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Sherri 07-16-2007 12:17 PM

Our Baptism Mode!!
 
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

NLYP 07-16-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186838)
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

Like I said on the other thread...I am so sorry I misquoted you.
I guess I still dont see the difference with the exception of sing the titles and then the name.
Oh well.....sorry...It was not on purpose I assure you.

Sherri 07-16-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 186861)
Like I said on the other thread...I am so sorry I misquoted you.
I guess I still dont see the difference with the exception of sing the titles and then the name.
Oh well.....sorry...It was not on purpose I assure you.

Oh, I know, Dan. And it will still get criticized on here, but that's ok. It's what we feel like is the most biblical way to do it.

I just wanted Steadfast and Boom and some of the others to know that we don't actually put them under in the titles, but in the name of Jesus.

DividedThigh 07-16-2007 12:38 PM

sherri you and the bishop do it right, dont let anybody tell you any different, call the name of jesus over them and zap washed away those sins go, lol, dt, love you guys, :winkgrin

Sherri 07-16-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 186872)
sherri you and the bishop do it right, dont let anybody tell you any different, call the name of jesus over them and zap washed away those sins go, lol, dt, love you guys, :winkgrin

Thanks, DT. (I still think you have a strange screen name though!):winkgrin

DividedThigh 07-16-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186876)
Thanks, DT. (I still think you have a strange screen name though!):winkgrin

i know, i love it, lol, i cant help it, freaks people out, they should see my shorts, not one pair comes above my knee, i am such a prude, lol,dt

deseret 07-16-2007 01:42 PM

That name is gross.

IAintMovin 07-16-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deseret (Post 186959)
That name is gross.

IKNOWYOUAINTTALKINGABOUTTHENAME JESUS................RIGHT??????

deseret 07-16-2007 01:57 PM

Divided Thigh. That is a gross name.

Sherri 07-16-2007 06:51 PM

Bump for Boom/Steadfast!

freeatlast 07-16-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186838)
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

Sherri: anybody who wants to nit pick over the what you say in your batismal services..has just got to much idle time on their hands. They should go out into all the world...and find a life.

Good greif...talk about staining a gnat!

Jack Shephard 07-16-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186838)
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."
We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

This is very, very good. It is very accurate. This is way I would baptize someone were I doing so. That is a great way to put it!

Jack Shephard 07-16-2007 08:00 PM

I knew a guy once in the Assembly of God that I accually went to the Apostolic School with that when he and his pastors/leaders always said, "Upon your confession of faith in the Savior I baptize you in the name of the F,S,and HG which is the name of Jesus Chricst for the remission...." I think that this is sufficient too, but Sherri's way is perfectly done.

rgcraig 07-16-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 187420)
I knew a guy once in the Assembly of God that I accually went to the Apostolic School with that when he and his pastors/leaders always said, "Upon your confession of faith in the Savior I baptize you in the name of the F,S,and HG which is the name of Jesus Chricst for the remission...." I think that this is sufficient too, but Sherri's way is perfectly done.

I can just see it now......Sherri traveling with her tent holding revivals and baptizing "Sherri's Way":slaphappy

Steve Epley 07-16-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186838)
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

Just a compromize hoping to muddy the waters.

Sam 07-16-2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 186838)
Just so there won't be any confusion, and because NLYP did not quite quote it right (not on purpose, he just forgot what it says); here is the exact way that we baptize:

"John Doe, upon your profession of faith, and according to Matthew 28:19, which says, 'Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, which was fulfilled in Acts chapter two, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We never say, "I baptize you in the name of the F, S, and HG".
Just wanted to clear that up, since it's such a volatile issue on here. We always baptize in Jesus' name.

Of course you'll get criticized for that.
We OP's just love to criticize one another.

Some of us say that the Father's name is Lord, the Son's name is Jesus, and the Holy Ghost's name is Christ so the real and only name of God is "Lord Jesus Christ" --no more and no less. Others say if you say the 3 words, "Lord Jesus Christ" you might just as well use the FS&HG words. Some say the name of God is "Jesus Christ" --no more and no less, so don't you dare add that word "Lord" to that or don't you dare leave off "Christ." Others think we have to try to find out what His Mama called Him when He was a little boy and we have to say it, spell it, and pronounce it just like she did or it's not valid for baptism.

There are OP's that demand rebaptism if the word "Lord" was used and some who demand rebaptism if the word "Lord" was not used.

Old Paths 07-16-2007 09:43 PM

Can anyone spell



















COMPROMISE?

Sherri 07-16-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187478)
Just a compromize hoping to muddy the waters.

I'll never understand this mindset! How can using the scriptures the Bible uses about baptism be a compromise? What's wrong with quoting what Jesus said Himself about baptism and then explaining how it was fulfilled by the apostles?

Scott Hutchinson 07-16-2007 09:52 PM

Would I be compromising if I baptized somebody and said I baptize you in The Name Of Jesus The Christ upon your repentance ?

Steve Epley 07-16-2007 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187509)
I'll never understand this mindset! How can using the scriptures the Bible uses about baptism be a compromise? What's wrong with quoting what Jesus said Himself about baptism and then explaining how it was fulfilled by the apostles?

Me thinks explaining what is being done is not the intent those I have known doing this(I don't know y'all) were muddying the waters trying somehow to have it both ways. Thus a compromise.

Sam 07-16-2007 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187509)
I'll never understand this mindset! How can using the scriptures the Bible uses about baptism be a compromise? What's wrong with quoting what Jesus said Himself about baptism and then explaining how it was fulfilled by the apostles?

Don't try to understand.
Some folks are just paranoid of hearing any mention of the FS&HG words.
Why would you even want to quote the words of Jesus?
Besides, some folks want to take those words out of the Bible.
We don't believe them so they must be wrong and must not belong there.

SDG 07-16-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187515)
Me thinks explaining what is being done is not the intent those I have known doing this(I don't know y'all) were muddying the waters trying somehow to have it both ways. Thus a compromise.

Now quoting scripture is considered mud ... who would think????

Old Paths 07-16-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187515)
Me thinks explaining what is being done is not the intent those I have known doing this(I don't know y'all) were muddying the waters trying somehow to have it both ways. Thus a compromise.



Sorta like the preacher that screams about holiness, but NEVER names sin.

Wants to appease everyone and appear as conservative.

Pressing-On 07-16-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 187520)
Sorta like the preacher that screams about holiness, but NEVER names sin.

Wants to appease everyone and appear as conservative.

:killinme:killinme:killinme

stmatthew 07-16-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187509)
I'll never understand this mindset! How can using the scriptures the Bible uses about baptism be a compromise? What's wrong with quoting what Jesus said Himself about baptism and then explaining how it was fulfilled by the apostles?


Why add F,S, & HG into it?? If the fulfillment is in Acts 2:38, why not go directly to the fulfillment. IMHO, it is only done to appease those that will not accept Jesus Name baptism in and of itself.

stmatthew 07-16-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 187520)
Sorta like the preacher that screams about holiness, but NEVER names sin.

Wants to appease everyone and appear as conservative.

Elder,

I really didn't read your post prior to my posting the above!! :D

Steve Epley 07-16-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 187519)
Now quoting scripture is considered mud ... who would think????

Quoting scripture is not the problem but the REASON for doing this seems very transparent to me. To try to appease both groups without offending either. Why not just quote every verse in the Bible on baptism while baptizing them? I had a personal acquaintance that did this and his explanation was the same his members NEVER got rooted in Apostolic doctrine they were just as happy going to a Trinity church as a Oneness church. If you thinks it makes no difference then have at it. Some of us thinks it makes a difference.
NOWHERE in Acts or the Epistles is there a reference to the triune formula in baptism ONLY in Jesus Name.

SDG 07-16-2007 10:02 PM

Some would censor the officiator of a baptism from quoting scripture because it muddies their dogma ... oh boy.

Sherri 07-16-2007 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187515)
Me thinks explaining what is being done is not the intent those I have known doing this(I don't know y'all) were muddying the waters trying somehow to have it both ways. Thus a compromise.

Well, you're wrong about us, Elder. This is the way Eddie has always baptized, even all those years we were in UPC, because he feels like it is the most biblical way to do it. No one in UPC ever questioned it. We never did it to try to please anyone; no one even ever asked to be baptized any other way than in Jesus' name.

Sherri 07-16-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 187524)
Why add F,S, & HG into it?? If the fulfillment is in Acts 2:38, why not go directly to the fulfillment. IMHO, it is only done to appease those that will not accept Jesus Name baptism in and of itself.

We didn't add this in, Jesus did.:winkgrin

Steve Epley 07-16-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187533)
Well, you're wrong about us, Elder. This is the way Eddie has always baptized, even all those years we were in UPC, because he feels like it is the most biblical way to do it. No one in UPC ever questioned it. We never did it to try to please anyone; no one even ever asked to be baptized any other way than in Jesus' name.

But you said when he was in the UPC he did not believe baptism was essential even in those days didn't you?

SDG 07-16-2007 10:05 PM

Um ... who's words is Eddie quoting when he is baptizing??? ... but some would like to silence Him ... because of a 90 year old feud. ...

Sherri 07-16-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187537)
But you said when he was in the UPC he did not believe baptism was essential even in those days didn't you?

I believe every believer should be baptized out of obedience to the Word. But I do not believe that it saves them. A person is saved when they leave the kingdom of darkness and enter into the Kingdom of God, at repentance. That's what Eddie has taught for almost 30 years, in and out of UPC.

SDG 07-16-2007 10:08 PM

Essential to obedience.

Steve Epley 07-16-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187541)
I believe every believer should be baptized out of obedience to the Word. But I do not believe that it saves them. A person is saved when they leave the kingdom of darkness and enter into the Kingdom of God, at repentance. That's what Eddie has taught for almost 30 years, in and out of UPC.

That is what I thought was he from Tennessee originally?????

stmatthew 07-16-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 187536)
We didn't add this in, Jesus did.:winkgrin

IF someone has the "revelation" of what Jesus commanded in Matt 28, they would use the NAME of the F, S, & HG, and not the titles.

SDG 07-16-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 187546)
IF someone has the "revelation" of what Jesus commanded in Matt 28, they would use the NAME of the F, S, & HG, and not the titles.

So now there is a revelation not to quote scripture????:slaphappy

stmatthew 07-16-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 187544)
Essential to obedience.

Disobedience = destruction (i.e. lost as 2 boys kissing)

Sherri 07-16-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 187545)
That is what I thought was he from Tennessee originally?????

Born and raised in Africa and Tennessee. His dad was from Tennessee though. Very strict on standards, but tolerant and PCI in doctrine.

As for me...Our theology and standards changed with every pastor, which was every few years. I had to learn to search scriptures for myself.

Sherri 07-16-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 187548)
So now there is a revelation not to quote scripture????:slaphappy

Unbelievable!


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