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tv1a 07-04-2007 05:35 PM

Is Hogwash a form of legalism
 
I attempting a dialog with a poster on another thread. His disdain for my views was so evident he used the word HOGWASH more than once. It is evident hogwash is a sanitize substitue word for the waste from male cattle. A legalist says it is okay to say hogwash, but not the other word? What happened to the principle that states every idle word would be accounted for?

Why is it okay for one word and not the other. Hogwash is hardly used in describing the sanitary condition of a future pork chop. Hogwash is almost exclucsivly used as a sanitized swear word.

Is there an unwritten rule legalism that it is okay to clean up a word or phrase and have it mean the same thing as its originial counterpart?

Any pig farmers out there want to squeal in on this one?

Sherri 07-04-2007 05:59 PM

Well, that's a new one on me. I've never heard this definition of hogwash!!!

ManOfWord 07-04-2007 06:02 PM

I have never heard "hogwash" given that definition before. I have always, and maybe errantly, thought that hogwash was was the muddy pit that hogs like to wallow in or the water that hoses down their hog runs etc. I have never thought that hogwash meant anything improper.

I think your definition is a bunch of hogwash! :D

Praxeas 07-04-2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 175537)
I attempting a dialog with a poster on another thread. His disdain for my views was so evident he used the word HOGWASH more than once. It is evident hogwash is a sanitize substitue word for the waste from male cattle. A legalist says it is okay to say hogwash, but not the other word? What happened to the principle that states every idle word would be accounted for?

Why is it okay for one word and not the other. Hogwash is hardly used in describing the sanitary condition of a future pork chop. Hogwash is almost exclucsivly used as a sanitized swear word.

Is there an unwritten rule legalism that it is okay to clean up a word or phrase and have it mean the same thing as its originial counterpart?

Any pig farmers out there want to squeal in on this one?

We'd all have to assume the person that said Hogwash was a legalist. In fact to me a real legalist would probably not use the word hogwash either....then again even a non-legalist might choose not to use euphemisms

Sam 07-04-2007 06:15 PM

Well, shoot!!!!
Horseshoes!!!!
You better watch your mouth or Gosh will darn you to heck.
Cheese and Crackers!!!!!

Barb 07-04-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 175539)
Well, that's a new one on me. I've never heard this definition of hogwash!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 175540)
I have never heard "hogwash" given that definition before. I have always, and maybe errantly, thought that hogwash was was the muddy pit that hogs like to wallow in or the water that hoses down their hog runs etc. I have never thought that hogwash meant anything improper.

I think your definition is a bunch of hogwash! :D

Sorry, folks...this is not tv on the rampage, and here's my story...

I haven't done it in a while, but I was one who wrote to the opinion column in our local newspaper on a regular basis. One particular letter, I used the word "hogwash."

After it was printed, I was informed by a Saint I trusted to know what they were talking about, that the use of that word was another way of saying something else.

In thinking about it, it made sense and I have refrained from using.

Now, just because my friend said this is the way it is and I have stopped saying it, doesn't mean we are correct. We could be as off base as can be, but what tv posted here is not news to me.

tv1a 07-04-2007 06:48 PM

This thread is intended to be taken as serious as a WP diatribe. The thread is a creative way of showing how easy it is to twist and manipulate words. Sort of like what the unofficial whipping post of aff wp was doing in the tft thread. The example was too good to pass up. Forgive me for trying to keep my legalistic powers sharp. Maybe someday they will come in handy and be used to better mankind.

Sister Alvear 07-04-2007 07:05 PM

To bad we lose precious moments of time calling people names...

TalkLady 07-04-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 175567)
To bad we lose precious moments of time calling people names...

AMEN, Sis. Alvear.........Name calling would seem to fit the category of "idle words" of which we must give an account.

Rico 07-04-2007 10:35 PM

http://www.madterroristpress.com/galscott/hogwash.jpg

Sister Alvear 07-04-2007 10:44 PM

I cannot understand why "sold out to God" people seen to spend so much time belittling christians...Are we confused who our enemy really is?

jwharv 07-04-2007 11:00 PM

Hogwash: (Word Web)
1.Unacceptable behavior (especially ludicrously false statements)

hogwash. (Websters)
Main Entry: hog·wash
Pronunciation: -"wosh, -"wäsh
Function: noun
1 : SWILL 2a, : SLOP
2 : NONSENSE, BALDERDASH



Right from the dictionary................

mizpeh 07-04-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 175537)
I attempting a dialog with a poster on another thread. His disdain for my views was so evident he used the word HOGWASH more than once. It is evident hogwash is a sanitize substitue word for the waste from male cattle. A legalist says it is okay to say hogwash, but not the other word? What happened to the principle that states every idle word would be accounted for?

Why is it okay for one word and not the other. Hogwash is hardly used in describing the sanitary condition of a future pork chop. Hogwash is almost exclucsivly used as a sanitized swear word.

Is there an unwritten rule legalism that it is okay to clean up a word or phrase and have it mean the same thing as its originial counterpart?

Any pig farmers out there want to squeal in on this one?

hog·wash (hôg'wôsh', -wŏsh, hŏg'-)
n.
Worthless, false, or ridiculous speech or writing; nonsense.
Garbage fed to hogs; swill.

There is another definition found on the link below similar to the one you've given that I didn't want to copy. Since hogwash has multiple meanings, you may want to ask the other poster which meaning he is using.

http://www.answers.com/topic/hogwash

Barb 07-05-2007 01:04 AM

Hey didn't say it was set in stone...just told y'all what I'd heard...

Barb 07-05-2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 175651)
I cannot understand why "sold out to God" people seen to spend so much time belittling christians...Are we confused who our enemy really is?

God bless your heart...!!

tv1a 07-05-2007 05:12 AM

j-harv you may want to read the last paragraph of this post and add it to your dictionary.

The way the word was used by the poster can be taken two ways.

1. As a substitue for bovine fertilizer.
2. A suggestion that what he just posted was ridiculous.

Maybe that would be a great poll question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 175674)
hog·wash (hôg'wôsh', -wŏsh, hŏg'-)
n.
Worthless, false, or ridiculous speech or writing; nonsense.
Garbage fed to hogs; swill.

There is another definition found on the link below similar to the one you've given that I didn't want to copy. Since hogwash has multiple meanings, you may want to ask the other poster which meaning he is using.

http://www.answers.com/topic/hogwash


Old Paths 07-05-2007 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwharv (Post 175658)
Hogwash: (Word Web)
1.Unacceptable behavior (especially ludicrously false statements)

hogwash. (Websters)
Main Entry: hog·wash
Pronunciation: -"wosh, -"wäsh
Function: noun
1 : SWILL 2a, : SLOP
2 : NONSENSE, BALDERDASH



Right from the dictionary................



Thanks.

That's only way that I'ver heard the word used.

DividedThigh 07-05-2007 08:24 AM

actually hogwash, is not from cattle it is from hogs, take it from an old time hogfarmer, lol, dt

Sister Alvear 07-05-2007 09:55 AM

That is no word to use about fellow christians. We may see things different if I were refering to someone that believe different I would just say it...The only reason I can think of someone even using that word would be if they were refering to Jim Jones or someone of that order maybe????? but not the followers who were brainwashed and so many sincere...In 40 years of traveling I only know one church I would never return to...because they are a dangerous cult. I know churches I do not care to return to but if the Lord spoke to me I certainly would and smile.
Sometimes we learn our greatest lessons from those that are different and not in the same mold we can from...Be open hearted and my friend you must be debating or talking to a mean spirited person...(just my take on this)

Barb 07-05-2007 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 175803)
That is no word to use about fellow christians. We may see things different if I were refering to someone that believe different I would just say it...The only reason I can think of someone even using that word would be if they were refering to Jim Jones or someone of that order maybe????? but not the followers who were brainwashed and so many sincere...In 40 years of traveling I only know one church I would never return to...because they are a dangerous cult. I know churches I do not care to return to but if the Lord spoke to me I certainly would and smile.
Sometimes we learn our greatest lessons from those that are different and not in the same mold we can from...Be open hearted and my friend you must be debating or talking to a mean spirited person...(just my take on this)

You always seem to bring peace and light where ever you go on this board...I want to be like you when I grow up!! :kittyhug


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