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chosenbyone 06-30-2007 09:45 AM

Speaking the Truth in Love
 
A young boy and his stepfather had difficulty communicating with each other. The man was outgoing; the boy was quiet. The elder loved to fish; the youngster loved to read.

The stepfather, wanting to get close to the boy, took him on a fishing trip. The boy hated it but didn't know how to tell his stepfather directly. So he wrote him a note saying he wanted to go home. The man looked at it and stuck it in his pocket.

The fishing trip continued 4 more days. When they finally returned home, the boy shared his frustration with his mother and told her that his stepfather had paid no attention to his note. His mother said to him, "Son, your father can't read." The man had never shared this with the boy.

Good communication occurs not only when we know what we want to say, but also when we know the person to whom we are speaking. And to know one another requires a willingness to let others know our weaknesses and limitations.

Paul urged us as believers to speak truthfully with each other (Ephesians 4:25). He also admonished us to be "kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another" (v.32). That's Christlike love, and it provides the security in which good communication can thrive.

RevDWW 06-30-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 172878)
A young boy and his stepfather had difficulty communicating with each other. The man was outgoing; the boy was quiet. The elder loved to fish; the youngster loved to read.

The stepfather, wanting to get close to the boy, took him on a fishing trip. The boy hated it but didn't know how to tell his stepfather directly. So he wrote him a note saying he wanted to go home. The man looked at it and stuck it in his pocket.

The fishing trip continued 4 more days. When they finally returned home, the boy shared his frustration with his mother and told her that his stepfather had paid no attention to his note. His mother said to him, "Son, your father can't read." The man had never shared this with the boy.

Good communication occurs not only when we know what we want to say, but also when we know the person to whom we are speaking. And to know one another requires a willingness to let others know our weaknesses and limitations.

Paul urged us as believers to speak truthfully with each other (Ephesians 4:25). He also admonished us to be "kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another" (v.32). That's Christlike love, and it provides the security in which good communication can thrive.

Didn't Paul write in a exception for Forums?

Seriously, Good Post!

CC1 06-30-2007 10:12 AM

I can relate. Two summers ago my son who was 18 at the time bought his first motorcycle. I was excited because I envisioned hours upon hours of us riding together on weekends around Middle Tennessee and maybe beyond.

We have only gone riding a few times and after the last time when I was excitedly talking about our next ride he told me that he doesn't like just riding to ride. He likes to be "going somewhere".

Turns out he enjoys his motorcycle but only in the context of riding it to do something with his friends like disc golf,etc. I love riding just for the sheer joy of it and looking at and smelling the beautiful countryside around here.

chosenbyone 06-30-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 172879)
Didn't Paul write in a exception for Forums?

Seriously, Good Post!

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it....

God bless you.

chosenbyone 06-30-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 172884)
I can relate. Two summers ago my son who was 18 at the time bought his first motorcycle. I was excited because I envisioned hours upon hours of us riding together on weekends around Middle Tennessee and maybe beyond.

We have only gone riding a few times and after the last time when I was excitedly talking about our next ride he told me that he doesn't like just riding to ride. He likes to be "going somewhere".

Turns out he enjoys his motorcycle but only in the context of riding it to do something with his friends like disc golf,etc. I love riding just for the sheer joy of it and looking at and smelling the beautiful countryside around here.

My natural father and I didn't see or speak to each other in nearly 30 years. It has been a year and half since he moved back to Texas from Connecticut and he and I have had to work at communicating with one another. I have always believed it was harder for men (fathers and sons especially) to be able to effectively communicate with one another. As far as your son, CC1, he will one day realize the value of having a good father. He must go through this stage like all of us did at one time.

God bless you and your family.

Falla39 06-30-2007 07:30 PM

Speaking the Truth in Love
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 172944)
My natural father and I didn't see or speak to each other in nearly 30 years. It has been a year and half since he moved back to Texas from Connecticut and he and I have had to work at communicating with one another. I have always believed it was harder for men (fathers and sons especially) to be able to effectively communicate with one another. As far as your son, CC1, he will one day realize the value of having a good father. He must go through this stage like all of us did at one time.
God bless you and your family.

Bro. Chosen,

And how many of us had no idea until years later what a wonderful

heavenly Father we had. And there are also fathers who realized what

wonderful sons they had when they took time to get to really "know"

and communicate with them. How many regret they had not got closer

to each other sooner. The same applies to mothers and daughters. Or

fathers and daughters, and mothers and sons.

What is needed is more of the love of God shed abroad in our hearts by

the Holy Ghost.

Blessings,

Falla39

chosenbyone 06-30-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 173037)
Bro. Chosen,

And how many of us had no idea until years later what a wonderful

heavenly Father we had. And there are also fathers who realized what

wonderful sons they had when they took time to get to really "know"

and communicate with them. How many regret they had not got closer

to each other sooner. The same applies to mothers and daughters. Or

fathers and daughters, and mothers and sons.

What is needed is more of the love of God shed abroad in our hearts by

the Holy Ghost.

Blessings,

Falla39


Sister Falla,

It was many years before I could conceptualize that I had a heavenly Father, because of not knowing my earthly father most of my life. The day that I received an email from my father was the day that my Lord gave me the biggest desire of my heart. I never thought that after all those years that he would reach out to me.

Through some very tough and at times uncomfortable conversations, we were able, through the guidance of the Lord, to lay down the memories of the past and live in a state of forgiveness. Though we aren't close in the traditional sense, God has continued to strengthen our relationship and I have treasured every moment spent with him.

I could never thank God enough for all the blessings and goodness He has shown me. This disease that I have today was used by our Lord to heal so many areas of my life. It was no coincidence that my father contacted me, because when he was told about my condition, he wanted to make sure that I knew that he loved me.

It was Christmas Eve before last when I drove to his home to meet him, his wife and my dad's mother who was in her late eighties. When my dad opened that door there was no bitterness, no pain, only love, hugs and tears. That was exactly how Jesus welcomed me when I had transgressed against Him, which caused our relationship to become splintered. What a comfort to know that He cared and loved me regardless of what I thought of myself or what others had said about me.

The one thing that God desires most from His children is a relationship, much like our fathers here on earth. I am thankful that I can experience both!

chosen

Falla39 07-01-2007 03:11 PM

Speaking the Truth in Love
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 173086)
Sister Falla,

It was many years before I could conceptualize that I had a heavenly Father, because of not knowing my earthly father most of my life. The day that I received an email from my father was the day that my Lord gave me the biggest desire of my heart. I never thought that after all those years that he would reach out to me.

Through some very tough and at times uncomfortable conversations, we were able, through the guidance of the Lord, to lay down the memories of the past and live in a state of forgiveness. Though we aren't close in the traditional sense, God has continued to strengthen our relationship and I have treasured every moment spent with him.

I could never thank God enough for all the blessings and goodness He has shown me. This disease that I have today was used by our Lord to heal so many areas of my life. It was no coincidence that my father contacted me, because when he was told about my condition, he wanted to make sure that I knew that he loved me.

It was Christmas Eve before last when I drove to his home to meet him, his wife and my dad's mother who was in her late eighties. When my dad opened that door there was no bitterness, no pain, only love, hugs and tears. That was exactly how Jesus welcomed me when I had transgressed against Him, which caused our relationship to become splintered. What a comfort to know that He cared and loved me regardless of what I thought of myself or what others had said about me.

The one thing that God desires most from His children is a relationship, much like our fathers here on earth. I am thankful that I can experience both!

chosen

Dear Bro. Chosen,

Perhaps that is why I can understand why someone who was baptized

as a child, especially if that person had fell into sin and drawn away. If

we can come back again to the Father, why can't we have those sins

washed way. It would seem to me we would want to be cleaned up,

washed and made clean again. Could it be possible that children haven't felt

or realized what sin really was. until they have felt the guilt associated with

it. Why does SO many of our youth leave the church. The prodigal was

young but learned after he had left the safety of the Father's house that

home never looked so good. No, I don't think that everyone has to go out

and live a lifetime of sin, to learn. However, I do believe there are those

who have missed or failed God who probably never left the Father's house

or church, but recognized what they had done and repented. Perhaps they

would not feel the need to be re-baptized. I personally feel it speaks well of

a person who has confessed open sin that is known, to humble themselves

and to desire and to ask to be re-baptized or have the old man of sin re-

buried. One thing about it, after we have emptied out all self, and our vessel

is throughly purged and cleansed. it is up to God to do with us as He pleases.

He just might have a purified vessel useable for His glory. The old song of the

church stills sounds good to those who feel their need of it.

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound.
That saves a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now I'm found,
Was blind but now I see.

Through many dangers, toils and snares,
I have already come. His grace has brought
Me safe thus far. And His grace will lead me
home.

When we've been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the Sun. We've no less days
To sing God's praise. Than when we first begun.

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath

appeared to all men, Teaching us that denying un-

godliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly,

righteously and godly, in this present world; Looking

for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of

the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave

himself for us, that he might purify unto himself a

peculiar people, zealous of good works.

God's Amazing Grace is still teaching us, if we will but

have a teachable spirit. A hearing ear and a seeing eye.

Let's follow on to know Him better, in Jesus Name.

Blessings,

Falla39

Rhoni 07-03-2007 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 173086)
Sister Falla,

It was many years before I could conceptualize that I had a heavenly Father, because of not knowing my earthly father most of my life. The day that I received an email from my father was the day that my Lord gave me the biggest desire of my heart. I never thought that after all those years that he would reach out to me.

Through some very tough and at times uncomfortable conversations, we were able, through the guidance of the Lord, to lay down the memories of the past and live in a state of forgiveness. Though we aren't close in the traditional sense, God has continued to strengthen our relationship and I have treasured every moment spent with him.

I could never thank God enough for all the blessings and goodness He has shown me. This disease that I have today was used by our Lord to heal so many areas of my life. It was no coincidence that my father contacted me, because when he was told about my condition, he wanted to make sure that I knew that he loved me.

It was Christmas Eve before last when I drove to his home to meet him, his wife and my dad's mother who was in her late eighties. When my dad opened that door there was no bitterness, no pain, only love, hugs and tears. That was exactly how Jesus welcomed me when I had transgressed against Him, which caused our relationship to become splintered. What a comfort to know that He cared and loved me regardless of what I thought of myself or what others had said about me.

The one thing that God desires most from His children is a relationship, much like our fathers here on earth. I am thankful that I can experience both!

chosen

Chosen,

You are not alone in this. Many people have a skewed sense of God being compared to a father because many have what counselors refer to as "The Father Wound". You were fortunate to have a reconciliation with your earthly father, many do not have that opportunity or that point of reference.

You are correct, God wants/desires relationship or else why would he have even bothered with us. The Father's love is so fathomless that he would sacrifice his own son to not only gain back his son, but all his children who have wandered off into the sin of this world.

This is not the only relationship that Christ wants. He compares his church to that of a bride. We are engaged to him, but we "go out on him" following after other lovers. He, like Hosea, goes out into the streets seeking to find his bride, he finds her, cleans her up, forgives her, covers her, and will present to Himself a bride having no spot or blemish....How wonderful is that?

God created us to have relationships with each other and Him self. I do believe the angels envy us our position. I am so glad to be a friend of God, and a friend of Bro. Chosen. I am looking forward, with great, anticipation to this weekend...just one of the many opportunites to share with friends...now and then.
:fireworks
Blessings & Prayers,
Sis. Rhonda

Pressing-On 07-03-2007 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 173086)
Sister Falla,

It was many years before I could conceptualize that I had a heavenly Father, because of not knowing my earthly father most of my life. The day that I received an email from my father was the day that my Lord gave me the biggest desire of my heart. I never thought that after all those years that he would reach out to me.

Through some very tough and at times uncomfortable conversations, we were able, through the guidance of the Lord, to lay down the memories of the past and live in a state of forgiveness. Though we aren't close in the traditional sense, God has continued to strengthen our relationship and I have treasured every moment spent with him.

I could never thank God enough for all the blessings and goodness He has shown me. This disease that I have today was used by our Lord to heal so many areas of my life. It was no coincidence that my father contacted me, because when he was told about my condition, he wanted to make sure that I knew that he loved me.

It was Christmas Eve before last when I drove to his home to meet him, his wife and my dad's mother who was in her late eighties. When my dad opened that door there was no bitterness, no pain, only love, hugs and tears. That was exactly how Jesus welcomed me when I had transgressed against Him, which caused our relationship to become splintered. What a comfort to know that He cared and loved me regardless of what I thought of myself or what others had said about me.

The one thing that God desires most from His children is a relationship, much like our fathers here on earth. I am thankful that I can experience both!

chosen


Beautiful story, Chosen!

DividedThigh 07-03-2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 174566)
Beautiful story, Chosen!

really nice chosen, we many times just dont know the people that are around us, god is so special to me, always listens and never leaves. Even in our failures and darkest hours he understands us, in spite of really knowing us, dt

Coonskinner 07-03-2007 08:02 AM

Read a short story by Hemingway called "The Capital of the World." It is very moving, and came quickly to my mind when I read this thread this morning.

I too was over 30 years old and already pastoring a church before i really was able to view God as my Father in a positive sense.

My relationship with my own dad was very bad. It ranged from at best indifferent in good times horrible most of the time.

But God is patient and He is faithful, and time has a way of healing all wounds if we let Him help us.

My dad died when he was pretty young, a consequence of a hellbent lifestyle of drugs, alcohol, carousing, and general hooliganism.

I had often made the statement that I always felt like an orphan, and had never known what it was to have a father...

One day the Lord spoke to me after I said something like that and said, "Have not I been a Father to you?"

My heart smote me and I broke down sobbing and repenting, and resolved never to make those kinds of statements again.

Since that time, a lot of healing has come my way.

Ronzo 07-03-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 174620)
I had often made the statement that I always felt like an orphan, and had never known what it was to have a father...

One day the Lord spoke to me after I said something like that and said, "Have not I been a Father to you?"

My heart smote me and I broke down sobbing and repenting, and resolved never to make those kinds of statements again.

Since that time, a lot of healing has come my way.

I'm living this right now... I'm really just coming to the realization that you have already come through...

It's saddening to me that it's taken this long...

Coonskinner 07-03-2007 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 174625)
I'm living this right now... I'm really just coming to the realization that you have already come through...

It's saddening to me that it's taken this long...

PM incoming.

chosenbyone 07-03-2007 10:01 AM

There has always been a need for every child to know the security of a loving father and unfortunately there continues to be countess boys and girls that have to travel the painful road of the fatherless. Let us keep those children and those that are now adults who suffer from not having the love of an earthly father in our prayers.

Thank you all for sharing on this thread. Ronzo and CS thank you very much for sharing. We need more men like you show others that they are not alone when it comes to this subject.

At the end of "Father's Love Letter', there is a link to a special article that I feel will be a blessing to you.

Father's Love Letter

My Child
You may not know me, but I know everything about you Psalm 139:1
I know when you sit down and when you rise up Psalm 139:2
I am familiar with all your ways Psalm 139:3
Even the very hairs on your head are numbered Matthew 10:29-31
For you were made in my image Genesis 1:27
In me you live and move and have your being Acts 17:28
For you are my offspring Acts 17:28
I knew you even before you were conceived Jeremiah 1:4-5
I chose you when I planned creation Ephesians 1:11-12
You were not a mistake, for all your days are written in my book Psalm 139:15-16
I determined the exact time of your birth and where you would live Acts 17:26
You are fearfully and wonderfully made Psalm 139:14
I knit you together in your mother's womb Psalm 139:13
And brought you forth on the day you were born Psalm 71:6
I have been misrepresented by those who don't know me John 8:41-44
I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of love 1 John 4:16
And it is my desire to lavish my love on you 1 John 3:1
Simply because you are my child and I am your father 1 John 3:1
I offer you more than your earthly father ever could Matthew 7:11
For I am the perfect father Matthew 5:48
Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand James 1:17
For I am your provider and I meet all your needs Matthew 6:31-33
My plan for your future has always been filled with hope Jeremiah 29:11
Because I love you with an everlasting love Jeremiah 31:3
My thoughts toward you are countless as the sand on the seashore Psalm 139:17-18
And I rejoice over you with singing Zephaniah 3:17
I will never stop doing good to you Jeremiah 32:40
For you are my treasured possession Exodus 19:5
I desire to establish you with all my heart and all my soul Jeremiah 32:41
And I want to show you great and marvelous things Jeremiah 33:3
If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me Deuteronomy 4:29
Delight in me and I will give you the desires of your heart Psalm 37:4
For it is I who gave you those desires Philippians 2:13
I am able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine Ephesians 3:20
For I am your greatest encourager 2 Thessalonians 2:16-17
I am also the Father who comforts you in all your troubles 2 Corinthians 1:3-4
When you are brokenhearted, I am close to you Psalm 34:18
As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to my heart Isaiah 40:11
One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes Revelation 21:3-4
And I'll take away all the pain you have suffered on this earth Revelation 21:3-4
I am your Father, and I love you even as I love my son, Jesus John 17:23
For in Jesus, my love for you is revealed John 17:26
He is the exact representation of my being Hebrews 1:3
He came to demonstrate that I am for you, not against you Romans 8:31
And to tell you that I am not counting your sins 2 Corinthians 5:18-19
Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled 2 Corinthians 5:18-19
His death was the ultimate expression of my love for you 1 John 4:10
I gave up everything I loved that I might gain your love Romans 8:31-32
If you receive the gift of my son Jesus, you receive me 1 John 2:23
And nothing will ever separate you from my love again Romans 8:38-39
Come home and I'll throw the biggest party heaven has ever seen Luke 15:7
I have always been Father, and will always be Father Ephesians 3:14-15
My question is Will you be my child? John 1:12-13
I am waiting for you Luke 15:11-32
Love, Your Dad. Almighty God



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RevDWW 07-03-2007 10:12 AM

At one point years ago I was discouraged because it seemed that my ministry was hampered because I didn't have a father in the ministry. I was whining to the Lord in prayer and He not so gently reminded me that He was my Father and that all things are possible through Him. If He opens a door no man can shut it and if He closes it no man can open.


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