Tv Results In The Mail!
 

I have heard that the forwards are in the mail!
These contain the results of the mail out survey cards.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO!

You should have had them Fed Ex you your copy so you could break the news!

I am shocked that you or someone else on here that is well connected at HQ has not gotten a sneak peek at the results of the survey.

Dude this is like a hit book release... They have hired additional security at WAP, and they are sealing the mailings in padlocked crates.

Nope, but the mailroom guys know that it is not a smart move for them to leak anything...even if they would. I think most of them, if not all, believe in integrity.

LOL!!!! They could have defused the situation by just posting the results in a "ministers only" area of the internet.

Then the mods and libs would have known the results before the ultra cons since the REAL ultra cons don't have internet!!!:killinme

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:laffatu . Nobody truly knows just how UC the Pentamishcostals really are!

why didnt you tell me before cc1 i can find out, lol, dt:hypercoffee

Integrity covers many facets.

The golden rule comes to mind.

I THINK that's what our friend took to the post office...

ROFL

should have had him look

and since you said this...

I'll back you up 100000000% percent

the guy who actually takes the mail to the post office is a friend of ours, and he is very, very trustworthy - I was seriously joking in my above post

and another friend works in the mailroom/shippping dept.

If integrity cannot be found elsewhere at WAP, you can find it in these folks....I guarantee!!!

Why the huge secracy about the results of the survey?

Maybe they have all taken an oath to wait until everyone has received them, then at 9:00 a.m. on 8/29 they will all open them at the same time!

i dont know, i talked to my source and he might be mistaken but he thinks he has the new forward, i dont know when they went out, but if he does he is gonna call me back and tell me about the survey, dt:hypercoffee

It would be funny if the result was 50/50.

I will go on record right here and right now predicting the suvey results will be approximately 65% against the TV resolution and approximately 35% for it give or take 5-7%

But the question is.........

WHERE are we going?

:coffee2

I think it will be 75% for and 75% against. :hypercoffee

Well,

as the results are really off because so many licensed ministers did not send them in, I really am taking no stock in the results. I am wondering if many are just tired of the drama in all this. I know I am.

it's old news and hasnt even happened yet...

not that the results will matter much...those that are gonna do something one way or an other, will find a reason to do "it" anyway...you know? no matter what side they are on..and no matter what their "it" is...

somebody said only 2000 or so responded out of 9000 or so

so you only have 22% of the info....

then again probable no more than 3000 will actually go and vote sooooooo it is possible that the results could tell which side is going to win especially if it is a landslide.

Say 80-20 or so

Based on that information, it looks to me like the fellowship as a whole feels disenfranchised.

Disenfranchised by choice?

There will be no landslide ... just more bloodshed. ... SADLY ENOUGH..

Are you a UPCI licensed pastor?

I think many are tired of it dragging on and on and on. And the point is most UPCI saints have TVs.

I know that they're two different issues but still ....... just seems sad that there has to be so much division and angst over an "issue" that in my mind is not worthy all the turmoil.

Or perhaps there really isn't all that much turmoil in the "real" world. The virtual world of these forums makes it seem like it's a HUGE issue but when I've talked to some of the pastors it's kind of like "ho hum". They'll vote one way or the other but it's not really like such a huge deal as I hear so much about in the virtual world.

I believe the lines have been drawn by both sides. As Theresa said, "those that are gonna do something one way or an other, will find a reason to do "it" anyway...you know? no matter what side they are on..and no matter what their "it" is..."

Ill say this much....IF only 2000 came in....then that tells me that 7,000 dont really care.

AND IF of those 2000 the majority is FOR tv...then its a no brainer!

Since the whole purpose of the poll was so the cons could show it will split the org!

Thank you for expressing my view on this AGAPE!

But the VOTE says....

I am one of the 88% who did not get to sending this in.

If it had been Internet enabled, I would have done it the first day. I can pay dues via the net, but cannot not send in a survey that is supposed to be unbiased and should have been independant. There are companies who specialize in this very thing- online surveys. Save the person having to scan the cards in and let me do a SurveyMonkey survey like companies like HP use.

I forgot, we are not talking a org ready for technology.

Shoot me.

:coffee2

Absolutely. I have heard, and guys on Wordshare have also seemed to confirm that these guys are handling this with great integrity. There have been all kinds of rumors, but the fact is, they are just that...rumors. We'll just have to wait until the mail arrives.

Another reason for Internet Surveys.....

Hanging Chads :sos

I'll go 50% for/against give or take 5-7%.

Wanna put a dinner on this CC1? (btw i have expensive tastes)

I received mine today
but
I'm not talking about it.

I see the Spin Control has already started.

Why wander when you can walk a
Straightline

No not by choice. I think there are 7000 preachers in the UPCI that are out there doing their best to win some folks to the Lord and all that anyone talks about is TV.

what matters to them is not what is being discussed by the vocal majority.

There probably is a big majority out there who don't care either way... probably aren't involved in the politics... just doing their thing for the Lord...

As others have said I think the deciding factor may well be which side has the most show up at GC.

I still maintain that the measure will fail by a decent margin. I would guess that probably the pastors representing a clear majority numerically of the org.s saints are for the TV resolution and more but since their vote counts the same as the us four and no more crowd pastoring a handful that means nothing.

I believe there is also a substantial number of preachers who personally are for the resolution but who value the unity of the mothership more than evangelism and the Great Commission. That is a derogatory way of stating their position but I believe it is true.

I still think there are a bunch of them that dont think they matter.

On both sides for sure!