UPCI's Randy Hollis Throws Down the Gauntlet: The Emancipation of Isaac
 

Posted on his website http://www.randyhollis.com/

Introduction to "The Emancipation of Isaac"
By Randy Hollis

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is a proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation." - Edmund Spencer

"Once upon a time" is the way many stories begin.
For the followers of Christ it has always simply been, "In the beginning." We have always had a secure point of reference, "the beginning." The question is what is the core ingredient of which the beginning was made?
The answer is the word, "In the beginning was the word."


So I think it's safe to say that the source of all things is the word, God spoke the world into existence. We live in an ocean of sound because sound was how it all started, God spoke; therefore sound is the source of all things.

If you could slow a light frequency down to the speed of a sound frequency the light frequency and sound frequency would match. Why? Because light has its source in speech or sound; God said, "let there be light."

The scriptures refer to us as the children of light. We find a mandate given to "Walk while ye have the light , lest darkness come upon you:" John 12:35 KJV

I think the meaning here is clear, light equals revelation. We searched the landscape of scripture until patterns emerged; we connected the dots until we achieved an aaah-ha! In other words, the word of God arranged into certain contextual compositions develops into light. True revelation is a homecoming to unyielding truth; we are only discovering the already said.

We have experienced celebrations of light and thank God we have found the grace to continue in them. Our celebrations of water baptism and the in-filling of the Holy Spirit are clearly parallels of the birth of water and spirit found in John's gospel.

However, most of us are bound to some degree by the chains of theological imaginations; these imaginations are developed by someone (preacher, teacher, parent) drawing a truth map in our heads. When not certain, they made reverential estimates of landscapes yet discovered and uncharted. They meant well, they tried as hard as they could to get it right. The truth is that we all live in the land of shadows, "now we see through a glass darkly."

In the search for truth it is good to remember that the sketches or maps formed in our minds are only a description of the real-estate and not the property (truth) itself. The bible tells us in John 8:32 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." Free from what? Inaccurate maps!

In the upcoming months, the organization I am in will face some difficult decisions. They will be called upon to settle some very unsettled issues. The issues, or "technologies in question," are not the problem! We must always go to the root of the problem, which in this case is found in the ethical decision making model we chose to navigate by so many years ago.

We chose a rule-based ethical decision-making-model;

Example- "If you have a television in your home you are going to hell."

Yet, Christ epitomized something else; a principle based ethical decision making model.

Example- "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes:" (Psa 101:3 KJV)
The Rule based model clearly demonizes "the technology." While the principle based model simply teaches us to navigate through it. I might also add that the principle - "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes," seems to anticipate the internet as well. "His" principles just have a way of doing that. Our rule based model did not anticipate the internet and we've witnessed pastors and their wives leaving each other over someone they met while in a chat room, or worse.

A rule based ethical decision making model will more often than not, lock you into time and era; a "rule" can make perfect sense to one generation, and become rigid, limiting, and even damaging to the next.

A principle based ethical decision making model is adaptable while navigating through time and era; it works in every generation. The eternal God we serve has never been affected by time. Therefore, the principle based model He gave us is timeless.

Trueblood said, "What is most rewarding is doing something that really matters with congenial colleagues who share with us the firm conviction it needs to be done."

We must steer our organization towards Christ's principle based ethical decision making model if we expect to survive the tsunami of technological breakthroughs which lay on the horizon.

God richly bless you as you take the time to prayerfully read the chapter below, "The Emancipation of Isaac." Keep in mind that even though I feel the insight for this chapter was given to me by God, I am fully aware that I still, like Paul, only "know in part." I'm asking you to feel free to respond by email, we need each other now more than ever.

The chapter was written in the fall 2003, it's from my upcoming book which I plan to call "The Man in the Middle."


Your friend in Christ,
Randy Hollis

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Read His Emancipation of Isaac article ... http://www.thebelieverschurch.com/ra...ancipation.htm

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It appears to be directed at exposing the ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES within the Apostolic movement.

This article is also the featured article on AWCF.ORG ...
http://www.awcf.org/guestarticle.html

It is also posted at the New Church Order website:
http://www.newchurchorder.com/content/view/53/45/

Some interesting quotes from the Emancipation of Isaac

More quotes:

Where is a person, if they have fallen backwards, fallen from grace, and Christ is of no effect in their life? Could it mean that they are lost?


There is a group of ministers in the church that call themselves "conservative," while we would call them "ultra-conservative." Will you consider for a moment that they may not be Christ-like in their views or actions? Could they be back under the law, fallen from grace and not aware that they have lost their blood covering; might they be bewitched? The word of God has become to them rule upon rule, a list of do's and don'ts. When they stand before God will they have to give answer for why they mocked the power of the blood? Will they also be stunned into a terrified silence when they learn that because they embraced "one law" they will now have to give an answer for every law?


When I read Gal 5:4 something very strange happened to me, I saw a diagram like the second one pictured below. The first diagram is the way I had always seen Pentecost, I believed that you were either blind (meaning that you did not see the light of truth) or you were given enough insight by the spirit to see the truth and you belonged on the blood covered platform. I was taught to believe that if you were blood covered then you belonged in one of these four categories, Liberal, moderate, conservative, or ultra- conservative. I had always believed that if you were blood covered then you were on a higher level spiritually than the blind.



http://www.thebelieverschurch.com/ra...graphics_2.jpg


When I read the following statement, "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you," (Gal 3:1 KJV) The diagram below came to my mind and has not changed since that time.

http://www.thebelieverschurch.com/ra...n_graphics.jpg


The Ultraconservative group fell away from the blood-stained-grace- platform and became lost again by stumbling back under the law. What terrifies me is, most ministers deceived by this spirit never feel a falling sensation or the thud when they crash into the lower bewitched platform. They do not realize that they have changed spirits!


Paul went on to declare, "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" (Gal 3:2 -3)


Paul also said, "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. "The Law" (Gal 3:25 ) "But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?" (Gal 4:9 ) And from the NIV "I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you." (Gal 4:11 )

When Paul said, "ye desire again to be in bondage" it brings the wilderness wonderings of the children of Israel to mind. They longed to go back to Egypt. This is another anticipatory model of the law-Vs-blood-"Perfect Storm." There are many warnings laced throughout scriptures, warning us of a terrible snare that would leave us at best, bound, and at the worst, lost.

I've heard Randy Hollis preach. I recommend using his teachings with extreme caution.

I wouldn't pay the man a nickel to bury a hobo.

Wow, this quote is way harsh.

While I agree with most of what he is saying, this is no way to win friends and influence people. This article must not have had a great readership since it was published in '03 and we are just now hearing of it.

Right before a wheel comes off, you generally hear the bearing squealing.

Randy is squealing.

So,

let me get this straight.

It is wrong for someone to be judgemental...

Yet he makes the case that Peter may have been lost,

You know, the same Peter whose name is on one of the foundations of the City that John saw.

This type of writing/thinking is troubling because he seems to think it is somehow God inspired, but the connections he makes, in broad strokes says others cannot be saved, because essentially they don't see things the way "he does."

Anyone that suggests that Peter is lost ... and then going to go through this diagram of goofy doctorine to say others in our movement is LOST. I would say this is the begining of more poor folks that will be led astray by another preacher who has lost his way or never had a clear view of truth to begin with.

I guess God made a mistake when He put Peter's name on one of the foundations of the Holy City.

he may have to replace it with "Randy."

Daniel, I would like to see a thread specifically devoted to the content of this post and its implications.

The result may be the biggest thread in forum history.

there is nothing to discuss. Just another guy spouting opinions....

That is what many threads here are about. And the ideas presents are not worthy of more than a read and a,

"Nah."

"Nope."

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Its not funny or sad. The word that comes to mind would not be edifying in it's usage so we will just..... whistle.
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Brother, I understand your sentiments, but I think you may be mistaken about Daniel's second post. There are some huge issues presented in it. Read between the lines. Look at the players involved.

Are you sure you are not missing something?

Why are these two organizations posting such an article on their websites?


Think people.

Exposing? What do you do with them after their "exposed?"

My question is why does Randy Hollis sound like Paramhansa Yogananda?

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Exactly.

If two organizations who are so doctrinally ambiguous are flying this flag on their masts, what does it tell you?

PP, why don't you expound on those issues, which are presented in DA's post and we will discuss them. Papabear I think Pastor Poster is right about this.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Randy Hollis is a close personal friend of mine. He and I were roomatss in ABI. We spent a considerable amount of time at the last GC talking about this very topic.

Actually, this is old news. I posted this quite some time ago on NFCF and no one took it anywhere.

He makes some very good arguments. Actually, this document has made its way up the UPC "food chain" and has been read by some of its "elite."

For clarification" The Ultra-Cons are just as lost as the Ultra-Libs, not for their several convictions, or lack thereof, but because of their "exclusive" spirit and judgemental attitudes.

I know that this came out of a personal struggle Randy had and wrestled with the Lord. The result is what he felt the Lord showed him. You'd have to sit down with the man to feel his passion and broken heart. I have.

He would probably be considered to the "right" of me. He has taken some tough "hits" in his District but has never returned the "favor." He is a lover of God...this much I know.

You need to check out his church's web site.

http://thebelieverschurch.com/

It's all about the money?

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I think what is going on is a lot bigger than a thread ....

I have some thoughts about what is going on .... there is a lot going on here ... I will hope to post a new thread in an hour.

I like some things you have presented here in your post MOW. I will go through Brother Hollis' web site and try to see what he is about.

I must say that what I read of what Daniel had posted from Brother Hollis sounded very much like philosophy.

Thank you for your post.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

MY FRIEND MOW....

As you already know, you are a way out in left-field cock-eyed liberal. Right? So my question to you is, "Are the Ultra Cons LOST???

OK... maybe not cock-eyed. Luv ya, guy! You know I am kidding here. But, my question remains?

Actually, I have many issues with that article, both pro and con.

Bro. Ben...

You are TOAST, you...you Ultra Con. :D

I don't want to steal Daniel's thunder here. He has brought an alarming issue to our attention.

Why are these organizations posting such an article on their websites? Are they using the current state of discontent within the UPC to their favor? Isn't this a very aggressive move on their part? I have a relative who has received calls from one of these organizations asking him to change his allegiance.

For years we have been warned the ultraconservatives would leave if the resolution passed. Now it seems there are options for those who will want to leave if the resolution dosn't pass.

Is this an organized effort to raid the UPC of libs and mods?

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Ultra-Cons are as lost as "two boys kissing"






















Just as much as Ultra-Libs IF their attitudes are Pharisaical. Libs can be just as Pharisaical as Cons. It is not where a person stands that is as important as HOW they stand. I think Jesus points that out well when He cleanses the temple. He had far more mercy on the sinner than he did the "religious."

I am NOT casting doctrine to the wind, here. I am only pointing out the importance of a right relationship with the Creator and the creation.

Maybe we'll keep it here? And ask the admin to change the title?

If admin could ... please change the thread title to

Are the NCO and AWCF "raiding" the UPCI or providing a "safety net"?

concerning my initial read of the thread starting article:

I experienced an opportunity in my spirit to find agreement with giving attention to a pretty dramatic dicotomy in the phrases:

Rule Based
Principle Based

These are foundational in establishing the approach for delivery of a message, a counsel, an instruction in righteousness, or a correction among (or between) fitly joined members of God's body.

I submit that a "rule based" approach is the primary delivery system of viewholders that suppose there are RULERS in the body of Christ. By illustration: "God tells RULERS what is needed, and rulers tell hears what you should do (the rules)." The role of the messenger in this approach is mediator or go-between. There is an operation of authority applied involving the speaker and the hearer.

In my opinion, the Principle-based delivery system makes no such claim of being an intermediary or having any authority in any role 'with respect to' the hearer. The hearer is fully responsible for applying or discarding the principle. Also, the hearer must soberly consider the legitimacy of the messanger/gifting servant that is involved in this delivery experience.

Principle-based interactions between the mechanisms that God has provided (to bless/edify) AND the members of his body, leave fully intact the scriptural admonition to:
1.Work out our own salvation with fear and trembling
2.Study to show ourselves approved
3.Calling no man rabbi, for ye have ONE master
4.Having no Lords as the gentiles do
5.Considering those who are elders and leaders who have been provided as guides who must give account for their service in prospering our souls.

I agree.

Question: Who is Randy Hollis? Why do we care what he writes?

Conservatives are lost? Why would a preacher an Apostolic Jesus name preacher take a broad brush and say conservatives are lost?

It's a UPC church in Louisville, KY.



http://thebelieverschurch.com/

Oh! Thanks MOW. I have never heard tell of this guy that I can remember.

Now I understand better why all the excitement. LOL! :thumbsup

Does Brother Hollis hold license?

Yes, he does and has since the 80's. He graduated with me in '82.

Daniel how old are you?

Please share them.

You know, what I find remarkable is the players involved in NCO and AWCF and their rubber stamp of this article on their site.

I visited the NCO website this week and was surprised to see a testimony by a man named Ricky Saulters who recently left the UPC (apparently) to join NCO. It was on the front page of the site. It seems they were touting their conquest.

34 years old, Elder.

You went to ABI? Do you know Brother Bruce Thompson?