Dora the Explorer @ Youth Congress
 

Aquestioninggirl shared this following link and this raises some questions I have http://www.ninetyandnine.com/month/labels/Dora.html

Kathleen Herles attends Bethel UPC in Long Island, NY. From my understanding she has attended Bethel since she was around 8 or 9 when her mom came in contact with Bethel at a shopping mall ( http://www.bethelupc.org/history.html ) at their annual christmas outreach program, where the choir visits the local malls and sings for the public.


It seems for the first time that the UPCI has chosen to showcase her at a large event - Youth Congress.

1- Why hasn't the organization featured Kathleen Herles in the Pentecostal Herald in the last 8 years?

2- Is it a coinkydinky that she is featured one month before General Conference?


3- Is she the new poster child for the fellowship?


Kathleen below:


http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/57...FFAAF98D0D8640

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There's a thread already on this disheartening event.

Well, I have posted some questions on the 3rd page of that thread which may not be seen so I think it will be seen here...

Were the young people at Youth Congress given mixed messages or was this a calculated move by the leadership of the Youth Department weeks before the vote on the TV resolution?

This woman is not an Apostolic but a sinner.

She is baptized in Jesus name, filled with the baptism of the Holy Ghost having spoken in tongues and is a member of the church of one of the most well-respected Bishops in the entire fellowship in Pastor Doug Davis....WH, what makes this young woman a sinner? And did TG (the youth president) err in allowing this young lady to grace the stage?

This is what 90 &9 said about the segment that she was in...

"Frontrunner was simply a focus on Apostolic Youth making a difference in unusual or creative ways by following God's calling on their lives."

So does that mean that TV is a creative way that she is following Gods calling? Hummm!!!

This woman is dressed completely immodest.

God will not dwell in an unclean temple.

I don't know WH ... she looks like she's the temple of the Holy Spirit at least in these Congress pics ... are you able to discern the present state of her heart?

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J-Roc, I, like you ... can't figure out why the Pentecostal Herald never picked up this story years ago. I knew she was an OP ... for some time.

One has to question the timing of this ... it's cool and all that this young lady was able to share her faith ... but was she used as a political pawn?[/B]

Well Daniel I did see some shiny knees.

Um .... who cares Scott ... There were hundreds of young ladies dressed like her at Youth Congress w/ probably shorter skirts.

The real issue is the timing of this ... it seems to be calculated.

Low neckline, tight clothes and short skirt, not Apostolic.

Now Daniel they don't wear mini skirts at youth congress do they ?

dumb thread.

yes

You really think it was a blooper and not timely and calculated? Does the Youth want to steer things more mainstream?

They wear them at their local church ... it's irrelevant IMO.

Why is this a STORY now .... is the bigger and better question ... as dumb as Hoover may think this thread is ...

Everyone in the New York Metro District ... knew Kathleen and her mom were at Bethel ...

This is a compelling story of faith that should've have been told years ago ... but she remained in the closet until 6 weeks before GC is about to finally vote, once and for all, on the TV issue???

Black Helicopter much??

Eight years Monkey!!! She's been a UPCIer for 8 years ...

This situation only highlights the deep dichotomy in the fellowship ... here you have one side wanting to become more mainstream ... while some are just appalled that this Christian young lady was featured at NAYC.

DA, The fact is TV appearances by those in the UPC will not make organizational headlines at this time - IT'S CONTROVERSIAL. It is not a secret. There is no conspiricy here. People disagree about it strongly so there can be no official endorsement - I understand it completely. There is no need to impune the organization over it.

Yeah, them high behind huggin skirts seems to be the order of the day for the youth.

Not just appalled either...they have virtually sent her to hell calling her a sinner.

An organizational youth rally of more than 17,000 people seems like an official endorsement to me....

Who is impugning the org over this ... Clearly decisions were made by certain individuals to parade this young lady now ... she's a headline now ... Why? -- is a valid question, methinks.

... Who made that choice .... not the fellowship ... but TG and his gang of merry men.

Why now? They had to know it would create a stir in this present climate.

Personally she would be more modest in pants.

For an org that has taught modesty, yes it will be appalling to some.

This was by far the most "out there" style of NAYC that there has been...ever. The band pit, the acoustic worship set, the guitars, lack of Armani suits on preachers...everything was different, including interviews. They polished up the event, this was just another part IMO.

Monkey ... you know that when this idea about Dora was brought at the brainstorming session they had to weigh it in light of the present climate.

My sources tell me it will pass in Tampa...I am not so sure, but I gots me some good sources

But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."1 Samuel 16:7

You may not consider her an "Apostolic" but she loves Christ, so that makes her a Christian!

On that we agree, but not the point that it WAS the reason dora was explored!!!

Whole Hearted is a sinner!










Not really, just...ain't it mean???

Yet if one has a certain agenda ... like appearing more mainstream ... this decision was gold ... but was it wise or does it help further another secondary cause.

Amen

I think the more interesting point would be looking at how mainstream it was and how THAT might show on TV well..not Dora, but the whole package. We are kind of saying the same thing, except you have pin-pointed Dora, I look at the bigger picture.

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If they are going to televise a fellowship event ... it has to be NAYC.

What's the target demographic for NAYC? Could it be that she's being featured because she is 13 and no longer 8 years old? Why does everything have to have an agenda?

1 Tim 2:9

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
KJV


Paul speaks about appearance.