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Scott Hutchinson 07-02-2007 04:53 PM

Can Females Pastor ?
 
Can a woman be a Pastor of a local assembly ?
It this scriptural or agains't scripture?
Does the Bible permit or forbid a woman to oversee a local church ?

Rico 07-02-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 174286)
Can a woman be a Pastor of a local assembly ?
It this scriptural or agains't scripture?
Does the Bible permit or forbid a woman to oversee a local church ?

Brother, I've seen this topic hashed out quite a few times. At least it hasn't been discussed around here in a good long time. Personally, I don't have a problem with a woman preacher, but I don't think I would have a woman pastor.

Sister Alvear 07-02-2007 04:57 PM

been down this road before...shall I paste my book here? ha....

Scott Hutchinson 07-02-2007 05:00 PM

Go ahead ,and paste your book ,and Elder Epley can paste his.
In love how can a woman ,be a husband of one wife ?
I want to study this again ,I'm open minded.

Rico 07-02-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 174293)
Go ahead ,and paste your book ,and Elder Epley can paste his.
In love how can a woman ,be a husband of one wife ?
I want to study this again ,I'm open minded.

How can a single man be the husband of any wife? That hasn't stopped single men from going into the ministry.

ILG 07-02-2007 05:12 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

Fonix 07-02-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174296)
How can a single man be the husband of any wife? That hasn't stopped single men from going into the ministry.


You know Rico, Thats something I had never even thought of in all the discussion I have ever heard about this subject. Maybe someone could expound on this.

MrsMcD 07-02-2007 05:43 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with it but I wouldn't want a female pastor.

Rico 07-02-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonix (Post 174317)
You know Rico, Thats something I had never even thought of in all the discussion I have ever heard about this subject. Maybe someone could expound on this.

Brother, that very scripture kept me out of ministry all during my time in the ultra conservative church I attended. They believed it meant pre and post conversion. I have been married twice and they didn't like that.

Fonix 07-02-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174325)
Brother, that very scripture kept me out of ministry all during my time in the ultra conservative church I attended. They believed it meant pre and post conversion. I have been married twice and they didn't like that.


Maybe Im way off base here but couldnt that mean multipule wives as in pologamy?

Thumper 07-02-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonix (Post 174317)
You know Rico, Thats something I had never even thought of in all the discussion I have ever heard about this subject. Maybe someone could expound on this.

A single man could BECOME the husband of one wife. A woman could never. :)

Thumper 07-02-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174325)
Brother, that very scripture kept me out of ministry all during my time in the ultra conservative church I attended. They believed it meant pre and post conversion. I have been married twice and they didn't like that.

That is unfortunate. Judgement must begin at the house of God. If it doesn't then we are all in big trouble.

MrsMcD 07-02-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 174333)
That is unfortunate. Judgement must begin at the house of God. If it doesn't then we are all in big trouble.

I know of at least one pastor that was married in the church, his wife left him, he remarried and was still able to get his license.

Sandra 07-02-2007 06:46 PM

Yes, my grandmother Pastored for about 50 years , a great church.

chaotic_resolve 07-02-2007 06:51 PM

Sis Angnes Rich pastored a church for a long time before she passed away. She was the author of the book "Angel At My Shoulder", and I believe was Sis. Thetus Tenney's sister.

She was an incredible woman of God and went through a lot with her Christian church school.

CupCake 07-02-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 174286)
Can a woman be a Pastor of a local assembly ?
It this scriptural or agains't scripture?
Does the Bible permit or forbid a woman to oversee a local church ?

Yes she can~

Jack Shephard 07-02-2007 07:18 PM

In the day we live, the day where women can work outside the home; the day were women can hold local, statewide, and national office; in a day where women can be just about anything in the work force of sports broadcasting that has been basically male driven for years. Why can't they not be leaders in the spiritual field, infact, some would say they have power on their head...another discussion for another day; most of you know how I feel about the hair thing; so why couldn't a women become a pastor or be a spiritual leader over a group of people?


Some make agruements about respect and the man being the head of the house. Fair arguements. I disagree. For in Acts 2:17 says, "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams." Tie that with the Great Commison that teaches us to reach out to the lost.

Here is my conclusion of my point. I feel that women can be pastors. Though not a solo pastor. I feel the same way for a man. I feel that a man should not pastor being a single man. This does not mean that he needs to resign if his spouse dies, but to have never been married before and be a single pastor male or female is a problem waiting to happen. I feel that if God has called the women to pastor then He will also put a man or husband over her to submit to. I feel that a women can pastor in ever way that a man can, but the husband should be the spiritual lead of their home, as well as the final say in the ministry. Just as in a man ministry he listens to his wife she should likewise do the same. IMO. I love women preachers. You ever hear of Sheryl Brady?

http://www.sherylbradyministries.com/

That girl can preach!

SarahElizabeth 07-02-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 174343)
I know of at least one pastor that was married in the church, his wife left him, he remarried and was still able to get his license.

I know a UPC pastor who's had 5 wives - no kidding. I know the officials above him were aware of some of them. Not sure if they knew about all 5. I am not going to comment about how I feel about this.

Monkeyman 07-02-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahElizabeth (Post 174393)
I know a UPC pastor who's had 5 wives - no kidding. I know the officials above him were aware of some of them. Not sure if they knew about all 5. I am not going to comment about how I feel about this.

?????????????????? Splain yourself

SarahElizabeth 07-02-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 174395)
?????????????????? Splain yourself

Explain myself about what??..My post is very straight-forward, but I don't care to give my opinion on how I personally feel about this type of thing. He only has 1 now and had 1 at a time - but he's had 5.

MLuther2099 07-02-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 174374)
Here is my conclusion of my point. I feel that women can be pastors. Though not a solo pastor. I feel the same way for a man. I feel that a man should not pastor being a single man. This does not mean that he needs to resign if his spouse dies, but to have never been married before and be a single pastor male or female is a problem waiting to happen.

So, God called me to become a pastor at 19, I ran for 5 years, then said yes, went to seminary for a few years, God points me in the direction of church planting and the role of a teaching pastor/elder last year, and I now have to sit around and wait on a wife?

What? So, is the first step for me to fulfill my calling is to get a lady to say yes? Am I missing the point?

Expound on your point, because I know you have a good intention but it really sucks for me...haha

Coonskinner 07-02-2007 07:59 PM

A dog can walk on its hind legs, but it never does look right.:)

SarahElizabeth 07-02-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 174413)
A dog can walk on its hind legs, but it never does look right.:)

Some dogs don't look right walking on all four legs. :heeheehee

Monkeyman 07-02-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahElizabeth (Post 174397)
Explain myself about what??..My post is very straight-forward, but I don't care to give my opinion on how I personally feel about this type of thing. He only has 1 now and had 1 at a time - but he's had 5.

That is what I was getting at...thought you lived in Utah:killinme

Tech 07-02-2007 08:07 PM

I have been kicked out of two forums on this subject.LOL:tissue

Rico 07-02-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 174333)
That is unfortunate. Judgement must begin at the house of God. If it doesn't then we are all in big trouble.

Well, I never could get a straight answer from anyone on why it was ok, on this one issue, to go through the blood and hold it against me. But, that's all water under the bridge now and there's nothing I can do to get that time back. I was just talking with a friend of mine the other day about how one of the bigggest reasons I am not going to church right now is because I already know what's going to happen when I get so far in the whole thing. I'm not willing to be willing to go along with what I feel are extra biblical add ons to be able to move forward in ministry. I know eventually I am going to have to get back to being willing to be willing though.

Rico 07-02-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MLuther2099 (Post 174412)
So, God called me to become a pastor at 19, I ran for 5 years, then said yes, went to seminary for a few years, God points me in the direction of church planting and the role of a teaching pastor/elder last year, and I now have to sit around and wait on a wife?

What? So, is the first step for me to fulfill my calling is to get a lady to say yes? Am I missing the point?

Expound on your point, because I know you have a good intention but it really sucks for me...haha

If the scripture is to be taken literally, then a man should be married when seeking the office.

Timmy 07-02-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174440)
Well, I never could get a straight answer from anyone on why it was ok, on this one issue, to go through the blood and hold it against me. But, that's all water under the bridge now and there's nothing I can do to get that time back. I was just talking with a friend of mine the other day about how one of the bigggest reasons I am not going to church right now is because I already know what's going to happen when I get so far in the whole thing. I'm not willing to be willing to go along with what I feel are extra biblical add ons to be able to move forward in ministry. I know eventually I am going to have to get back to being willing to be willing though.

So, you're willing to be willing to be willing?

Rico 07-02-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 174446)
So, you're willing to be willing to be willing?

Not when it comes to some things.

Hoovie 07-02-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 174413)
A dog can walk on its hind legs, but it never does look right.:)

LOL!!

Yeah, what he said!

MLuther2099 07-02-2007 09:11 PM

guess I should start praying for a wife instead of reaching my city for God. ;-)

Hoovie 07-02-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MLuther2099 (Post 174459)
guess I should start praying for a wife instead of reaching my city for God. ;-)

Hey life moves fast! It's called multi-tasking!

Sister Alvear 07-02-2007 09:37 PM

Looking for pastors for jungle area males or females...

Sam 07-02-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 174293)
...
In love how can a woman ,be a husband of one wife ?
...

The same way that Phoebe, "a deacon of the church in Cenchrea" (Romans 16:1) could be the husband of one wife (1 Timothy 3:12).

Sam 07-02-2007 09:49 PM

Can females pastor?

In my opinion, Yes

Sister Alvear 07-02-2007 09:51 PM

That is not my calling but I deeply respect anyone that goes into the ripe harvest fields...

pelathais 07-02-2007 10:07 PM

Wow. I've known men who were the "victims" in a divorce proceeding and were allowed to remarry and keep their credentials.

I've known of a few widowers who remarried - and were criticised by some for it - yet they have still gone on effectively; two rather prominent ones.

But 5? Are they all deceased? Or some of them? Wow.

pelathais 07-02-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174440)
Well, I never could get a straight answer from anyone on why it was ok, on this one issue, to go through the blood and hold it against me. But, that's all water under the bridge now and there's nothing I can do to get that time back.

I admire the patience you display here, brother. The thing is, if you go to another district or part of the country you will find other men on other boards who follow a different standard. Or wait a while in the same place and things can change dramatically.

I know of one preacher who would never let his grandson preach because the younger man's wife deserted him. And then again, I know of one who spoke openly about how his board could help another preacher cover up his adultery. "Standards" seem to swing very crazily sometimes and there's not always much justice involved. (And in both cases the leaders were considered "conservatives.")

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 174440)
I was just talking with a friend of mine the other day about how one of the bigggest reasons I am not going to church right now is because I already know what's going to happen when I get so far in the whole thing. I'm not willing to be willing to go along with what I feel are extra biblical add ons to be able to move forward in ministry. I know eventually I am going to have to get back to being willing to be willing though.

Don't sell yourself short. You've got something important to share. Try and find an outlet for the "urge" you feel to preach and then watch and see what doors the Lord will open.

Sister Alvear 07-03-2007 07:33 AM

The Lord is looking for willing vessels...pray much...walk through the doors He opens...be kind to those who differ with you.
Many times people have differed with me but we are friends. The only people I stay away from are cult like chrches but other than that I have friends in many circles. YOU DO NOT ave to see ee to eye to be a friend.

Jack Shephard 07-03-2007 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MLuther2099 (Post 174459)
guess I should start praying for a wife instead of reaching my city for God. ;-)

That would be a great idea. HA. The truth is that inorder to be affective in leading a church you need to be affective at leading a family. I have known people to pastor and be a single man. I have no problem with someone being single and pastor, but it is tough on a single man being pastor. How can you counsel about marriage when you have never been married, etc.


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