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Elizabeth 08-15-2007 04:15 PM

Testimony of Former Imperial Wizard of the KKK Joe Bednarsky now 'saved'
 
I have a myspace page (please dont hold that against me) :D

This is one of my new "friends" He is a former memeber, and national leader of the Klu Klux Klan.

I find his testimony very interesting, he has asked me to pray for him, so I have.

He has been asked to do some radio shows, which I find interesting since he has only been going to church since March. Here is his website:http://www.joebednarsky.com/

Anyway I thought it would be interesting to introduce his page to the board

http://www.myspace.com/joebednarsky

Trouvere 08-15-2007 04:51 PM

Interesting page keith.

Elizabeth 08-15-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 216923)
Interesting page keith.

You mean JEANIE!

it was just weird, I seldom really read their pages but for some reason I decided to read his.

I was floored to read about the Klu Klux Klan stuff.


He told me they are making threats against him and wanted me to pray for him.

Praxeas 08-15-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 216967)
You mean JEANIE!

it was just weird, I seldom really read their pages but for some reason I decided to read his.

I was floored to read about the Klu Klux Klan stuff.


He told me they are making threats against him and wanted me to pray for him.

haha...you know it's only natural to look at your avatar and notice that ugly mug of a husband you have and ignore you :killinme

Elizabeth 08-15-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 217081)
haha...you know it's only natural to look at your avatar and notice that ugly mug of a husband you have and ignore you :killinme

I am glad it made you laugh --:nah nah not really.

chosenbyone 08-15-2007 11:09 PM

I thought it was awesome to read where the Lord has brought this brother out of the darkness of hatred to the light of God's love. What a pity that some would want to distract the beauty of such a testimony by posting such an off color remark by insulting your husband, whether it was meant in jest or not!

Sherri 08-15-2007 11:11 PM

The KKK is alive and well here in Tennessee!!

Elizabeth 08-15-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 217286)
I thought it was awesome to read where the Lord has brought this brother out of the darkness of hatred to the light of God's love. What a pity that some would want to distract the beauty of such a testimony by posting such an off color remark by insulting your husband, whether it was meant in jest or not!

I dont know if you ever heard of myspace before, I know it gets a bad press, but the one thing is you get to do is correspond with people. So I have been able to minister to him a bit.
I am just floored by what he used to be and do-truly amazing.

As far a s the remark, some people just have an unique sense of humor.

Elizabeth 08-15-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 217287)
The KKK is alive and well here in Tennessee!!

Well some are coming to Jesus!

I know, I find them really scarey though. I dont know if any are here in Ca.

chosenbyone 08-15-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 217289)
I dont know if you ever heard of myspace before, I know it gets a bad press, but the one thing is you get to correspond with people. So I have been able to minister to him a bit.
I am just floored by what he used to be and do-truly amazing.

As far a s the remark, some people just have an unique sense of humor.

I have visited myspace a few times to check out some friends pages there, but I have never gotten that involved. This particular man that you referred to on this thread impressed me with his testimony. I remembered as a child growing up in very segregated town in East Texas the influences of this particular hate group - the KKK. What a wonderful example of grace this man's testimony has become to those still in the grips of hate that this group has promoted.

Perhaps, I just didn't get the "unique" sense of humor displayed by this brother, because it seemed to take away or distract from the message of deliverance that Christ brought to this man so steeped in hatred. I supposed that I have grown a bit weary of there always being someone who preferred to cast stones instead of joining in the thanksgiving of a soul that was set free.

Thank you sister for sharing this man's story with us this evening.

May God bring you and your family unexpected joy on your journey.

Sincerely,

chosen

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 217311)
I have visited myspace a few times to check out some friends pages there, but I have never gotten that involved. This particular man that you referred to on this thread impressed me with his testimony. I remembered as a child growing up in very segregated town in East Texas the influences of this particular hate group - the KKK. What a wonderful example of grace this man's testimony has become to those still in the grips of hate that this group has promoted.

Perhaps, I just didn't get the "unique" sense of humor displayed by this brother, because it seemed to take away or distract from the message of deliverance that Christ brought to this man so steeped in hatred. I supposed that I have grown a bit weary of there always being someone who preferred to cast stones instead of joining in the thanksgiving of a soul that was set free.

Thank you sister for sharing this man's story with us this evening.

May God bring you and your family unexpected joy on your journey.

Sincerely,

chosen

Thats why I brought it up, the KKK has been around longer than any gang in Los Angeles.
He is facing some serious opposition for leaving.

I dont know why he took it off, but he did have some interviews of himself with a local radio station that I found rather interesting.

I was really thinking this would generate an interesting conversation.

Perhaps not many found his testimony as amazing as I did? am I wrong?

Steve Epley 08-16-2007 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 217287)
The KKK is alive and well here in Tennessee!!

Nathan Beford Forrest founded them in Pulaski, Tn.

Esther 08-16-2007 08:26 AM

Ku Klux Klan Leader Resigns His Office As Imperial Wizard
03-29-07 Millville, New Jersey - Joseph V. Bednarsky Jr., resigns as leader of the Confederate Knights, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and is disbanding the organization. "I have decided that after many years of fighting for a cause that will never go anywhere, that it is best not only for myself but my family that I resign my office as Imperial Wizard affective immediately" said Bednarsky.

"If you are thinking of joining a group like the Ku Klux Klan or one like it, please think about it before doing so. Don't make the same mistake that I made and waste half your life on a cause that is going nowhere and is based on lies" said Bednarsky.

The sad thing about this is I have heard we have/had ministers that were members of a KKK group.

Very hard for me to believe that any believer no matter the demonination could be a member of such a hate filled group of people.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 217452)
Ku Klux Klan Leader Resigns His Office As Imperial Wizard
03-29-07 Millville, New Jersey - Joseph V. Bednarsky Jr., resigns as leader of the Confederate Knights, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and is disbanding the organization. "I have decided that after many years of fighting for a cause that will never go anywhere, that it is best not only for myself but my family that I resign my office as Imperial Wizard affective immediately" said Bednarsky.

"If you are thinking of joining a group like the Ku Klux Klan or one like it, please think about it before doing so. Don't make the same mistake that I made and waste half your life on a cause that is going nowhere and is based on lies" said Bednarsky.

The sad thing about this is I have heard we have/had ministers that were members of a KKK group.

Very hard for me to believe that any believer no matter the demonination could be a member of such a hate filled group of people.

Yes he is pretty easy to find on the internet, (cant say that I am that easy to find) lets me know he had a pretty serious hand in the KKK.

I guess I need to change my title and include "Imperial". I am not sure where that title places him.

Being in Ca. I have never come across anyone associated with this group-to my knowledge.

Steve Epley 08-16-2007 08:36 AM

I was in a service where a an exWizard was at he had obeyed the truth and was saved. When the pastor introduced who he was the black saints seemed a little uneasy to say the least.

Sherri 08-16-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 217447)
Nathan Beford Forrest founded them in Pulaski, Tn.

Really?????? I didn't know that. Some of our church people live on Nathan Bedford Forest Lane, and would not be happy to hear this! :telephone

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 217465)
I was in a service where a an exWizard was at he had obeyed the truth and was saved. When the pastor introduced who he was the black saints seemed a little uneasy to say the least.

Can you blame them?
I think some questioned this guys conversion is really authentic. I dont know if you looked at his page or not--but he has some pictures of him (he's a big Ole guy too) with some black folk.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 08:51 AM

Some History of the KKK
 
Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the name of several past and present organizations in the United States that have advocated white supremacy, anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, anti-Communism and nativism. These organizations have often used terrorism, violence, and acts of intimidation, such as cross lighting, to oppress African Americans and other social or ethnic groups.

The Klan's first incarnation was in 1866. Founded by veterans of the Confederate Army, its main purpose was to resist Reconstruction, and it focused as much on intimidating "carpetbaggers" and "scalawags" as on putting down the freed slaves. The KKK quickly adopted violent methods. A rapid reaction set in, with the Klan's leadership disowning violence and Southern elites seeing the Klan as an excuse for federal troops to continue their activities in the South. The organization was in decline from 1868 to 1870 and was destroyed in the early 1870s by President Ulysses S. Grant's vigorous action under the Civil Rights Act of 1871 (also known as the Ku Klux Klan Act).

In 1915, a second distinct group was founded using the same name. It was inspired by the newfound power of the modern mass media, via the film The Birth of a Nation and inflammatory anti-Semitic newspaper accounts surrounding the trial and lynching of accused murderer Leo Frank. The second KKK was a formal fraternal organization, with a national and state structure, that paid thousands of men to organize local chapters all over the country. At its peak in the early 1920s, the organization included about 15% of the nation's eligible population, approximately 4–5 million men.[1] The second KKK typically preached racism, anti-Catholicism, anti-Communism, nativism, and anti-Semitism, and some local groups took part in lynchings and other violent activities. Its popularity fell during the Great Depression, and membership fell further during World War II because of scandals resulting from prominent members' crimes and its support of the Nazis.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 08:52 AM

Continued:
The original Ku Klux Klan was created after the end of the American Civil War on December 24, 1865, by six educated, middle-class Confederate veterans[3] from Pulaski, Tennessee, who were bored with postwar routine. The name was constructed by combining the Greek "kyklos" (κυκλος,circle) with "clan"[4]

The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white. Those assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who had served in constitutional conventions."[

berkeley 08-16-2007 11:56 AM

Jeanie,

On the way back from a men's meeting in Rialto several yrs ago, we were on the 99 somewhere outside of Bakersfield.. I looked to the right (east) and there was a bonfire. Around the bonfire was 3 or 4 men dressed in Klan garb.

Steve Epley 08-16-2007 12:50 PM

Mr. Byrd of West Virginia was member of the Klan.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 217677)
Jeanie,

On the way back from a men's meeting in Rialto several yrs ago, we were on the 99 somewhere outside of Bakersfield.. I looked to the right (east) and there was a bonfire. Around the bonfire was 3 or 4 men dressed in Klan garb.

Creepy, I guess they are every where but California doesn't really have a history of a reign of terror like the south does with the KKK.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 217709)
Mr. Byrd of West Virginia was member of the Klan.

I am ignorant, who is Mr Byrd?

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 02:12 PM

Folks Joe has joined the forum-:D

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 217730)
I am ignorant, who is Mr Byrd?

Senator Robert C. Byrd was a Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter in W.V., I knew him personally.

Senator Robert C. Byrd is one of the most influential members of the United States Senate. His name is well known across the state of West Virginia and across the county, but he was not always known as Robert Byrd; he started his life with a different name. His parents, Cornelius and Ada Sale, named him Cornelius Calvin Sale, Jr. He was born during World War I on November 20, 1917. The Sale’s had four other children – three boys and one girl.

Click here for more info on Senator Robert C. Byrd

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 02:22 PM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 217808)
Folks Joe has joined the forum-:D

Thanks for allowing me to be a part of your forum and I look forward to getting to know you and others here.

God Bless, Joe

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bednarsky (Post 217815)
Senator Robert C. Byrd was a Grand Dragon (State Leader) of W.V., I knew him personally.

Senator Robert C. Byrd is one of the most influential members of the United States Senate. His name is well known across the state of West Virginia and across the county, but he was not always known as Robert Byrd; he started his life with a different name. His parents, Cornelius and Ada Sale, named him Cornelius Calvin Sale, Jr. He was born during World War I on November 20, 1917. The Sale’s had four other children – three boys and one girl.

Click here for more info on Senator Robert C. Byrd

sounds like he changed his name to disassociate himself from the KKK.


Joe how long were you a member of the KKK?

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 02:40 PM

Jeanie, I first joined the Klan in 1986 and moved up in rank over the years, I resigned my office as National Leader on March 29, 2007. I was just voted onto that office back in Sept. of 2006, before that I was a Grand Dragon (State Leader) of New Jersey.

Scott Hutchinson 08-16-2007 02:43 PM

MS.was a strong clan stronghold,Philadelphia was a nightmare.
Sam Boyers was ruthless.

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 02:54 PM

Yes it was Scott, I only hope that Mr. Boyers found God before he passed on.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bednarsky (Post 217842)
Jeanie, I first joined the Klan in 1986 and moved up in rank over the years, I resigned my office as National Leader on March 29, 2007. I was just voted onto that office back in Sept. of 2006, before that I was a Grand Dragon (State Leader) of New Jersey.

I dont know very much about the political structure of the KKK-

So if the Grand Dragon is a State Leader

Then how is the Imperial Wizard any different.

revrandy 08-16-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bednarsky (Post 217842)
Jeanie, I first joined the Klan in 1986 and moved up in rank over the years, I resigned my office as National Leader on March 29, 2007. I was just voted onto that office back in Sept. of 2006, before that I was a Grand Dragon (State Leader) of New Jersey.

It's good to see you finally changed your sheets...:D

That Bed was gettin' a lil' Dirty!!

btw... Joe we keep things light hearted a bit around here...no offense...

:D

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 217856)
I dont know very much about the political structure of the KKK-

So if the Grand Dragon is a State Leader

Then how is the Imperial Wizard any different?

An Imperial Wizard is a National Leader like Present Bush is the leader of the United States of America.

Can you please re-word your question, as I don't understand what you are asking?

revrandy 08-16-2007 03:05 PM

How big in number is the Klan in the US?

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bednarsky (Post 217863)
An Imperial Wizard is a National Leader like Present Bush is the leader of the United States of America.

Can you please re-word your question, as I don't understand what you are asking?

You answered it, I read that you were a national leader. Although I didnt fully understand that it was just one leader.

So you were the official head?? Over the whole organization?

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 217866)
How big in number is the Klan in the US?

That would be a hard question to answer only bacuse there are now many Klan organizations operating in America.

Joe Bednarsky 08-16-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 217870)
You answered it, I read that you were a national leader. Although I didnt fully understand that it was just one leader.

So you were the official head?? Over the whole organization?

To answer your question yes, I was the National Leader of that organization.

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bednarsky (Post 217878)
To answer your question yes, I was the National Leader of that organization.

How did God deal with you to leave the org?

Did someone testify to you or witness to you that helped you see that is was wrong to be involved in something like this?

Pastor Keith 08-16-2007 03:14 PM

Joe,

Good to have you on board, we are all mostly Apostolics, in that instead of the denominational religions that is presented in most churches, we teach and preach what the early chruch taught as found in Acts Chapter 2. Are you familar with this?

Elizabeth 08-16-2007 03:15 PM

Joe I have ask my husband to join us over here, my husband Keith is a minister and pastor in California.

Keith4him is my husband.


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