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Kutless 10-02-2007 10:51 AM

Altar Workers
 
If you could give three pieces of advice to someone working with a seeker what would they be.


I would say......

1. Very limited physical contact

2. No stinky breath

3. Worship with them out loud.

philjones 10-02-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 260315)
If you could give three pieces of advice to someone working with a seeker what would they be.


I would say......

1. Very limited physical contact

2. No stinky breath

3. Worship with them out loud.


In addition to your good advice I would encourage them to affirm the promise of the Holy Ghost and for them to encourage the seeker to seek the infilling of the Holy Ghost and not Tongues!

Nahum 10-02-2007 11:31 AM

1. I would make sure and lead them to a place of repentance. Otherwise they're gonna get frustrated really quick.

2. I would remove all well-meaning idiots from the area. You know, the ones who say "if you take those earring off, God will give you His Spirit?"

3. I would make sure that they realize their need to obey the two commands in order to receive the promise. a. repent, b. baptism.

Mrs. LPW 10-02-2007 12:30 PM

I would advise well meaning folk to not go after someone in the alter without first getting permission from the person who brought them to church.

We've got our neighbours coming right now and she went to the alter for the first time and although we tried to protect her some well meaning folk "jumped" her... and scared her near to death.

If the person in the alter didn't come alone, the person who brought them would surely know their background best... (ie, our neighbour has a Catholic background and was no where near ready for her head to be shook half off and her arms and back to be massaged by total strangers)

She hasn't gone back to the alter yet.
We've explained why people did that, but it hasn't made it any easier for her to take the second try...

I think sincere churches in the business of saving souls should have a little course/class on how to pray with people... or how NOT to.

LaGirl 10-02-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW (Post 260403)
I would advise well meaning folk to not go after someone in the alter without first getting permission from the person who brought them to church.

We've got our neighbours coming right now and she went to the alter for the first time and although we tried to protect her some well meaning folk "jumped" her... and scared her near to death.

If the person in the alter didn't come alone, the person who brought them would surely know their background best... (ie, our neighbour has a Catholic background and was no where near ready for her head to be shook half off and her arms and back to be massaged by total strangers)

She hasn't gone back to the alter yet.
We've explained why people did that, but it hasn't made it any easier for her to take the second try...

I think sincere churches in the business of saving souls should have a little course/class on how to pray with people... or how NOT to.


good post!

Kutless 10-03-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW (Post 260403)
I would advise well meaning folk to not go after someone in the alter without first getting permission from the person who brought them to church.

We've got our neighbours coming right now and she went to the alter for the first time and although we tried to protect her some well meaning folk "jumped" her... and scared her near to death.

If the person in the alter didn't come alone, the person who brought them would surely know their background best... (ie, our neighbour has a Catholic background and was no where near ready for her head to be shook half off and her arms and back to be massaged by total strangers)

She hasn't gone back to the alter yet.
We've explained why people did that, but it hasn't made it any easier for her to take the second try...

I think sincere churches in the business of saving souls should have a little course/class on how to pray with people... or how NOT to.

great post....and to the others as well.

Anyone been a part of alter workers training?

rgcraig 10-03-2007 10:36 AM

I would spell it altar.

Kutless 10-03-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 261668)
I would spell it altar.

thanks for your input.

Old Paths 10-03-2007 11:00 AM

Don't SCREAM!


:D

pelathais 10-03-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW (Post 260403)
I would advise well meaning folk to not go after someone in the alter without first getting permission from the person who brought them to church.

We've got our neighbours coming right now and she went to the alter for the first time and although we tried to protect her some well meaning folk "jumped" her... and scared her near to death.

If the person in the alter didn't come alone, the person who brought them would surely know their background best... (ie, our neighbour has a Catholic background and was no where near ready for her head to be shook half off and her arms and back to be massaged by total strangers)

She hasn't gone back to the alter yet.
We've explained why people did that, but it hasn't made it any easier for her to take the second try...

I think sincere churches in the business of saving souls should have a little course/class on how to pray with people... or how NOT to.


... Here is wisdom!

philjones 10-03-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 261693)
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... Here is wisdom!

Amen!

ONE (note I said one) of the reasons my wife is not saved is because she, being of a Roman Catholic background, is terrified of going to the altar. She does not want folks in her face or grabbing her hand or touching her too much in any way. As a result of that fear she just doesn't go to church and the church in her town is THE POA. She would rather sit at home and watch Joyce Meyer or Crefflo or Chuck Stanley on TV or A Mangun on the internet.

Good training of altar workers is very important and should be conducted on a regularly scheduled basis.

marthaolivia 10-03-2007 01:05 PM

...reminds me...last year my daughter went to the altar to seek the HG. God had been dealing with her for awhile. She was really praying out loud when a man praying around her told her to quit speaking English. She stopped praying altogether and told him "I don't know any other language". BTW she did not get the HG that night..

Kutless 10-03-2007 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marthaolivia (Post 261924)
...reminds me...last year my daughter went to the altar to seek the HG. God had been dealing with her for awhile. She was really praying out loud when a man praying around her told her to quit speaking English. She stopped praying altogether and told him "I don't know any other language". BTW she did not get the HG that night..

WOW!

bethola 10-03-2007 06:38 PM

We have had SEVERAL Altar Workers Training Seminars at my church. Unfortunately, the people that NEED the training never come, because, well......they don't think they are the people that need it!

I agree with ALL the previous posts. My husband is an incredible altar worker and he rarely touches anyone. He speaks slowly, clearly and QUIETLY to them (usually direcly into their ear) continually speaking encouraging words. I think it is his gifting. He doesn't do altar work much anymore, however, because he doesn't hear well and hearing aids only make the many and varied sounds around the altar LOUD and GARBLED!

Kutless 10-04-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bethola (Post 262243)
We have had SEVERAL Altar Workers Training Seminars at my church. Unfortunately, the people that NEED the training never come, because, well......they don't think they are the people that need it!

I agree with ALL the previous posts. My husband is an incredible altar worker and he rarely touches anyone. He speaks slowly, clearly and QUIETLY to them (usually direcly into their ear) continually speaking encouraging words. I think it is his gifting. He doesn't do altar work much anymore, however, because he doesn't hear well and hearing aids only make the many and varied sounds around the altar LOUD and GARBLED!

I encourage your husband to stay in the altar. Can he not just turn the aid down and rely on previous experience as well as lip reading?

My mother wears hearing aids as well and she is an awesome pianist but because of feed back, increased lack of hearing she has limited her playing quite a bit. Its so unfortunate because she is such a blessing with her annointed playing.

I cannot stand when I see the laying on of hands become so physical that it changes the posture of the seeker. Makes me want to punch somebody!

I also seriously question the altar worker who rushes to tell the seeker what happened to them before they can even enjoy the experience. I've seen it announced in the pulpit before eyes are even open. ANy comments on that?

MrsMcD 10-04-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 261668)
I would spell it altar.

:killinme:killinme

Kutless 10-04-2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 262659)
:killinme:killinme

another in depth post....the wisdom some of you have on this topic amazes me. :hypercoffee:killinme

Neck 10-04-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 260315)
If you could give three pieces of advice to someone working with a seeker what would they be.


I would say......

1. Very limited physical contact

2. No stinky breath

3. Worship with them out loud.

Seek some advice from the person that brought them to church.

Kutless 10-04-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 262876)
Seek some advice from the person that brought them to church.

NIce one Neck........Whats their name, any church experience....to name a couple. Thanks bro.

LadyRev 10-04-2007 11:13 AM

Don't Spit!


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