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Tithesmeister 08-30-2024 10:53 AM

Chris reed joins the ministry elite
 
CHRIS REED HAS GONE BIG TIME

Chris finally has a scandal. He evidently never saw it coming. He was too busy prophesying about others.

https://youtu.be/rd1yo3Pa62w?si=ZgJL9gCjoj6F03rE

https://youtu.be/RhXnE5PqRxw?si=5U_yt88wlpfGK5-t

I’m feeling the spirit of prophecy. I definitely don’t see him getting a real job roofing, hanging and finishing sheet rock, or pouring concrete.

Wait!!! I’m going to go even further. I predict that he’ll do more (false prophesying, more scamming of the sheep, and possibly selling gifts of the spirit. (Spirit of greed).

So y’all all need to send me yo money! Because I’m gonna be right. . .


Aaaaand I’m looking at buying an airplane. Because if Jesus were ministering in the flesh today?

He wouldn’t be riding a donkey. Just sayin’.

Amanah 08-30-2024 11:49 AM

Re: Chris reed joins the ministry elite
 
CR was raised oneness pentecostal, praying for Missy Reed, his family, and many who are hurting from his actions.

diakonos 08-30-2024 12:45 PM

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“I am deeply sorry that you have found out about this…

Sounds about right.

Nicodemus1968 08-30-2024 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1617086)
CHRIS REED HAS GONE BIG TIME

Chris finally has a scandal. He evidently never saw it coming. He was too busy prophesying about others.

https://youtu.be/rd1yo3Pa62w?si=ZgJL9gCjoj6F03rE

https://youtu.be/RhXnE5PqRxw?si=5U_yt88wlpfGK5-t

I’m feeling the spirit of prophecy. I definitely don’t see him getting a real job roofing, hanging and finishing sheet rock, or pouring concrete.

Wait!!! I’m going to go even further. I predict that he’ll do more (false prophesying, more scamming of the sheep, and possibly selling gifts of the spirit. (Spirit of greed).

So y’all all need to send me yo money! Because I’m gonna be right. . .


Aaaaand I’m looking at buying an airplane. Because if Jesus were ministering in the flesh today?

He wouldn’t be riding a donkey. Just sayin’.

Just a thought, if all of our lives were open to everyone, we’d all have something’s to be embarrassed or ashamed about. This man and his family were once Apostolic Pentecostal, and now admitted to some pretty disturbing allegations. Pray for him, pray for his family. Hopefully he come back to what he knows is truth.

Nicodemus1968 08-30-2024 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617087)
CR was raised oneness pentecostal, praying for Missy Reed, his family, and many who are hurting from his actions.

I just wrote to him, telling him I’m praying for him, his wife and children. I’m hoping he separates himself completely from Morning Star and everyone associated with it. I told him to seek God, Apostolic counsel…..

Time tells all.

Tithesmeister 08-30-2024 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1617088)
“I am deeply sorry that you have found out about this…

Sounds about right.

Thanks for your concern brother. I’m holding up surprisingly well, considering the circumstances.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2024 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1617092)
Thanks for your concern brother. I’m holding up surprisingly well, considering the circumstances.

Anyone want to know what I think?

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2024 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1617088)
“I am deeply sorry that you have found out about this…

Sounds about right.

Anyone want to know what I think?

diakonos 08-30-2024 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617098)
Anyone want to know what I think?

Always, brother. That was a quote from Reed in the video.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2024 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1617100)
Always, brother. That was a quote from Reed in the video.

Yes, I know that was a quote from Chris Reeds' video. :thumbsup

Tithesmeister 08-30-2024 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617095)
Anyone want to know what I think?

Please brother. We need to hear what you think. That’s why I posted this.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2024 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1617106)
Please brother. We need to hear what you think. That’s why I posted this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617004)
God was using him. Yet, he made the decision to quit being used by God.
people in positions of authority understand what they are doing. It’s not an accident, where they fell into adultery, child molestation, embezzlement, or drug abuse. They might be able to ignore the word of God, or the Holy Ghost. But their conscience needs to be seared with a hot iron. We sometimes like to be nicer than Jesus. When that happens we end up getting in some hot mess.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617050)
I believe the portion no one would like to admit. Is that these offenders actually were never meant to be placed in leadership. They weren’t “sent” they just “went.” The preacher who ends up cheating on his wife, his children, and his church family. They had that flawed character, way before he climbed behind the lectern. Hence Jesus stating that there should not be those desiring to be teachers. Because of the greater penalty of damnation. Giving someone the reins when they don’t have a clue on how to control themselves. Is a recipe for disaster. Sometimes it shows up right away. Yet, sadly (because of those around them enabling them) they continue for years. Moses David Berg was a serial pervert. Who was able to build a cult network. Destroying the lives of those who he shepherd. Jim Jones was never supposed to be in leadership. Yet, he was able to build a following who followed him to their deaths. Spiritually and physically. Religion (like politics) attracts mentally delusional individuals with visions of grandeur. Individuals who should of never be placed in a ministering role.


Honestly Chris should've never made the video. When you find yourself standing in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. He and his wife must be under an immense amount of stress right now. When he committed adultery it looks like he brought it to his elders. Rick Joyner also said he was going to restore Todd Bentley. Todd is still born to wild bearded Yakuza for Jesus. But, as Nicodemus has mentioned, he hopes that Chris would return to Apostolic truth, and seek Apostolic counsel. Yet, it is hard for these guys, once tasting the Ecclesiastical Big Lights Big City. They take the wound, but strive to come back to the stage to rebuild their "ministry."

Like Nicodemus, I hope and pray that Chris will lay his burden down. Restoration is to the pew, to the altar, to our face on the carpet in the middle of the prayer room. But, if we fall and right away focus towards restoration to a platform. Then we aren't even close to repentance. Jesus knows our future. All we have is the here and now. Small steps Chris, small steps. I pray that you hold on to Jesus Christ in the power of His resurrection.

Amanah 08-31-2024 12:11 AM

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Chris Reed was the lead pastor this church at the age of 25

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Amanah 08-31-2024 12:18 AM

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Amanah 08-31-2024 12:39 AM

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Chris Reed 2015

Committed to the Cross

https://youtu.be/XKqr2Oj67lY?si=ldnym9F7dAnPjUIH

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Amanah 08-31-2024 01:34 AM

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A person can humbly and prayerfully seek the Lord with a desire to serve the Lord and reach the lost. God will manifest gifts in a person's life for ministry to the lost and to the church. If that person ever stops praying or gets lifted up in his own spirit, the Spirit will leave him and he may try to manifest the gifts and fail, and then fake the gifts and then fall into sin.

Galatians 6:14 KJV
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2024 06:04 PM

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This audio is Chris' letter telling on Morning Star, and Joyner's letter telling on Chris.


SHOCKING‼️CHRIS REED, RICK JOYNER'S SUCCESSOR RESIGNS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO6vv4kjfIs

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2024 06:49 PM

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Chris, personally I don't believe you have ever prophesied a day in your life. I believe you have some deep issues. But in the grand scheme of things my opinions of you don't compare to what you, and your wife are going through. I listened to this message you had for the IHOP church family concerning Mike Bickle's situation. The words you had for that church family were words of hope. Keep them in mind. Our journey through life is a day thing. We only have today. We only have to live today. Tomorrow will take care of itself. I pray in Jesus name that you, and your wife are alright today. Don't worry about tomorrow, or what you will do in the future. Concentrate on today in Jesus name. I will continue to pray for you and your family that the Lord Jesus Christ will intervene in your life and help you today. Just take small steps. :thumbsup


Mike Bickle Allegations: Chris Reed of Morningstar responds

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OT787e4wDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OT787e4wDw

Amanah 08-31-2024 09:10 PM

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What exactly was Rick Joyner saying?

Rick Joyner:
"This resignation may seem bazaar (sic) and confused to those have followed, and I hope this will clear up some things. First, I want to thank all who have communicated your prayers and support for Chris and for us," he began.

"This is a serious situation, and I've seen this kind of thing several times over the 50+ years I've been in ministry, and I've seen it rob some with very powerful gifts of years of effective ministry. One was me, as this deception came upon me and cost me more than ten years of ministry. I saw it cost Bob Jones eight years, and I think it cost Paul Cain his ultimate purpose. It is the most deceptive spirit I've ever dealt with, and right now I think Chris Reed is in a battle for his future," Joyner said.

"Later, I will elaborate on this in much more detail because I have witnessed many Christians led astray from their purpose by this, with an incalculable cost to the body of Christ. However, I've seen some wake up, get restored, and even when they had lost many years of effective service, the Lord make this up to them," he added. "For this reason, I never give up on anyone, regardless of how far off they seem to get. Many of the great voices in Scripture and history also experience this. Not all recovered, but those who did were used in an even greater way."

Joyner did not immediately respond when asked by The Christian Post on Thursday to explain more about this "deceptive spirit" and how he saw it working in Reed's life as well as his.

"Chris has an important calling for this time, and I feel at least partially responsible, understanding this as I do, for not seeing this coming at him. I could have done better [by] helping him resist it. Even so, whether in a short or long time, I am confident Chris will get through this and take his place doing what he is called to do," Joyner said. "This is not to imply that leaving MorningStar will cost people their purpose. Many come to MorningStar for a period of time to get what they need from us, and then need to leave to go on to their purpose."

Amanah 08-31-2024 09:47 PM

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Is Joyner saying that it's deceptive to think there can't be restoration back into ministry for sexual misconduct or abuse?

Tithesmeister 08-31-2024 10:19 PM

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If you notice the title of this thread, and read the paragraph from Joyner’s message below, you’ll see why I titled the thread as I did. I believe that this whole mess will be spun to imply that CR’S best days of ministry lie ahead. He’s being tested. In Washington DC they call it spin doctoring. When you take something that should be horrific, and twist it to mean something good. In the Bible it’s referred to as calling good evil and evil good. Hide your loved ones from these kind of people. They have convinced themselves and their followers that they are next to God. Don’t believe they aren’t in the apostolic church, because they are. Teach your children to be wary of them. And don’t allow your wives to be confused. The husband is head of the wife. Not the pastor. Keep it straight. Nobody will protect your family like you.

“However, I've seen some wake up, get restored, and even when they had lost many years of effective service, the Lord make this up to them," he added. "For this reason, I never give up on anyone, regardless of how far off they seem to get. Many of the great voices in Scripture and history also experience this. Not all recovered, but those who did were used in an even greater way."

Utter garbage!

Amanah 08-31-2024 10:45 PM

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It's confusing because Chris says he's leaving due to a scandal at MorningStar with some children being abused.

Then Chris admits to sexual misconduct for which he had already been reinstated

Then Rick says Chris is leaving because of some sort of deception.

And then Rick brings up cases of other people who failed and were deceived about their ministry being over.

It just doesn't tie together well. Maybe Rick is trying to shift the attention to Chris to cover over his own current scandal.

Tithesmeister 08-31-2024 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617125)
It's confusing because Chris says he's leaving due to a scandal at MorningStar with some children being abused.

Then Chris admits to sexual misconduct for which he had already been reinstated

Then Rick says Chris is leaving because of some sort of deception.

And then Rick brings up cases of other people who failed and were deceived about their ministry being over.

It just doesn't tie together well. Maybe Rick is trying to shift the attention to Chris to cover over his own current scandal.

When it’s all said and done, if they have their way, people will feel soooo blessed to have a leader who is an adulterer, or a thief, or a pedophile, or all of the above. The sad part is that he’ll probably be bigger than ever. All in the name of forgiveness. And tolerance. By the way, I’m definitely not excusing the behavior of the woman either. But she is the weaker vessel.

Is forgiveness available? Sure! But maybe he should be mowing the grass and cleaning the restrooms. He’s proven his leadership skills already.

Pastor at 25? How’d that work out? Maybe pay more attention to the instructions next time.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617123)
Is Joyner saying that it's deceptive to think there can't be restoration back into ministry for sexual misconduct or abuse?

.
Most certainly. Rick Joyner brings up how many years he missed in ministry because of sexual improprieties. Then brings up Bob Jones, and Paul Caine.
But let’s look a recent history, Todd Bentley. Rick Joyner put that pervert back in the pulpit. As Tithemister stated these individuals can’t see the forest for the trees. They believe the gifts of God are without repentance. Meaning that if you are called to be a youth leader, then no matter how many children you molested you can be restored back to the ministry. The New Apostolic Reformation is an ecclesiastical cess pool. But, it’s the people who make it so.

Listen, you need an audience to continue this horror show. If people don’t grab their children and run for the door. Then what can you do? Listen a man (or woman) who cheat on their spouse doesn’t only cheat on the spouse. They cheat on their children. Their church family. Their fellow ministers. Not just one person is betrayed here. Wasn’t Chris married before met Missy Reed? I believe he had, when he was going to take Elder Audie McQuiston’s church in Liberal Kansas?

This isn’t 1953 anymore or even 1973. Our morals as a nation have slouched towards Gomorrah. Again, it’s the people who keep any church, cult, or ministry in power. Jim Jones didn’t murder 900 men, women, and children on his own. No dictator runs a country on their own. It takes a crowd, it takes followers. Who are all willing to walk right off the ecclesiastical cliff headlong into a pit.

Chris Reed had made predictions which failed? Biblically he should’ve lost his prophet license. Yet, he wasn’t sat down or drummed out of the core. No, the people love to have it so. Donations, tithes, and offerings still flow. When Bob Coy pastor of Calvary Chapel, Fort Lauderdale, was sleeping with his female saints. He was told to leave the church ( he started) by his church board. Yet it was the people who wanted him back. Our goal isn’t the pulpit. Our goal is our own well being, our peace of mind, our family, but most of all eternal life. These ministers believe they have to be on the platform. Not just as a star, but as a place of financial success. It’s their bread and butter. If they had to have a secular job or do this for free. Then honey child you’d see a whole lot less of individuals wanting to be in the pulpit.

I pray for Chris and Missy, I hope they live for Jesus Christ the rest of their days. But the pulpit, and platform is poison to Chris. Let’s just say this happening to him is a warning shot over his bow. Take it as such. But if he goes back into his dog and pony show? He’ll just learn to hide any improprieties better. Yet, no matter how clever an individual may think they are, something always leaks out.

Pray for Chris and Missy Reed.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 07:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617125)
It's confusing because Chris says he's leaving due to a scandal at MorningStar with some children being abused.

Then Chris admits to sexual misconduct for which he had already been reinstated

Then Rick says Chris is leaving because of some sort of deception.

And then Rick brings up cases of other people who failed and were deceived about their ministry being over.

It just doesn't tie together well. Maybe Rick is trying to shift the attention to Chris to cover over his own current scandal.

I think Chris thought he could leave by just saying it was because of the child molesting at Morning Star. But, Rick Joyner wasn’t going to go down like that. Chris the pious hero, defender of the weak, servant of the trembling souls. Who was once violated and now with noble brow leaving to do his own work. Nope, Rick wasn’t having any of that. So, he retorted with his own letter to the fans. Where he let them know his side of the story. Then Chris and Missy made their video which Tithemister posted in his fist post of this thread. As I had mentioned earlier in this thread, when you are in a hole you need to stop digging. Chris might of believed Joyner never would’ve brought up Chris’ situation to the public? Who knows. Anyway you slice this it’s bad.

I hope all involved find peace, and move on to sanity.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 07:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1617126)
When it’s all said and done, if they have their way, people will feel soooo blessed to have a leader who is an adulterer, or a thief, or a pedophile, or all of the above. The sad part is that he’ll probably be bigger than ever. All in the name of forgiveness. And tolerance. By the way, I’m definitely not excusing the behavior of the woman either. But she is the weaker vessel.

Is forgiveness available? Sure! But maybe he should be mowing the grass and cleaning the restrooms. He’s proven his leadership skills already.

Pastor at 25? How’d that work out? Maybe pay more attention to the instructions next time.

Now, I know young ministers who are super gifted, in SELF CONTROL!

If JESUS calls you, He will guide you. Spiritual gifts are awesome. But, SELF CONTROL can be obtained by Atheists to Hindu Elephant boys. If the secular world can knock out some home runs in SELF CONTROL, then it can be accomplished by a man or woman of God. Also weaker vessel? I’m not so sure. If a man is in leadership he needs to lead us around the pit. Not into them. He needs to have his head on straight. Hey accidents happen. They are unforeseen, no matter how watchful you may be. But adultery isn’t an accident by either party.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 08:57 AM

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These are the allegations against the individual who was part of Morningstar church. This was the individual Chris brings up in his letter concerning why he left.


https://www.wbtv.com/2023/05/03/corn...ct-with-minor/

Looks like God tells these prophets the most useless info. Oil rigs being knocked down in the Florida gulf. Presidents attempted assassinations. Pretty useless to your church family. But a sexual predator seemingly goes unnoticed by the Holy Ghost? Come on, think about it people. You telling me my address, or the location of my car keys, may help you to be a prophetical rock star, but doesn’t protect me and my family.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617125)
It's confusing because Chris says he's leaving due to a scandal at MorningStar with some children being abused.

Then Chris admits to sexual misconduct for which he had already been reinstated

Then Rick says Chris is leaving because of some sort of deception.

And then Rick brings up cases of other people who failed and were deceived about their ministry being over.

It just doesn't tie together well. Maybe Rick is trying to shift the attention to Chris to cover over his own current scandal.

Listen to this video and what this guy reports

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-1Oz8VnQg

Amanah 09-01-2024 12:13 PM

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Both Joyner and Reed are corrupt to the core and never intended to act with integrity. They are only trying to protect themselves. It's good that it's being exposed so that people can understand the deception and not be sucked in.

Like the Brandon Biggs guy, everyone was sharing his video including Apostolics. People are too easily sucked in to anything sensational.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 02:17 PM

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Here are two individuals who have some interesting things to say. I don't know anything about them. A young couples view of what is happening.

BREAKING: Chris Reed of MorningStar ADMITS to S*xu@L Misconduct!!! "I am fully to Blame"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMwTkLuZx_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMwTkLuZx_g

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617133)
Both Joyner and Reed are corrupt to the core and never intended to act with integrity. They are only trying to protect themselves. It's good that it's being exposed so that people can understand the deception and not be sucked in.

Like the Brandon Biggs guy, everyone was sharing his video including Apostolics. People are too easily sucked in to anything sensational.


John 10:27-28

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


John 16:13

But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He may hear, He will speak. And He will declare to you the things coming.

You have only one Pastor the Lord Jesus Christ. He speaks to you, and will guide you. In 1 Kings 13:11-25, an elder prophet lies to a young prophet. Both prophets God spoke through. Yet, the only one we are to listen to and obey is the True Prophet Jesus Christ. Cornelius was devoted to God, and therefore God reached out to Him. He had Cornelius send for the Apostle. Paul was devoted to God, and God reached out to Paul on the road to Damascus. Ethiopian Eunuch yearned to learn more of God, and God reached out to him by sending Phillip. Jesus is alive, and His sheep hear His voice, and will never follow the voice of strangers, they run from strangers like their hair is on fire. Rejoice in the Holy Ghost when you can identify the Brandon Biggs of this world. Rejoice when Jesus opens His word to you when you are in prayer. Even when you are sitting in a congregation and they are telling you that you are most likely a member of the 12 tribes, yet you don't know it. Jesus will guide you all the way, He is the Author and Finisher, of our story.

We might get lost on this journey, wander off the path, but we hear the Master calling us back to the fold. There are some old lying prophets and some stupid young ones. Yet, anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand! That the voice of Jesus Christ who speaks to everyone else in parables speaks to you clearly Matthew 13:17.

Brandon Biggs of this world are ignored by the Master's children.

Tithesmeister 09-01-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617135)
John 10:27-28

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


John 16:13

But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He may hear, He will speak. And He will declare to you the things coming.

You have only one Pastor the Lord Jesus Christ. He speaks to you, and will guide you. In 1 Kings 13:11-25, an elder prophet lies to a young prophet. Both prophets God spoke through. Yet, the only one we are to listen to and obey is the True Prophet Jesus Christ. Cornelius was devoted to God, and therefore God reached out to Him. He had Cornelius send for the Apostle. Paul was devoted to God, and God reached out to Paul on the road to Damascus. Ethiopian Eunuch yearned to learn more of God, and God reached out to him by sending Phillip. Jesus is alive, and His sheep hear His voice, and will never follow the voice of strangers, they run from strangers like their hair is on fire. Rejoice in the Holy Ghost when you can identify the Brandon Biggs of this world. Rejoice when Jesus opens His word to you when you are in prayer. Even when you are sitting in a congregation and they are telling you that you are most likely a member of the 12 tribes, yet you don't know it. Jesus will guide you all the way, He is the Author and Finisher, of our story.

We might get lost on this journey, wander off the path, but we hear the Master calling us back to the fold. There are some old lying prophets and some stupid young ones. Yet, anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand! That the voice of Jesus Christ who speaks to everyone else in parables speaks to you clearly Matthew 13:17.

Brandon Biggs of this world are ignored by the Master's children.

Amen brother! Thank you for that.

Esaias 09-01-2024 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1617135)
John 10:27-28

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


John 16:13

But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He may hear, He will speak. And He will declare to you the things coming.

You have only one Pastor the Lord Jesus Christ. He speaks to you, and will guide you. In 1 Kings 13:11-25, an elder prophet lies to a young prophet. Both prophets God spoke through. Yet, the only one we are to listen to and obey is the True Prophet Jesus Christ. Cornelius was devoted to God, and therefore God reached out to Him. He had Cornelius send for the Apostle. Paul was devoted to God, and God reached out to Paul on the road to Damascus. Ethiopian Eunuch yearned to learn more of God, and God reached out to him by sending Phillip. Jesus is alive, and His sheep hear His voice, and will never follow the voice of strangers, they run from strangers like their hair is on fire. Rejoice in the Holy Ghost when you can identify the Brandon Biggs of this world. Rejoice when Jesus opens His word to you when you are in prayer. Even when you are sitting in a congregation and they are telling you that you are most likely a member of the 12 tribes, yet you don't know it. Jesus will guide you all the way, He is the Author and Finisher, of our story.

We might get lost on this journey, wander off the path, but we hear the Master calling us back to the fold. There are some old lying prophets and some stupid young ones. Yet, anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand! That the voice of Jesus Christ who speaks to everyone else in parables speaks to you clearly Matthew 13:17.

Brandon Biggs of this world are ignored by the Master's children.

Isaiah 30:19-21 KJV
For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee. [20] And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: [21] And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Tithesmeister 09-01-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1617137)
Isaiah 30:19-21 KJV
For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee. [20] And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: [21] And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Great passage. Highly relevant.

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1617137)
Isaiah 30:19-21 KJV
For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee. [20] And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: [21] And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Beautiful in Jesus name. ❤️

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 04:28 PM

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The girl who was involved with Chris went to the church first. Chris and the woman sat in front of the elders and told them what happened? After this, Rick Joyner made Chris Bishop. Dumpster FIRE!!!! Morning Star is a Circus Train Wreck. No decrement! But in this video Rick Joyner opens his veins in front of his church family. Damage control with Kamala Harris style. He tells his congregation that putting someone with issues in the pulpit and over the church is restoration. Burning wreckage.


MorningStar Fellowship Church | Sunday Service 11:00am

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOX_EaPsj6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOX_EaPsj6A

Tithesmeister 09-01-2024 04:35 PM

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I’d like to share some thoughts. This may take a bit, so you’ve been warned.

Over the years I’ve been able to locate some sort of vacation getaways to take my family to that are wholesome, enjoyable locations that allow us to enjoy some new scenery, possibly nicer weather, and maybe a culture where your faith is not under constant and blatant as well as hostile attack. Maybe a mountain town that seems to be less marred by whatever the latest attack on faith and family will be.

I’ve noticed that, (would you believe) I am not the only one who is drawn to this sort of getaway. Incredibly homosexuals are attracted to wholesome, beautiful, and perhaps quaint places as well. I may actually see a few couples, not so many, but it seems that the word gets out. Eventually it gets to be known as a place for them to go and have their gay pride this or that. Think of it as a camp meeting for the gays. Since I’m uncomfortable being around this culture, especially with my family I have to try and find another wholesome, enjoyable place to take my family for a long weekend. Meanwhile, where I did go, the businesses have to adapt. They learn to cater to the gay whatever crowd. This gets the word out that they are “gay friendly” in “Mayberry”. So more gay pride events are scheduled. Which causes the businesses to be even more friendly towards this specific clientele. So it creates a phenomenon that feeds on itself. Soon the families go elsewhere. The gay pride events take over. And eventually the place becomes known for homosexuality, and little else.

Meanwhile, I’ve taken my family and found another wholesome, family friendly place to vacation. Families don’t go to Mayberry anymore. These types of places are no longer wholesome or family friendly. They have effectively screened the wholesome families out. Now they begin to resemble Sodom and Gomorrah. Families avoid them at all costs.

Now let’s talk about the Catholic Church. They have long been known to have issues with homosexuality and pedophilia. It didn’t happen overnight. They had some doctrine that complicated natural relationships. This led to problems. It became a not very well kept secret that there were both homosexuals and pedophiles in the “church”. The church covered it up. This made for a culture that was seen to be homophonic and pedophile friendly. Which attracted more of the same, AAAAND discouraged those who didn’t “struggle” with those issues from applying. Once more it fed on itself. It gained momentum. The more problems arose, the more the Catholic Church covered it up. The more they covered it up, the more they attracted the kind that they were covering for. And we know where that brought them.

Now let’s talk about the Pentecostal/Apostolic churches. . .

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1617141)
I’d like to share some thoughts. This may take a bit, so you’ve been warned.

Over the years I’ve been able to locate some sort of vacation getaways to take my family to that are wholesome, enjoyable locations that allow us to enjoy some new scenery, possibly nicer weather, and maybe a culture where your faith is not under constant and blatant as well as hostile attack. Maybe a mountain town that seems to be less marred by whatever the latest attack on faith and family will be.

I’ve noticed that, (would you believe) I am not the only one who is drawn to this sort of getaway. Incredibly homosexuals are attracted to wholesome, beautiful, and perhaps quaint places as well. I may actually see a few couples, not so many, but it seems that the word gets out. Eventually it gets to be known as a place for them to go and have their gay pride this or that. Think of it as a camp meeting for the gays. Since I’m uncomfortable being around this culture, especially with my family I have to try and find another wholesome, enjoyable place to take my family for a long weekend. Meanwhile, where I did go, the businesses have to adapt. They learn to cater to the gay whatever crowd. This gets the word out that they are “gay friendly” in “Mayberry”. So more gay pride events are scheduled. Which causes the businesses to be even more friendly towards this specific clientele. So it creates a phenomenon that feeds on itself. Soon the families go elsewhere. The gay pride events take over. And eventually the place becomes known for homosexuality, and little else.

Meanwhile, I’ve taken my family and found another wholesome, family friendly place to vacation. Families don’t go to Mayberry anymore. These types of places are no longer wholesome or family friendly. They have effectively screened the wholesome families out. Now they begin to resemble Sodom and Gomorrah. Families avoid them at all costs.

Now let’s talk about the Catholic Church. They have long been known to have issues with homosexuality and pedophilia. It didn’t happen overnight. They had some doctrine that complicated natural relationships. This led to problems. It became a not very well kept secret that there were both homosexuals and pedophiles in the “church”. The church covered it up. This made for a culture that was seen to be homophonic and pedophile friendly. Which attracted more of the same, AAAAND discouraged those who didn’t “struggle” with those issues from applying. Once more it fed on itself. It gained momentum. The more problems arose, the more the Catholic Church covered it up. The more they covered it up, the more they attracted the kind that they were covering for. And we know where that brought them.

Now let’s talk about the Pentecostal/Apostolic churches. . .

https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.co...16&postcount=1

Amanah 09-01-2024 05:08 PM

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To my beloved brethren, and sincere seekers of salvation who I meet at the door, I look like cherry cheesecake. But, to troublemakers and Satanic interlopers who try to enter the door, I look like Darth Maul.

https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.co...pictureid=1687

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1617143)
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