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Does Jesus know ALL things?
How was Peter able to say what he said to Jesus in the verse below that Jesus knew all things, when Jesus confessed to not knowing the day of his coming and of the end of the world?
Joh 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. Matt 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. |
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Matt 28:18 happened between these two witnesses. |
Tbpew,
I appreciate for the thought, but in the book of Revelation, Jesus had to be given the revelation from God....meaning this was something Jesus didn't know but was revealed unto Him as well. Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Matthew 28:28 All power is not the same as all knowledge. |
Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.
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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, NASV The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, NKJV |
Your thread title says "DOES" He know. The answer is YES!
Your input refers to "DID" He know. :) |
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In Jn 16:30 the disciples said of Jesus that he knew all things. This was said of Jesus because he knew their hearts. It is said that he commited himself to know man because he knew the hearts of all men. This is true in John 21 also. He knew the hearts and minds of the people. This is not to say that before he was glorified that he knew the day and the hour. Clearly, he did not, as he testified of that inability. However, after his glorification, he came into his omnscient state of God knowledge, knowing all things, having received all power both in heaven and in earth. Omniscience is a component of all power. |
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That is EXACTLY right. A VERY GOOD thought indeed. |
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What ever makes you think that I think Jesus lost His humanity? :confused: |
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Prax, God is not a person. The self of God is much different that the self of a human being. |
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The thread title uses the present tense "DOES"? Jesus in his present position, now, at the right hand of power and authority, does indeed, NOW, know all things. I agree with you fully that, in His humanity, Jesus did not know all things. Jesus, although He was God, could not operate here legally, as God. He had to have a body to exercise authority in the Earth. He had to lay aside His divinity, and operate as a man, born of a woman, (Lk 1:35) anointed of the Holy Ghost, (Matt 3:16) and He stood in the office of a prophet. (Lk 4:24) He also operated in all the gifts of the Spirit. That's how, at times, He knew things that others did not know. God could not save mankind, as God, because He had given "dominion over all the Earth", to mankind. Therefore God the Father, had to make Himself a body, and "provide Himself a Lamb for a burnt offering:" (Gen 22:8). And"...therefore mine own arm brought salvation..."(Isa 63:5) Jesus always called Himself "the son of man". The devils tried to call him the "Son of God", and He told them to shut up! He never did anything, during His earth life here, using His "Son of God" authority. He did all those signs wonders and miracles, as the "Son of man". (John 5:27) In other words, He ministered on earth, exactly like we should today, After all, we are His body here on Earth. |
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I once asked if God, having all knowledge or knowing all things, could choose NOT TO KNOW some things and I was ridiculed and 'sniff sniff snuffle" abused by some of you folks. i just don't know what to believe. :) |
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So, I naturally assumed that you were saying that he lost his humanity since he presently knows all things. Wrong assumption? |
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Bro Phil, I'm sure we are in pretty close agreement, Rom 1:20 and Closs 2:9 were written after Jesus ascended. |
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Second, I never said the self of God is the same as the self of a human being. |
We can learn from the wedding traditions of the Hebrews.
Are we not the bride of Christ? ANCIENT JEWISH WEDDING PRACTICE: PREPARING A PLACE During the betrothal period, the bridegroom would prepare a wedding chamber for the honeymoon. This chamber was typically built in the bridegroom's father's house. The wedding chamber had to be a beautiful place to bring the bride. The bride and groom were to spend seven days there. The wedding chamber had to be built to the groom's father's specifications. The young man could go for his bride only when his father approved. If the bridegroom was asked when the wedding was to be, he might well say "it is not for me to know, only my father knows". JESUS' FULFILLMENT: PREPARING A PLACE Just as a bridegroom would have told his bride that he would go to prepare a place for her, so Jesus told His disciples: "...In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. -- John 13:1-3. In ancient Israel the bridegroom could get his bride only after his father approved. Similarly, Jesus said: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert ! You do not know when that time will come -- |
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