020 04:54 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
I believe Pence is supposed to do whatever on the 6th and then he is immediately taking vacation.

With Israel as his first stop.

Originalist 12-28-2020 05:55 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mont.preterist (Post 1599129)
Well, there was an article that Trump was mad at Pence so that is what I was referring too.

Trump apparently wanted Pence to work some miracle and Pence said that he was going to go with what has been proclaimed.

It appears that Trump is alone in this thing now so don't expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat and stay in office. Pray hard but I don't think it is going to happen.

As far as submitting to a stolen election? Drinking the kool aid? You are the one living in fantasy land thinking that Trump is going to do something amazing. Again, I don't see it but you never know. In a year maybe he and hillary can compare notes on how they lost and election.

Can you provide a link to this article?

Secondly, Pence can and likely will accept the electors chosen by the State Legislatures in the contested states, or reject both slates of electors entirely.

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 07:59 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1599149)
I believe Pence is supposed to do whatever on the 6th and then he is immediately taking vacation.

With Israel as his first stop.

That's chilling.

Evang.Benincasa 12-28-2020 08:04 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS_...hRomanBalmakov

n david 12-29-2020 09:10 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
GOP AZ Rep Louis Gohmert has filed a lawsuit against VP Pence in a last-ditch attempt to keep him from accepting the EC results.

"The lawsuit claims that the Electoral Counting Act, which governs disputes over electoral votes in Congress, violates the 12th Amendment, which also outlines the electoral voting process. The Electoral Counting Act details a process of handling objections to votes that involves both the House and Senate. Gohmert's complaint, filed Sunday in Texas federal court, claims that constitutionally it should only be the House to do this."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/goh...turn-biden-win

I can't help but think at the reaction if Trump had won and Biden was the one doing all the contesting and filing all the lawsuits, etc due to alleged fraud.

Politics is a funny thing.

Originalist 12-29-2020 10:45 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1599176)
GOP AZ Rep Louis Gohmert has filed a lawsuit against VP Pence in a last-ditch attempt to keep him from accepting the EC results.

"The lawsuit claims that the Electoral Counting Act, which governs disputes over electoral votes in Congress, violates the 12th Amendment, which also outlines the electoral voting process. The Electoral Counting Act details a process of handling objections to votes that involves both the House and Senate. Gohmert's complaint, filed Sunday in Texas federal court, claims that constitutionally it should only be the House to do this."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/goh...turn-biden-win

I can't help but think at the reaction if Trump had won and Biden was the one doing all the contesting and filing all the lawsuits, etc due to alleged fraud.

Politics is a funny thing.

Was there massive fraud or not?

diakonos 12-29-2020 01:30 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1599127)
Sorry, probably confused you with someone else. My problem.

Talking to yourself again?

Esaias 01-01-2021 07:59 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Rumours are VP Pence has resigned.
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Pressing-On 01-02-2021 05:32 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
REPORT: “The @VP welcomes the efforts of members of the House & Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections & bring forward evidence before the Congress & the American people on Jan 6th.”-Marc Short VP @Mike_Pence's Chief Of Staff

Originalist 01-02-2021 05:45 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1599274)
REPORT: “The @VP welcomes the efforts of members of the House & Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections & bring forward evidence before the Congress & the American people on Jan 6th.”-Marc Short VP @Mike_Pence's Chief Of Staff


It won't matter if a video is produced showing Biden, Harris, and the Chinese President planning the fraud. Pence won't do anything.

Pressing-On 01-02-2021 07:33 PM

Re: One option for Pence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1599275)
It won't matter if a video is produced showing Biden, Harris, and the Chinese President planning the fraud. Pence won't do anything.

If they can debate long enough, it could turn into a Contingent Election.

Basically, they bring the black box in with the electoral votes. One man or woman from House and Senate have to refuse to accept the election results state by state. Each objection gets two hours of debate in Congress.

After each two hour debate, Congress votes, agree or disagree. We would need enough objections to delay the ratification until January 18th. That makes neither Trump nor Biden receiving 270 electoral votes.

A Contingent Election kicks in. Thomas Jefferson was chosen in this manner. The House of Representatives then chooses the President by state delegation which Republicans control - one vote per state. Senate chooses the VP.

Pressing-On 01-09-2021 10:56 AM

Re: One option for Pence
 
I am disappointed in Mike pence. Professor John Eastman, Trump's attorney, said Pence was dishonest and that he grossly mischaracterized Trump's request for January 6th.

Trump didn't want the election overturned. That is a parroted point being made that is not true. Trump only wanted Pence to adjourn the meeting to allow the Legislatures to continue their investigative work to determine if the certification of electors, which violated state law, were erroneous. After the investigation, Trump wanted them either reaffirmed or overturned.


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