I went to Walter Hawkins church Tonight!
 

They had a late night Concert honoring the Late Bishop E.E Cleveland who founded & pastored the Ephesians Institutional COGIC till his death at age 94 in Oakland. He was the founding pioneer in the Bay area. All of the Hawkin Clan came from his church. he had a huge church of many thousands.

anyhow, the place was standing Room only- hotter than H- - - , no air conditioning, people fanning themselves with fans, people standing outside and packed in the halls(overflow).

since we first had to go to our church, we missed a lot of it, but what we heard was awesome of course. Bishop Blake of west angeles was there.

I have a feeling most of the people here at AFF could not tolerate the environment LOL!:killinme It's VERY Urban, in a BAAAD Neighborhood, I mean BAD, SCARY ,and you see a little bit of EVERYTHING! lol Even in the church. you just take what you see and move on- A world of difference than traditional UPC. But i will say, the people are really friendly and kind and the crowd is full of energy, I mean charged! never a dull moment.

well, that's it for the moment

Depends what UPC church you mean.

trust me on this one Trouvere, Love center is completley different than ANY UPC church you will EVER i mean EVVVVR in your life time visit :killinme

You haven't been to Louisiana have you?

Uuuh, I can see i am not getting Thru here - O well I tried.

I'm not going into details either :killinme

i know what u mean Thad.. I love visiting black churches! They got so much Spirit!!!! speaking of which i am going to a tye tribbett concert in kansas city, MO friday (Lord willing) and i am PUMPED!!!!!!!!!! He was in Little Rock a few months back and it was OFF DA HOOK!!!!!!!!!

He does a Great concert! and usually preaches too
and let me tell you, he does not hold his tongue!! it will be very forth right!
we opened up for him a few months ago it was a great experience.

Did you know that he just did another live recording in VA. last month ?

No tye def doesn't hold his tongue.. when he was here in LR they were having probs with the sound so he went ahead and preached a little while while they got the kinks out... You coulda heard a pen drop in that place when he started preaching against rap and r&b and all that stuff.. We were like "PREACH IT BROTHA!!" LOL
Yeah i can't wait for the new album to come out!!

we was shocked here when he OPENLY spoke out against TD JAKES and Fred Hammond!!! YES! he called their names out publically!!!


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speaking out how?

Details??? What did he say against them??

I had stepped out for a while when he said what he did

I could ask my director.


I believe (i think!) and if i recall right, Jakes Had beyonce at his church?? and Ty was talking about how he compromised

Thad why do you think that these people are alot nicer than others (if you know what I mean) I love tramaine!! She is awesome! Tramaine will be in concert in Oct. on a Sunday.....

Edwin & Walter traveled with my father for a season Edwin more than Walter. But I know them both. They seemed a little sweet to me not accusing them or anything.

LOL!!! I remember Edwin's big hairdo in the late 70's. Back in my JCM days Edwin and Wlater Hawkins along with Tramaine had some of the best gospel music in the world going on!!!!

I didn't go myself but a bunch of JCMers got in trouble around 1978 or 1979 for going to a Hawkins concert. Sister Tramaine almost had a "wardrobe malfunction" when she was excitedly singing leaned too far over the stage down toward the audience. It was the talk of the JCM kids that had gone! LOL.

THAD - I wish I would have been there with you! I love the Hawkins Family - my wife grew up with them!
I grew up in Memphis and would sneak down to Bishop J. O. Patterson's and LORD HELP that church was SO HOT on Sunday nights and they would dance till midnight! I got beat by my Dad so many times for going down there!
When Gilbert Earl started Bountiful Blessings Temple of Deliverance - I joined the first Sunday and LOVED the Black Church and the COGIC.

You are SO RIGHT! Ain't NO CHURCH like those Churches. LOL I know JUST what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know Church Alive is 70% black and we have just tapped into a group from Ghana and they LOVE IT. Had several Puerto Rican Families this week too!
Thanks for the report!

You and i have something major in common I see ! lol !
I know most of us whiteys fear the inner city lol, but this churches have such a Vibe that is like a breath of life! they really know how to create an environment of LIFE. If im ever in Atl i will def. stop by!

i have a UPC friend who is working with a jamacian choir he said they have a hard time with their vowells haha!

CC, they have STILL got it ! they can sing just like they did 30+ years ago it's amazing!


thanks for posting!

Yep I have to be honest, i think i stated that there is a little bit of Everything there! it's like a human show! never a dull moment and many wonders to marvel at lol

Just out of curiosity, were the fans all cardboard cut outs clued to a wooden stick with a picture of Martin Luther on it?

Only black churches come up with cool sounding names like that. White churches having boring names lol

some of the names are something else! they have some crazy ones i can name im sure Epley and ATL BIshop can too

I preached at one in Miami - The House of God which is the Church of the Living God, Pillar and Ground of the Truth, Built on the Rock of the Apostolic Faith, Without Controversy, INCORPORATED.And that is the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

NO WAY THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


please tell me NOOOOOOOOOO! ! ! !


ATL are you sure ???????

Thad do you remember back when your brother was thinking of renaming the church? You asked me for some names ... Rob came up with some off the wall wild... he said it would fit in there perfectly and I think you laughed over it for a week but I cant remember the name of it...

Oh and then there is one we passed the other day...

Holy Trinitarian Apostolic Church of Our Father God Holy Assembly! Its on MLK in Dallas... I had to pull over to read the sign!

I also preached at "God's Outpatient Clinic" in Chattanooga, TN in the 70's and then "God's Hospital" in Lenoir City, TN.

Oh - And The Baptist Church of the Good Shepard in Miami - I know someone else that has preached there too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are some others I have preached in:
Butt's Temple Church of God in Christ of East Central Florida - Daytona Beach and it is STILL THERE! - Bishop Henry L. Butts, Mother Butts, Missionary Butts, Elder Butts, Deacon Butts and the pastor had 13 little Butts running around!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love funny Church names!

Every time I read your sig line I see the word wrong "SOFA" yes I used to be dyslexic so every time I see it I think well... He is a preacher who dont get out much! LOL sorry now I can move on past this.... Yes I know they have medicine for this!!! I am officially insane tonight but thats ok...

As for the name of the church........ I believe it!

Ok and since Thad is here .... question... What happened??? Stix posted! I know I am not that insane tonight but now he shows no posts!!!

hahahahahahahaha!!! Waaaaay too too funny ! BUTTS TEMPLE??? That is just Horrific what are these people thinking ????????????????????????????

i played at little store front one day and low and behold they called " MOther PIGG up to have words!!! I almost fell off the organ bench!! llol

they had a church in Oakland called " NOAH"S CHATOE " lol

yep Ron came up with some doozies!

:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme:kill inme Oh God I am dyin here!! THAD!!!!!!!! Too funny and the SPELLING made it even better!!!!!!!!!:killinme:killinme:killinme

Steel Guitars
 

I PROMISE YOU! I asked them what do you call it - they said - The House of God! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a movement in South Florida called the House of God - Have you heard those black guys that go CRAZY on the STEEL GUITARS????? They are all from that Church! Here is a little bit about it.
The House of God Church, a black Pentecostal movement founded in 1903 by evangelist M. L. Tate. Following Tate's death in 1930, a struggle among church leaders resulted in a court order that separated the church into three "dominions." Two of them, the Keith and the Jewel dominions, adopted the lap-steel guitar as the primary instrument of church music.

whatever ! ! ! !
:sshhh

ok... I will be nice now chaTOE:sshhh:killinme:killinme:killinme

The House of God which is the Church of the Living God, Pillar and Ground of the Truth, Built on the Rock of the Apostolic Faith, Without Controversy, INCORPORATED - Jewel Dominion or Kieth Dominion

i don't think I have ever heard of them ...UNLESS they are the same ones who believe in beating their children in front of the whole church to teach them a lesson?? I remember some big case about this in Atlanta.

The House of God
 

No - not the same bunch - These Black Guys are INCREDIBLE on the Steel Guitars and they all are saved and filled! They play for a lot of the BIG festivals and I see them in some movies and all too. I think one was in THE APOSTLE and then from time to time - I see them on other shows. They are Incredible and all from - The House of God...........................

intersting
are they african or black american ?