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Dedicated Mind 07-30-2007 03:48 PM
when does "salvation" occur?
 
when does "salvation" occur?
  1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
  2. at water baptism in jesus name
  3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
  4. enduring to the end

RandyWayne 07-30-2007 03:52 PM
Mmmmmmm...... I believe at the moment that you ask God for forgiveness and salvation. If, after such a prayer, you were to drop over dead or have something happen to kill you, you would be in good hands. :)

Brother Strange 07-30-2007 04:19 PM
Listen for the click behind you.

crakjak 07-30-2007 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 202327)
when does "salvation" occur?
  1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
  2. at water baptism in jesus name
  3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
  4. enduring to the end
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:10)

SOUNDS LIKE NUMBER ONE IS THE WINNER!!!!!

Chewy 07-30-2007 06:01 PM
The chicken...
no! The egg...

No...the chicken, the egg, the chicken! ARRRGH!!!!


:heeheehee

Rico 07-30-2007 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 202327)
when does "salvation" occur?
  1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
  2. at water baptism in jesus name
  3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
  4. enduring to the end
Yes.

Chewy 07-30-2007 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 202327)
when does "salvation" occur?
  1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
  2. at water baptism in jesus name
  3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
  4. enduring to the end
I am not sure about this enduring to the end stuff. If that is truly the case no one could ever really testify that, "I am saved" I am only trying, for that matter the same could be said about being sanctified and holy too.

We can never BE we can only keep trying

Rico 07-30-2007 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 202491)
I am not sure about this enduring to the end stuff. If that is truly the case no one could ever really testify that, "I am saved" I am only trying, for that matter the same could be said about being sanctified and holy too.

We can never BE we can only keep trying
Mt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Kinda blows that once saved always saved doctrine right out of the water, huh?

Chewy 07-30-2007 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico (Post 202496)
Mt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Kinda blows that once saved always saved doctrine right out of the water, huh?
I wasn't talking about once saved, always saved. I am talking about David saying "Restore unto me the joy of my salvation." He didn't say, "Restore unto me the joy of my effort toward salvation."

Felicity 07-30-2007 06:42 PM
It never occurs from the way some people think. Totally contrary to scripture. What good is salvation if we don't know that we're saved until we're on the other side of the pearly gates?

Chewy 07-30-2007 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 202529)
It never occurs from the way some people think. Totally contrary to scripture. What good is salvation if we don't know that we're saved until we're on the other side of the pearly gates?
I can't imagine living a victorious Christian life with that dark cloud hanging over my head, yet many many do. I had a lady tell me that she hoped that if she were ever in a life and death situation she would have a time or a chance to repent before she died to make sure she made it.

Wow

Rico 07-30-2007 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 202525)
I wasn't talking about once saved, always saved. I am talking about David saying "Restore unto me the joy of my salvation." He didn't say, "Restore unto me the joy of my effort toward salvation."
Sorry, Bro. I wasn't trying to say you believe in the once saved always saved lie. It's just what I thought of when the "endureth" scripture came to mind. Sorry 'bout the confusion. I forget people can't read my mind and don't always know why I am responding to their posts. :)

Praxeas 07-30-2007 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 202327)
when does "salvation" occur?
  1. at repentance/sinner's prayer of faith
  2. at water baptism in jesus name
  3. at spirit baptism, speaking w/tongues
  4. enduring to the end
I voted all 4, thanks for making the poll so we can do that

Praxeas 07-30-2007 07:07 PM
BTW I see Pelathais has a brilliant mind too


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