It is NOT cold out here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I certainly sympathize with those who feel their need to leave the UPC but the good news is many have made it without them forever. Good things are happening now outside the domain of the UPC in the ranks of conservatives namely:
1. The AMC meeting great meeting for conservative preachers and their families.
2. The IAM foundation a clearinghouse to send mission dollars without it being plundered by organizational officials.
3. THe Apostolic Compass a magazine for conservative preachers and churches.
4. Conferences-camps-meetings galore across this nation where hosted by conservative men with conservative men preaching.
Just to name o few. NOT COLD AT ALL!!!!!!!!

Great sales pitch. Can't say I didn't see this one coming.

It hit 88 here in Houston today. 90 degrees yesterday.

I noticed something missing.....SOULS. It sounds like what I said before....the circle the wagon mentality

Souls ... ??? Not w/ all the hogs that need butchering.

Looks like a script for a television commercial.

Elder Epley is the designated Internet Promotions Director ... get it staight.

Missed it, did ya?

Now I must have missed it???

Mission dollars to CONSERVATIVE missionaries....his post is all about the Conservative Ministers

http://www.harris-academy.com/depart...ssB/circle.jpg

It was also a slam on FMD.

This will probably come as a shock to you.

Conservative preachers support conservative missionaries.

Not one dollar to TBN, ORU or J. Swaggart.

:D

:killinme:killinme:killinme

Are you suggesting support goes only to those who spread company propanda?

Well Yeah I realized that, but I wanted to keep this ball arollin along....but then again was I surprised at it? Nope

Right...exactly...so what about the souls now?

OP and SE I will be praying that God take away the bitterness y'all feel against the mothership.

Are we living in a vacuum??? ... Most of us here know what this is a reference to ...

The Elder insinuates that other officials outside of IAM plunder the funds ....

Maybe this will help ...

plunder
verb To rob of goods by force, especially in time of war: depredate, despoil, havoc, loot, pillage, ransack, rape, ravage, sack 2, spoliate, strip

Pearls before swine.

Haven't you perfected the art of saying something you mean then turning around and says it means something else?

Shouldn't it be... seeing as those are the ones purported to be leaving the UPCI?

Sick post! Typical of TV1A but sick never the less!

Dan,

Considered in light of the FMD overhead, a case might be made for this word usage to be accurate. You see, 100% of every dollar passing through the IAM foundation goes to the designated ministry. Some, including the men who started the IAM foundation, saw the overhead as unnecessary plundering of contributed funds.

Goodness gracious sakes alive...

With the exception of a few posts....what a thread of off the hip potshots.

Brother Epley and I don't always see eye to eye on things but there wasn't anything wrong with his post and nor was it bashing.

He was just saying that, for those who do choose move on both now and any other time, there is life beyond the UPC.

Amazing...

Not to down what you are saying but I notice how you emphasize the men,men men thing.The UPC may not be perfact but at least they are more understanding when it comes to people who were divorced before they came to Jesus and don't deny women who are submitted ministry.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL LLLLLLLLLL??????

How is it that the UC's that want to leave are bitter? I guess maybe you libs don't read your own post. The main bitterness I read comes from the Lib post. Maybe nobody read the "Goodbye Kansas Preacher" thread, and we're bitter? The fact is that there is a large overhead with the FMD, we've been using IAM for a while for that very reason. Why do I want to put money in an officals pocket when I can put 100% in the missionary pocket? Also, we've been going to AMC for a while, we also take our kids to heritage. this will be an easy transition for us.

No one is taking pot shots at FMD Phil and Dig??????

Elder Epley seems to agree the PLUNDERING IS NEFARIOUS.

Isn't plundering, as a general rule, nefarious?

I don't think the men men men were the main point in Elder Epley's post.

If you know Elder E's view on this you'd reconsider ... conservative preachers means MALE to him.

(You edited your post so I don't have your last comment)

It is an opinion of the circumstances.

I have sought out ways to send monies directly to missionaries because of my disdain with the amount of monies given to missionaries that never make it past Missouri.

It has been discussed on here (or on any number of AFF predecessors.)

I think that a clearinghouse that gets money to missionaries is a really great idea and one that is far more efficient than what is currently in place.

To feel this way and express that opinion isn't a potshot... At least no in my opinion.

One thing is to think it's more efficient and the other is view it as ROBBING.

There was another set of definitions available for the term plunder... you didn't list those.

I think this is the one most fitting for what Brother Epley was saying... but it was left out.

I just said what I meant without commentary. I stand behind my statement. Actually it was not meant as a slam but facts are facts. The IAM does NOT take ONE penny out of designated money to missionaries that is the difference. Plundering might have been too strong of a word so supply the word for me Dan?? I send $100 to missionary X and he only gets $75 of it or less splain what that is?