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tamor 08-10-2007 03:32 PM

Would You Attend a Church Whose Pastor Did Not Pay Tithes?
 
Would you attend a church whose pastor did not pay tithes? The church believes in tithing and requires it from members in any type of ministry. The pastor teaches tithing but gets busted for not paying his tithes to the ministry to which they belong. He does not get removed from the pastoral position of said church. Would you attend there? Would you pay your tithes if he didn't?


I thought I would give Coop a break for a minute......:killinme

ChTatum 08-10-2007 03:37 PM

I don't belong to an organization, so my tithe, from all vocations, goes into the local storehouse.

tamor 08-10-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212267)
I don't belong to an organization, so my tithe, from all vocations, goes back into the local storehouse.

What if he didn't tithe at all? Would you sit under that man of God as your spiritual authority?

ChTatum 08-10-2007 03:39 PM

No, especially given the hypocritical stance you outlined.

On another note, I do know of one pastor that will ask to look at pay stubs.....

Hoovie 08-10-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212270)
No, especially given the hypocritical stance you outlined.

On another note, I do know of one pastor that will ask to look at pay stubs.....

I can't believe how gullible people are...:killinme:killinme

tamor 08-10-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212270)
No, especially given the hypocritical stance you outlined.

On another note, I do know of one pastor that will ask to look at pay stubs.....


That's pushing the envelope a little, isn't it?

Brother Strange 08-10-2007 03:43 PM

I would not attend such a church.

I prefer blessings upon the man rather than a curse upon him. He cannot bless the church as he should when there is curse upon him.

To properly pay tithes, it should not go to an organization. Tithing is strictly for the priesthood (the ministry) ONLY and not for an organization, regardless how religious it may be. To fund salaries of an office holder other than the five fold ministry is unbiblical. When a minister adulterates his office with a non-scriptural religious office, he is disqualified from the tithe.

Hegavmelif 08-10-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212267)
I don't belong to an organization, so my tithe, from all vocations, goes into the local storehouse.

And that is how it is supposed to be. All tithes are to go into the storehouse, not the preachers back pocket to finance golfing and fishing trips and conferences every every month (for which we usually take up an additional offering), 50 and 60 thousand dollar vehicles, motorhomes, fishing camps, deer hunting land leases, and lavish homes.

All tithes are to go into the storehouse and all the people are to benefit from the gifts we give to God. He blesses us with what we give Him. And IF what we give to God is managed correctly, those gifts WILL bless the whole, NOT just a particular pastor and his family. This in itself is revalation. You want

I am not bashing, I love the man of God and see him as a VERY important part of my salvation. I merely speak from conviction.

Brother Strange 08-10-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212270)
No, especially given the hypocritical stance you outlined.

On another note, I do know of one pastor that will ask to look at pay stubs.....

Surely not???

Surely there is no one so stupid and intimidated as to actually show the bozo their stubs???[

ChTatum 08-10-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 212275)
That's pushing the envelope a little, isn't it?

No, not at all.

It's pushing it way tooooooo far!

tamor 08-10-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 212283)
Surely not???

Surely there is no one so stupid and intimidated as to actually show the bozo their stubs???[

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch Tatum
No, not at all.

It's pushing it way tooooooo far!

:toofunny :toofunny

tamor 08-10-2007 04:11 PM

Okay. I did a little verbage adjustment. Instead of saying "the organization to which they belong" I put "to the ministry to which they belong", speaking of the ministry that the tithes belong to....i.e., the storehouse, etc.

ChTatum 08-10-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 212283)
Surely not???

Surely there is no one so stupid and intimidated as to actually show the bozo their stubs???[

Oh brother, yes there are. It falls outside my level of comprehension, but it does happen.

Sherri 08-10-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 212260)
Would you attend a church whose pastor did not pay tithes? The church believes in tithing and requires it from members in any type of ministry. The pastor teaches tithing but gets busted for not paying his tithes to the ministry to which they belong. He does not get removed from the pastoral position of said church. Would you attend there? Would you pay your tithes if he didn't?


I thought I would give Coop a break for a minute......:killinme

NO!!!! to Question One. (But I think you know that).
YES to Question Two. While I was still in that church, I would definitely pay tithe no matter who did or didn't. I know the end results.

Praxeas 08-10-2007 09:00 PM

There is a church in my area, independent and not Oneness, where they really do inquire about your income when you first start attending. They insist on knowing how much you make

Praxeas 08-10-2007 09:01 PM

And I have also heard of pastors that require you pay a tithe of the food stamps you get and he takes them!

Margies3 08-10-2007 09:17 PM

in the Methodist church they ask you to fill out a "pledge" every year. You pledge that you will give the church whatever amount you choose every week for the next year. They preach that that pledge should be based on what your tithe would be. But I never could understand how that could work. What if a person lost their job? Or even better - what if a person got a big promotion with a big raise? Should they still give at the lower rate???

My parents were Methodist when I was a baby. They were very young when they got married. So they made a pledge to the church. And then about 6 months later they moved to a town about 30 miles away, so quit going to that church. After a little while they started getting BILLS from that church, demanding the pledge money they had promised to give and threatening them if they didn't send it in!!! That turned my dad off to any church for many, many years.

Trouvere 08-10-2007 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 212267)
I don't belong to an organization, so my tithe, from all vocations, goes into the local storehouse.

Hey but you are paying them.That is the point.Bravo for you.

tamor 08-11-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 212506)
in the Methodist church they ask you to fill out a "pledge" every year. You pledge that you will give the church whatever amount you choose every week for the next year. They preach that that pledge should be based on what your tithe would be. But I never could understand how that could work. What if a person lost their job? Or even better - what if a person got a big promotion with a big raise? Should they still give at the lower rate???

My parents were Methodist when I was a baby. They were very young when they got married. So they made a pledge to the church. And then about 6 months later they moved to a town about 30 miles away, so quit going to that church. After a little while they started getting BILLS from that church, demanding the pledge money they had promised to give and threatening them if they didn't send it in!!! That turned my dad off to any church for many, many years.


That would be a turn off to anyone Margie. I can only imagine how they felt when they opened that piece of mail....

COOPER 08-11-2007 11:36 AM

Man!.................sounds like The giant and his geese that lay golden eggs.

tamor 08-11-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 212489)
And I have also heard of pastors that require you pay a tithe of the food stamps you get and he takes them!

Does he use them??? Is he that hungry or just that GREEDY?? :donuts

tamor 08-11-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 212866)
Man!.................sounds like The giant and his geese that lay golden eggs.

Yep. So what'cha think Coop? Would you attend this said church?

COOPER 08-11-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 212920)
Yep. So what'cha think Coop? Would you attend this said church?

Are ya kidd'n. ..........no way. :killinme

tamor 08-11-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 212940)
Are ya kidd'n. ..........no way. :killinme

No. I wasn't kidd'n in the least. You post all the threads for us. I wanted to post one for you. ;)
I just wondered what the concensus would be.....

Steve Epley 08-11-2007 03:15 PM

NOPE he is a God-robber!

COOPER 08-11-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 212953)
No. I wasn't kidd'n in the least. You post all the threads for us. I wanted to post one for you. ;)
I just wondered what the concensus would be.....

Why for me?:nah

What trap are setting for me?...:hypercoffee

Now I do not trust you.:killinme

COOPER 08-11-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 212956)
NOPE he is a God-robber!

:sshhhDo you have to tithe to be saved?

Steve Epley 08-11-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 212968)
:sshhhDo you have to tithe to be saved?

YES! If applicable.

tamor 08-11-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 212966)
Why for me?:nah

What trap are setting for me?...:hypercoffee

Now I do not trust you.:killinme

No trap at all. I promise I'm trustworthy....;)

As I said, a question for you. Wanted to give you a break from always asking this type. Now you have to answer. I promise - it won't hurt at all. When the men in the little white jackets come, they are your friends...........:killinme

COOPER 08-11-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 212974)
No trap at all. I promise I'm trustworthy....;)

As I said, a question for you. Wanted to give you a break from always asking this type. Now you have to answer. I promise - it won't hurt at all. When the men in the little white jackets come, they are your friends...........:killinme

I am already typing with a pencil in my mouth. Hard to function in this straight jacket.:hypercoffee

Oh , PS. Do Pastors tithe, I mean..... the ones the teach it.

tamor 08-11-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 212982)
I am already typing with a pencil in my mouth. Hard to function in this straight jacket.:hypercoffee

Oh , PS. Do Pastors tithe, I mean..... the ones the teach it.

They should. So that being said, would you attend a church whose pastor preached it but did not pay tithes?

tamor 08-11-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 212480)
NO!!!! to Question One. (But I think you know that).
YES to Question Two. While I was still in that church, I would definitely pay tithe no matter who did or didn't. I know the end results.

:sshhh You weren't supposed to see this thread. I posted it while you were away. Close your eyes and pretend you didn't see and I'll pretend you didn't post here. :killinme

injoy 08-11-2007 06:39 PM

This Cooper individual needs some good leadership in his life, obviously.

That should fix him up and get him shipshape!

Trouvere 08-11-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 212956)
NOPE he is a God-robber!

Elder Epley this has to be the POST of the day.:poloroid

Trouvere 08-11-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 212488)
There is a church in my area, independent and not Oneness, where they really do inquire about your income when you first start attending. They insist on knowing how much you make

There is a Baptist church in our city.Its the big downtown money church
and they vote you in or not and do ask you to disclose your income.

preachtruth1ness 08-20-2007 11:12 PM

Tithes
 
Are you saying that a Pastor was not paying his tithes to his church? that my friend is crazy. All of my Pastor friends pay tithes to there local ministry and there churches tithe 10% to mission and ministries. I know one church that paid 10%-- $100,000 to mission and ministries and they are blessed too.
Angel CIA

Scott Hutchinson 08-20-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by preachtruth1ness (Post 221073)
Are you saying that a Pastor was not paying his tithes to his church? that my friend is crazy. All of my Pastor friends pay tithes to there local ministry and there churches tithe 10% to mission and ministries. I know one church that paid 10%-- $100,000 to mission and ministries and they are blessed too.
Angel CIA

Welcome.I know where Meridian MS is.I used to pass through there on my way to Louisville.

Timmy 08-21-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 212283)
Surely not???

Surely there is no one so stupid and intimidated as to actually show the bozo their stubs???[

Stupid?

Or submissive?

Brother Strange 08-21-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 221265)
Stupid?

Or submissive?

Both.

Stupid and submissive. Submissive to the point of being outlandishly stupid.

DividedThigh 08-21-2007 09:53 AM

ok here is the deal, i would not go to that hypocrites church, second who is this person who meets the people at the door and asks for there pay stub, lol, third if they asked me i would politely excuse myself and leave. I dont think most of them would even understand my pay stub very complicated and the numbers are to big for hicks, lol, dt:hypercoffee:killinme


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