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Darcie 08-31-2007 05:39 PM

Which one would you rather?
 
If you had NO other choice, would you rather go to a dead Oneness Pentecostal church, or a happening non-denominational church that is probably trinitarian?

And if you'd like please say why.

Arphaxad 08-31-2007 05:45 PM

what is a "happening" church?

Darcie 08-31-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 230320)
what is a "happening" church?

Basically, its all a matter of your opinion, on one hand what YOU would define a dead church, and the other hand one YOU would define as not dead. Happening good worship, children's programs, I don't know whats important to YOU

Arphaxad 08-31-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230321)
Basically, its all a matter of your opinion, on one hand what YOU would define a dead church, and the other hand one YOU would define as not dead. Happening good worship, children's programs, I don't know whats important to YOU

Where Bible Truth is taught and preached is my only concern, so I would go to the "dead" OP church.



ARPH :doggyrun

SDG 08-31-2007 06:44 PM

Yes ... the Spirit of God can move in a Trinnie church.

Darcie 08-31-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 230345)
Yes ... the Spirit of God can move in a Trinnie church.

Is that your choice? Or just commenting?

SDG 08-31-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230354)
Is that your choice? Or just commenting?

A dead church is dead .... there is no LIFE.

Brett Prince 08-31-2007 06:58 PM

Why not go to the "dead" OP church, and start being an example in worship--and try to bring some life to it?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and pray until the Holy Ghost moves?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and be the one who holds the pastor up in prayer, gives him a hearty amen, and stands behind him for revival?

Hmmm...

Blubayou 08-31-2007 07:00 PM

Given the choice I would worship at home or start my own Bible Study.

Darcie 08-31-2007 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 230359)
Why not go to the "dead" OP church, and start being an example in worship--and try to bring some life to it?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and pray until the Holy Ghost moves?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and be the one who holds the pastor up in prayer, gives him a hearty amen, and stands behind him for revival?

Hmmm...

You have a point, I'll give you that. But sometimes there are things you can't change. HMMMMM

SDG 08-31-2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 230359)
Why not go to the "dead" OP church, and start being an example in worship--and try to bring some life to it?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and pray until the Holy Ghost moves?

Why not join the "dead" OP church, and be the one who holds the pastor up in prayer, gives him a hearty amen, and stands behind him for revival?

Hmmm...

It's not like we think they're lost ..... hmmm?

SDG 08-31-2007 07:02 PM

Admin ... I made a mistake w/ my vote ... I'd go to the happening Trinnie church. Can I get a mulligan?

Lost 08-31-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 230363)
It's not like we think they're lost ..... hmmm?

No more than you already are, I suppose.

SDG 08-31-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230365)
No more than you already are, I suppose.


This coming from you ...

Lost 08-31-2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 230366)

This coming from you ...

That's my name; don't wear it out.

SDG 08-31-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230367)
That's my name; don't wear it out.

Sounds like a Praxean joke.

LaVonne 08-31-2007 07:26 PM

I would probably go to the dead oneness church...at least the doctrine would be correct.

Sam 08-31-2007 07:36 PM

Too many variables here.

I would not want to be a part of any dead church, trinitarian or oneness.

However, I could not in good conscience be a part of a oneness church (alive or dead) which preached:
unquestioning obedience to the pastor
salvation by wearing certain clothes
salvation by tithing
everyone is going to hell who has not been baptized in Jesus name
everyone is going to hell who has not spoken with tongues

SDG 08-31-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 230380)
Too many variables here.

I would not want to be a part of any dead church, trinitarian or oneness.

However, I could not in good conscience be a part of a oneness church (alive or dead) which preached:
unquestioning obedience to the pastor
salvation by wearing certain clothes
salvation by tithing
everyone is going to hell who has not been baptized in Jesus name
everyone is going to hell who has not spoken with tongues

Glad you said it.

Lost 08-31-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 230380)
Too many variables here.

I would not want to be a part of any dead church, trinitarian or oneness.

However, I could not in good conscience be a part of a oneness church (alive or dead) which preached:
unquestioning obedience to the pastor
salvation by wearing certain clothes
salvation by tithing
everyone is going to hell who has not been baptized in Jesus name
everyone is going to hell who has not spoken with tongues

With that list of criteria, it wouldn't make a difference which option you picked.

The end result would be the same.

Sam 08-31-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 230345)
Yes ... the Spirit of God can move in a Trinnie church.

Yes, and He does move in trinnie churches.
He moves wherever folks will allow Him to move.

Darcie 08-31-2007 07:44 PM

Of those that picked dead because of doctrine, I'm curious do you have children, especially teens?

Lost 08-31-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230387)
Of those that picked dead because of doctrine, I'm curious do you have children, especially teens?

Silly me. Why not pick an exciting church that preaches false doctrine?

That makes sense. Where have I been all this time?

Darcie 08-31-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230391)
Silly me. Why not pick an exciting church that preaches false doctrine?

That makes sense. Where have I been all this time?


That didn't answer my question

Lost 08-31-2007 07:56 PM

Whether a person has children or not shouldn't factor into whether you'd attend a trinny-preaching church or not. If you'd compromise what you'd let your family believe in favor of "more excitement" you're probably going to bust hell wide open anyhow. Emotionalism, or lack of it, never supersedes truth.

But hey, I'm just Lost.

Darcie 08-31-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230398)
Whether a person has children or not shouldn't factor into whether you'd attend a truth-preaching church or not. If you'd compromise what you'd let your family believe in favor of "more excitement" you're probably going to bust hell wide open anyhow. Emotionalism, or lack of it, never supersedes truth.

But hey, I'm just Lost.

You still haven't answered the question, do you have children? I'm curious to know how many would still take their children, especially teens to a dead church.

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230398)
Whether a person has children or not shouldn't factor into whether you'd attend a trinny-preaching church or not. If you'd compromise what you'd let your family believe in favor of "more excitement" you're probably going to bust hell wide open anyhow. Emotionalism, or lack of it, never supersedes truth.

But hey, I'm just Lost.

My children factor into every decision I make by the way! Don't know about you?

Lost 08-31-2007 08:03 PM

Home Depot has a great sale going on right now. Check it out.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...0053&langId=-1

Sherri 08-31-2007 08:04 PM

I would definitely go the the place that's alive with the power of God. But that's easy for me, since my kids are grown and know what they believe. I refuse to be a part of something that's not alive and growing!

If I had small children, it would not bother me to take them to a church that didn't say they were oneness, as long as they could be baptized in Jesus' name. All those "other" churches out there don't go around saying that they are trinitarian; we've just been taught to say that they are. Most of them don't even know what "oneness" means anyway, so they sure don't preach against it.

And yes, God DOES move mightily in those churches that we refer to as "trinitarian". I think you could go worship there and still retain what you believe about the Godhead. If it's a strong belief, it will withstand opposition anyway.

When I was little, my family went to an AG church in Wyoming, because there was no OP church anywhere around us. We survived those years and still believed in Jesus' name baptism and went back home to a UPC church.

THEY ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES~~~!

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230404)
Home Depot has a great sale going on right now. Check it out.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...0053&langId=-1


Huh?!?!?!?!?!

Lost 08-31-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230402)
My children factor into every decision I make by the way! Don't know about you?

You didn't read the rest of my post.

You don't have to heed anything I may say, but you certainly have to heed what the Bible says. Truth is still Truth whether you choose to obey and acknowledge it or not.

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 230406)
I would definitely go the the place that's alive with the power of God. But that's easy for me, since my kids are grown and know what they believe. I refuse to be a part of something that's not alive and growing!

If I had small children, it would not bother me to take them to a church that didn't say they were oneness, as long as they could be baptized in Jesus' name. All those "other" churches out there don't go around saying that they are trinitarian; we've just been taught to say that they are. Most of them don't even know what "oneness" means anyway, so they sure don't preach against it.

And yes, God DOES move mightily in those churches that we refer to as "trinitarian". I think you could go worship there and still retain what you believe about the Godhead. If it's a strong belief, it will withstand opposition anyway.

When I was little, my family went to an AG church in Wyoming, because there was no OP church anywhere around us. We survived those years and still believed in Jesus' name baptism and went back home to a UPC church.

THEY ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES~~~!

Thank you Sherri! A level headed response, that answers the question.

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 230409)
You didn't read the rest of my post.

You don't have to heed anything I may say, but you certainly have to heed what the Bible says. Truth is still Truth whether you choose to obey and acknowledge it or not.

Wow Lost! It amazes me! You go on and on but you can't seem to answer a simple question. I read the rest of your post.

Malvaro 08-31-2007 08:09 PM

it looks like i wandered into quite the fray.... Daniel and/or Darcie, are you implying that people should consider attending a trinitarian church???

Praxeas 08-31-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230319)
If you had NO other choice, would you rather go to a dead Oneness Pentecostal church, or a happening non-denominational church that is probably trinitarian?

And if you'd like please say why.

Not sure...I'd go for a while to the dead church and pray for it and see if I can get some others to join me in prayer meetings and outreach etc etc...but I have no issue with going to a Trinitarian church that is full of the Holy Ghost as long as they are not constantly trying to push the Trinity on me :hypercoffee

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 230414)
it looks like i wandered into quite the fray.... Daniel and/or Darcie, are you implying that people should consider attending a trinitarian church???

I am not implying anything... it was a discussion some of us were having here locally, and I was curious to know what my fellow AFF'ers thought... and why not stirr things up a bit?

Malvaro 08-31-2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcie (Post 230417)
I am no implying anything... it was a discussion some of us were having here locally, and I was curious to know what my fellow AFF'ers thought... and why not stirr things up a bit?

You're like your brother.... i'll give you that....

Darcie 08-31-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 230424)
You're like your brother.... i'll give you that....

:killinme:killinme:killinme

Sorry, we get it from our dad...he always kept it interesting

Amos 08-31-2007 08:19 PM

Fellowshipping false doctrine is NEVER a good idea.

Everyone I have ever known that did this wound up losing their kids to false doctrine.

"Dead" church may mean whatever, but error is always going to be error.

Worship can be livened up; a move of the Spirit can be prayed down.

But trinitarian doctrine is deception and will cause you to be lost.

Brett Prince 08-31-2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 230385)
Yes, and He does move in trinnie churches.
He moves wherever folks will allow Him to move.

Which He? The Spirit of God, that is the very essence of God Himself, or God the Holy Spirit, third person in the Trini-TEE? :D


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