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revrandy 09-11-2007 09:15 AM

Hair Cutting Party....
 
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

MrsMcD 09-11-2007 09:17 AM

I don't get it either.

It sounds like a wrong spirit to me. Why broadcast it?

Steve Epley 09-11-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

It is open proof of their rejection of the Word of God and an 'in your face' to God and the church.

ILG 09-11-2007 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

I think that's sick.

revrandy 09-11-2007 09:20 AM

I wonder if any pastors who post here have done such a thing?

ILG 09-11-2007 09:23 AM

A woman and her hair is a very personal thing. If a pastor is leaving behind the control freaky ways (supposedly) of telling women what to do with their hair, why the pressure now to cut it?? Seems messed up to me.

Lost 09-11-2007 09:23 AM

Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

How many people did you say were in that church again?

It looks like I'll have more company.

revrandy 09-11-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 238001)
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

How many people did you say were in that church again?

It looks like I'll have more company
.

Now I'm lost??? What meaneth this?? :killinme

Sissy 09-11-2007 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...


I have never heard of such a thing! Seriously, what would be the gain of it all?

Lost 09-11-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 238002)
Now I'm lost??? What meaneth this?? :killinme

No. I'm Lost; you're just revrandy.

Are you always this easily confused?

revrandy 09-11-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 238004)
No. I'm Lost; you're just revrandy.

Are you always this easily confused?

I'm a simple man... of that there is no mystery...

Have you heard of a pastor doing this??

chseeads 09-11-2007 09:32 AM

I've heard supposedly of churches that have had someone teach the women how to do makeup and all that kind of thing after changing their stance on those issues.... Supposedly.

You hear a lot of things and usually can't believe most of them. :)

Lost 09-11-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 238005)
I'm a simple man... of that there is no mystery...

Have you heard of a pastor doing this??

I'll be more careful not to "talk over your head" next time. :)

And no, but it doesn't surprise me. Rebellion takes on many forms.

DividedThigh 09-11-2007 09:38 AM

hair cutting party, that is just stupid and mean spirited, that is a private thing, not the platform thing, no doubt, by the way lost you could use some fashion advice, the hat, lol,dt:hypercoffee:killinme

SDG 09-11-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...


If true ... this is sad and shameful ... it lacks taste and class.

Lost 09-11-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 238013)
hair cutting party, that is just stupid and mean spirited, that is a private thing, not the platform thing, no doubt, by the way lost you could use some fashion advice, the hat, lol,dt:hypercoffee:killinme

Just following in the steps of my "virtual mentor". :hypercoffee

Steve Epley 09-11-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chseeads (Post 238008)
I've heard supposedly of churches that have had someone teach the women how to do makeup and all that kind of thing after changing their stance on those issues.... Supposedly.

You hear a lot of things and usually can't believe most of them. :)

Steve Munsey had the ladies from Mary Kaye come to their church and teach how to paint.

DividedThigh 09-11-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 238027)
Just following in the steps of my "virtual mentor". :hypercoffee

that my friend is scary i will pray for you, and hope, lol,dt:hypercoffee

CC1 09-11-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237997)
I wonder if any pastors who post here have done such a thing?

RevRandy,

Why do I get the feeling that you are fishing? That you probably know of a poster here who is reputed to have done that?

You need to be more subtle!!!!

Steve Epley 09-11-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 238033)
RevRandy,

Why do I get the feeling that you are fishing? That you probably know of a poster here who is reputed to have done that?

You need to be more subtle!!!!

Are you serious??????????????????????????????????????????? ?

revrandy 09-11-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 238033)
RevRandy,

Why do I get the feeling that you are fishing? That you probably know of a poster here who is reputed to have done that?

You need to be more subtle!!!!

I don't know if a poster did or didn't ...but would like to know.. and what the reasoning behind it is.....

and I do love to fish...

drummerboy_dave 09-11-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 238028)
Steve Munsey had the ladies from Mary Kaye come to their church and teach how to paint.

How horrible! Their mom's should have taught them.

Steve Epley 09-11-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 238044)
How horrible! Their mom's should have taught them.

Most of their mother's were geniune Apostolic women not part of the PTL & TBN crowd.

CC1 09-11-2007 10:07 AM

There is a lot of pyschological conditioning that goes on in the legalism of old time so called "holiness" Pentecost.

I think any pastor who tries to bring a congregation from one paradigm into another in a quick fashion is full of folly and will reap confusion.

Very careful groundwork over an extended period of time must be laid down through Biblical teaching to move peoples foundation from being wrapped around legalism to a better understanding of the Gospel.

Without that teaching and preaching over time any sudden outward changes cause a psychological mess in peoples minds as their conditioning over many years causes them great guilt that some then confuse with conviction.

revrandy 09-11-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 238057)
There is a lot of pyschological conditioning that goes on in the legalism of old time so called "holiness" Pentecost.

I think any pastor who tries to bring a congregation from one paradigm into another in a quick fashion is full of folly and will reap confusion.

Very careful groundwork over an extended period of time must be laid down through Biblical teaching to move peoples foundation from being wrapped around legalism to a better understanding of the Gospel.

Without that teaching and preaching over time any sudden outward changes cause a psychological mess in peoples minds as their conditioning over many years causes them great guilt that some then confuse with conviction.

......I would love to see this develope into a Thread...

The Dean 09-11-2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

That is incredible. I've never heard of a hair cutting party. Nevermind the act - the attitude almost makes you sick at your stomach.

I agree with you.

OP_Carl 09-11-2007 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

It's done to the fast-tempo song, "take these shackles off my head so I can dance." :lol :rolleyes2 :sad :vomit

Above all else, it is sad. :angelsad

It is done as a celebration of the triumph of liberality. :evilglee

A liberal pastor comes in on the heels of a departed conservative pastor, and preys upon any carnal attitudes of resistance to pastoral oversight that he can find. In a few short years he has convinced the majority of the congregation that they were victims of an overbearing ogre's temperamental ways, and stuff like this begins to happen.

It is sickening, but not necessarily in the sense that the hair is ruined, but the path down which the sheep will be led has a slaughterhouse at the end of it.

The pastor with which I am familiar that had one of these hair cutting parties on the platform has used the Lord's name in vain, into the microphone, in my presence. That is the tip of the iceberg, in my discernment, of this man's wolf in sheep's clothing persona.

drummerboy_dave 09-11-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 238046)
Most of their mother's were geniune Apostolic women not part of the PTL & TBN crowd.

By "part of the PTL & TBN crowd", you mean unsaved.

OP_Carl 09-11-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 238083)
By "part of the PTL & TBN crowd", you mean unsaved.

unsaved, gullible, wretched, and probably has cooties.

Joseph 09-11-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 238028)
Steve Munsey had the ladies from Mary Kaye come to their church and teach how to paint.

I am surprised he didn't just hire the painters union to come out, since old barn..er women need a fresh coat of paint.

Sherri 09-11-2007 10:52 AM

Honestly, stories like these have been propigated for years about people (like us) who left UPC. I'm not sure any of them are true. But IF they are, then it's shameful and anyone who would do something like this is just plain unwise and full of pride.

aquestioninggirl 09-11-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

That is just bad , bad, bad. I cut my hair but if I saw something like that I would RUN!!!!!!

Joseph 09-11-2007 10:58 AM

Its my party and I'll cut if I want to!

Steadfast 09-11-2007 11:00 AM

I dealt with this very kind of thing in another thread a few weeks back. Saddens my heart to hear of it again and, yes, I've known of it actually being done in the past.

Sad day... for my opinion CLICK HERE.

chosenbyone 09-11-2007 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 238002)
Now I'm lost??? What meaneth this?? :killinme

Lost made reference to that particular scripture and asked the number of congregants who participated in the hair cutting party to imply that hell had enlarged itself for those in attendance.

After reading your admission to being a simple man made clear why you thought Rhoni's comment on another thread was funny. A little less sarcasm and the ability to listen and understand before commenting would lead to more wisdom, IMO brother. :nod

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...?t=7667&page=5

God bless...

revrandy 09-11-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 238122)
Lost made reference to that particular scripture and asked the number of congregants who participated in the hair cutting party to imply that hell had enlarged itself for those in attendance.

After reading your admission to being a simple man made clear why you thought Rhoni's comment on another thread was funny. A little less sarcasm and the ability to listen and understand before commenting would lead to more wisdom, IMO brother. :nod

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...?t=7667&page=5

God bless...

I'm still reading How to Win Friends and Influence People... I'm on the second chapter... Give me some time..

God Bless you...

:driving

drummerboy_dave 09-11-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 238090)
unsaved, gullible, wretched, and probably has cooties.

.....at least. :ernie

RevDWW 09-11-2007 11:31 AM

The problem with "IN YOUR FACE" liberty is that it lacks LOVE.

If I truly have LOVE for my Brothers and sisters, I will not flaunt my liberty to them if it would cause them to stumble.

Actually the actions of "IN YOUR FACE" liberty might even be considered prideful.

redeemedcynic84 09-11-2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 237989)
Here's something I don't understand... if a Pastor is going to change what he believes on Women cutting hair... Why do it so blatantly in your face type of of way?

I have heard of Pastors giving "hair Cutting" party on the Platform... Wife and others ladies getting their hair cut?

What is so celebratory about it other than possibly just a "wrong" spirit...

It just doesn't seem to be something to celebrate???

in other words I don't get it...

I would say it probably has to do with making sure everyone realizes that they are free to choose to do what they want...

That and it eliminates any "underground" pressure not to do it... It makes sure people are free to make thier own decision and won't have any outside pressure because all the women will do the majority of the cutting together if they choose to get it cut...

(note: this is to try and understand why someone would do this... I'm not necessarily saying that this is why it happened... Only trying to make sure this isn't "THIS IS SO HORRIBLE" constantly... We should try to understand where they are coming from and why they would do it before we condemn them/it)

Steadfast 09-11-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 238140)
The problem with "IN YOUR FACE" liberty is that it lacks LOVE.

If I truly have LOVE for my Brothers and sisters, I will not flaunt my liberty to them if it would cause them to stumble.

Actually the actions of "IN YOUR FACE" liberty might even be considered prideful.

RevDDW,

The term you used is quite interesting. I agree with you.

Here is my take on it;
"IN YOUR FACE" liberty is just as bad as COMPETITIVE holiness found on the other extreme.


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