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How Many "3 Steppers" Do We Have On Aff???

I heard this term when I was younger, people referred to us as "3 Steppers" supposedly we got this name from the PCI years ago .... any "3 Steppers" out there?

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Three steps? Around here, we refer to three steppers as "Greasy Gracers." Everybody knows that there are not three, but seven steps to salvation.

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The Seven Steps of Salvation
(By Simeon Young, Sr. and Simeon Young, Jr.)

The Means of Grace

Suppose a man who cannot swim falls overboard. Suppose his friend in the boat throws him a lifeline and pulls him to safety.

Who or what saved the drowning man? His friend? The Lifeline? The life preserver? The boat? Or did the man save himself? The answer, of course, is that his friend saved him, the lifeline, and the life preserver, and the boat saved him. He also saved himself.

This simple parable helps us understand that it is as foolish to say that we are saved by grace alone as it would be for the drowning man to claim that any one of the above means saved him without other intervention.

The Bible certainly does teach that we are saved by grace. But it also teaches that God uses means. These means are called by theologians, the "means of grace."

This study lists seven of God's chosen "means of grace," and is intended to be a quick reference and teaching tool. On these pages we have compiled pertinent portions of the pure Word of God to show how God saves us by His grace.

When the truth of salvation by grace is better understood, the doctrine of easy believism loses its siren appeal.

~ Simeon Young, Sr. ~

The Significance of Seven

The number seven was sacred for the ancient Jews and played a prominent role in their religious life.

The children of Israel obeyed God's command to march around the city of Jericho once each day for six days and the seventh day they walked around Jericho seven times. At the sound of the trumpet, when they shouted a great shout, the city walls crumbled. (Joshua 6:4)

Elisha sent his messenger/servant to Naaman the leper, captain of the Syrian army, to tell him to wash seven times in the Jordan river. He obeyed and he was healed. (II Kings 5:10)

The Word of God declares, "And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all his work" (Genesis 2:2-3)

The number seven indicates perfection and symbolizes completeness or wholeness. In this Bible study we show the necessity of these basic seven progressive steps of salvation. Without all of the seven steps there is no salvation.
~ Simeon Young, Jr. ~

Step 1 - Saved by Grace

Definition of Grace: 1. The unmerited love and favor of God; 2. A state of reconciliation with God.

Someone demonstrated that the letters of the word grace suggest the acrostic - "Great Redemption At Christ's Expense" G.R.A.C.E.

Romans 3:23,24 - "...all have sinned and come short of the glory of God; being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus..."

Titus 2:11 - "...for the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men..."

Ephesians 2:5 - "...even when we were dead in sins, hath [He] quickened us together with Christ; for by grace ye are saved."

We can not be saved without the grace of God. The unmerited favor of God gives us the privilege of being saved, but we are not saved by grace alone and apart from God's chosen means.

Ephesians 2:8 - "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."

Step 2 - Saved by Faith

Definition of Faith: 1. Confidence or trust; 2. Spiritual acceptance of truth; 3. Belief in God

Ephesians 2:8 - "...by grace are ye saved through faith."

I Peter 1:9 - "...receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."

To be saved we must have faith in God.

Hebrews 11:6 - "...without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him."

Mark 16:16 - "...he that believeth not shall be damned."

James 2:19-20 - "thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

When someone says, "I believe," it doesn't necessarily mean that they are saved, because the devils also believe. Devils are definitely not saved. There is more to salvation than saying, "I believe in God."

Romans 10:10 - "...with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Step 3 - Saved by Confession

Definition of Confession: 1. To disclose sins or faults to God; 2. To unburden the conscience; 3. To acknowledge guilt, wrong-doing or sinfulness; 4. To admit to unbecoming deeds.

Romans 10:10 - "...with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Someone said, "Confession is good for the soul."

Make a list of things in your life that you know displease God.

1. ________________________________________

2. ________________________________________

3. ________________________________________

4. ________________________________________

I John 1:9 - "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

James 5:16 - "Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another, that ye may be healed."

Confession involves transparency and honesty.

Proverbs 28:13 - "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoever confesses and forsaketh them shall have mercy."

Three might be enough for charismatic greasy gracers, but seven is twice as good plus one.

My friend, you must not stop at three - It took seven for Naaman.

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Step 4 - Saved by Repentance

Definition of Repentance: 1. To change one's mind; 2. To turn around; 3. To forsake sin; 4. To make an about face

Proverbs 28:13 - "...whoso confesseth and forsaketh his sins shall have mercy."

It is not enough to merely confess our sins. We must turn from sin to be saved.

II Corinthians 7:10 - "For godly sorrow worketh repentance unto salvation..."

Luke 13:3 - "...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

II Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not...willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Repentance is more than being sorry for one's sins. It involves a lifestyle-mindset adjustment. It is exciting to turn away from the old life of sin and condemnation!

We must not stop here.

Acts 2:38 - "Then Peter said unto them, repent, and be baptized everyone of you..."

Step 5 - Saved by Baptism

Definition of Baptism: 1. To dip, plunge, or submerge; 2. A religious ceremony signifying spiritual purification by immersion in water.

I Peter 3:21 - "...baptism doth also now save us..."

Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..."

Acts 8:16 - "...they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."

Acts 10:48 - "...he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord."

Acts 22:16 - "...and why tarriest thou? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."

Acts 10:43 - "...through His name whosoever believeth on Him shall receive remission of sins."

Luke 24:47 - "...remission of sins should be preached in His name..."

Acts 2:38 - "The Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Step 6 - Saved by the Holy Ghost

Jesus said to Nicodemus, "...except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). Nicodemus asked Jesus, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? (John 3:6). Jesus said to Nicodemus, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" (John 3:5)

Romans 8:9 - "...if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His."

Romans 8:14 - "...as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."

How do I know if I have received the Spirit of God? What is the initial physical evidence? read about the new birth experience in Acts 2:1-4.

Acts 10:44-46 - "While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the Word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God..."

Read Acts 19:1-6

Step 7 - Saved by Endurance

Definition of Endurance: 1. The act, quality, or power of withstanding hardship; 2. The state or fact of persevering; 3. Continuing existence; duration.

The writer of Hebrews referred to the Christian life as a race. Hebrews 12:1 - ...let us run with patience the race that is set before us..."

To finish the Christian race we must keep running and enduring. It is not enough to begin this race by having faith, confessing sins, forsaking sins, being baptized in Jesus' name and receiving the Holy ghost. We must continue on with the Lord.

Matthew 10:22 - "...he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

Matthew 24:13 - "...he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved."

II Timothy 2:3 - "...endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 12:7 - "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons..."

James 1:12 - "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love Him."

"Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. For if the Word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation...? (Hebrews 2:1-3)

On the road to Heaven, it will take many steps and they all need to be in the right direction. While you're walking this walk, one must be honest and bear the fruits of the spirit. Without that, the 3 steps are of none effect. People must go on into perfection (meaning completeness). A man who'll continue to lie, cheat, and steal after obeying Acts 2:38 is as lost as a man who never obeyed it.

By the way, all those other verses in the Bible are important, too. They are not merely filler after Acts 2:38. :hypercoffee

I don't know Caston and am not directing those comments to him personally.

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Originally Posted by Stephanas (Post 282589)

Three steps? Around here, we refer to three steppers as "Greasy Gracers." Everybody knows that there are not three, but seven steps to salvation.

Three might be enough for charismatic greasy gracers, but seven is twice as good plus one.

I resent that ..... I'm no where near being a charismatic.

From my understanding that's what the PCI men called the PAJC brethren back years ago because PAJC believed in the 3 steps of Salvation, repentance, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin, and the in filling of the Holy Ghost speaking with tongues; hence 3 steppers.

I've been in Oneness Pentecostalism my entire life, and never heard of "seven steppers" ...

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282605)

Stephanas meant that facetiously, I think.

Repent, turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out. Acts 3:19

Jesus is enough.

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282582)

I heard this term when I was younger, people referred to us as "3 Steppers" supposedly we got this name from the PCI years ago .... any "3 Steppers" out there?

To answer your question, "How many..." I'd say that depends. There's a very vocal contingent of "conservative" and "ultraconservatives" that adhere to the 3 Stepper way. They seem to post in packs and then fall silent for a time.

My impression is that the majority of folks here are of the "3 Stepper" way when it comes to the practical application of the Gospel, however they tend not to be harsh and judgmental when it comes to other beliefs.

I guess you could say most folks appear to follow the spirit of the UPC's Fundamental Doctrine, particularly the part about not striving against the unity of the body. And I say that realizing that most of the more active posters are not even UPC.

7 steps of savation. Very good reading and studying. By the way, where is Wing, Alabama? I live in the NE corner of the GREAT State of Alabama.

It would appear that Caston Smith's sense of humor was washed away when he was baptized.

There is always one more step in the maze of salvation...

You all are just wrong!!

Cut the boy a little slack.....

:pirate

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282605)

Everybody is somebody's charismatic.

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The number seven indicates perfection and symbolizes completeness or wholeness. In this Bible study we show the necessity of these basic seven progressive steps of salvation. Without all of the seven steps there is no salvation.
~ Simeon Young, Jr. ~

Maybe they reduced the requirements for folks from Alabama, kind of a "Salvation for Dummies; How to get saved in three easy steps."

I never really heard the terms "three-stepper" and "one-stepper" until becoming familiar with forums (or is it "fora") like this.

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Originally Posted by Stephanas (Post 282633)

Everybody is somebody's charismatic.

Maybe they reduced the requirements for folks from Alabama, kind of a "Salvation for Dummies; How to get saved in three easy steps."

Wait... I'm from Alabama and I liked what you posted!

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282605)

To make peace, why don't you go through and decide which four of the seven steps you don't need to be saved.

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 282639)

Wait... I'm from Alabama and I liked what you posted!

There's an exception to every rule, and a gifted child in every class. Looks like you won the state lottery.

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282605)

Some charismatics watch television, other charismatics entertain themselves with the Internet. If you're reading this on a video display, you're somebody's charismatic.

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282582)

I heard this term when I was younger, people referred to us as "3 Steppers" supposedly we got this name from the PCI years ago .... any "3 Steppers" out there?

Are you asking us to each declare publicly whether we are one, three, four, seven or whatever steppers so we can publish a list? or two lists? Then we can line the two lists up side by side and see how many are on each list.

I think a lot of folks (preachers and Apostolic Pentecostal church members) believe down inside that some folks will go to Heaven who have not been baptized in Jesus' Name and/or who have not spoken with tongues but they are afraid to admit it publicly.

I think most, if not all, of us here believe in, preach, and practice Acts 2:38. We just believe that justification/forgiveness/salvation/regeneration occur at different points in the two commands and one promise of that verse.

Why, thank ya kindly. I didn't know who Simeon Young (Sr or Jr) was until I did a little searching. Very good article you posted there. Can ya tell me where its from? The PH?

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282582)

All the guy did was ask a simple question. Yes, I'm a 3 stepper and 7 stepper, and a many more stepper, and sometimes I stop stepping and wait on the Lord. and I refuse to be stepped on!

ARPH :doggyrun..............With 4 legs I step twice as fast too :pirate

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 282657)

Why, thank ya kindly. I didn't know who Simeon Young (Sr or Jr) was until I did a little searching. Very good article you posted there. Can ya tell me where its from? The PH?

http://www.theworldofpentecost.org/B...0Salvation.htm

I'm still waiting for our three step friend to tell me which four we can cross off the salvation list.

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 282625)

It would appear that Caston Smith's sense of humor was washed away when he was baptized.

Didnt you know you couldnt have the Holy ghost and joy at the same time?!?!?! BROTHERRRRRRRRRRR Do we have to drive down there and beat the real holy ghost into you?!?!:snapout:snapout:snapout

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 282656)

I think a lot of folks (preachers and Apostolic Pentecostal church members) believe down inside that some folks will go to Heaven who have not been baptized in Jesus' Name and/or who have not spoken with tongues but they are afraid to admit it publicly.

I don't believe that .... there is absolutely no salvation outside of Acts 2:38.

I believe new believers are to obey two commands.

Obedience to those two commands, repentance and baptism, is our responsibility.

The gift of the Holy Ghost is something God does. It is a promise from Him to us.

Sooooooo, three stepper? I don't like that term.

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Originally Posted by Stephanas (Post 282669)

http://www.theworldofpentecost.org/B...0Salvation.htm

I'm still waiting for our three step friend to tell me which four we can cross off the salvation list.

Acts 2:38 which is no doubt the ORIGINAL plan of Salvation makes only mentions of 3 steps. Repentance, water baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the in filling of the Holy Ghost.

So keep the 3 steps mentioned in Acts 2:38 and you can toss the other four. :thumbsup

I'm a twelve stepper!!! :D
The rest of you are LAZY!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Stephanas (Post 282591)

My friend, you must not stop at three - It took seven for Naaman.

Cool. I always wanted salvation to be as hard as possible.

Three, seven, or twelve steps?? I remember a thread we had that exposed them for what they are... Line Dancers! ;)

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 282776)

Three, seven, or twelve steps?? I remember a thread we had that exposed them for what they are... Line Dancers! ;)

Salvation has many, many steps. You can never know when you are saved and you can never say "I am saved" because that is bragging and proud.

I sure wish I had full posting rights like ILG and that my posts showed up without moderator approval. You'd think they would at least tell me why I am on this island.

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 282759)

I'm a twelve stepper!!! :D
The rest of you are LAZY!!!!!!!

You beat me to it man. LOL

But thank God I'm cured from 12 stepping.

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Originally Posted by Emma Bontrager (Post 282791)

Right. Many steps. SWING!

Well in Texas we're famous for the two step.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 282817)

Right. Many steps. SWING!

I am not sure what swinging has to do with it. From what I hear, swinging is a sin.

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 282619)

7 steps of savation. Very good reading and studying. By the way, where is Wing, Alabama? I live in the NE corner of the GREAT State of Alabama.

Near Gadsden? Centre?

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 282741)

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Everyone will be relieved to know that admin has finally come forward and bascially admitted that something is wrong with my account. I know that you have all been greatly concerned. It has been horrible having to have every post of mine approved and having my avatar disappear. It is true. I am being persecuted friends. Someone really does not want a picture of a covering woman on here. Of course, it may also be a sign from God.

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 282745)

Do you believe that a life of holiness is essential to salvation?

If so, how is that not a fourth step?

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 282776)

Three, seven, or twelve steps?? I remember a thread we had that exposed them for what they are... Line Dancers! ;)

Line dancers?

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Originally Posted by Emma Bontrager (Post 282791)

My dear sweet Sister Emma,

It's not the moderators who are blocking your many posts, but the simple laws of nature. In order for your keystrokes to be translated into a message on the computer screens of others, and on your computer screen for that matter, you must have invited the devil of electricity into your home first.

Frankly I rejoice whenever I see one of your posts because it is a testament that miracles can still happen!