*** [Exclusive] Resolution 3: The Bloodbath and Inquisition begins ****
 

As predicted by many ... the recently passed Resolution 3 is beginning to be used as a device for disfellowship and divisiveness.

Based on the report of an active church member in church ministry ....

Just today, the District Superintendent of Mississippi has invoked Resolution three to ensure that a UPCI evangelist canceled a prior commitment he had w/ this church.

This week this church was supposed to have a healing and deliverance crusade with a UPC evangelist from Virginia. Today, less than 24 hrs before it was to start the District Supt. called to inform the pastor, who has recently gone independent, that the evangelist would not be able to preach at this newly independent church. He invoked resolution 3 in this matter and said if the evangelist came to this church he would lose his license. The church is now left holding the the proverbial bag ... a crusade sans an evangelist.

Has anyone heard of other recent cases in which Resolution 3 has been used in a similar fashion, yet?

I am not sure this District Supt. had the backing of the entire district board to make this decision. A reading of the resolution says he must have the blessing of the district board. This resolution was supposed to stop rogue DS's from making unilateral decisions for disfellowship, as was the practice for many years. Nor do I know if this newly departed pastor has been officially placed on a blacklist.

Do you think Res. 3 will be tested w/ the formation of the new UC org that will begin in January?


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Lastly, if you are not sure what Res. 3 states, it reads:

Whereas there has not been a clear definition of the terms "under question" and "conduct unbecoming a minister," and

Whereas there seems to be a difference in these terms,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that article VII, Section 7, Paragraph 21 is changed to read as follows:


(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry.

Got names?

Names are being protected ... however I think this is the beginning of a possible bloodbath ... of disfellowshipping ... especially when the new UC org begins .... and as more cons and libs start dropping out.

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16-19

How many of the above verses could be applied to the attitude and actions of those who judge, malign, shun and disfellowship fellow members of the Body of Christ and who tell ministers where they may or may not minister?

I'm always amazed how you get your info so quick. Leave it to the Borat District to get the party started.

And to think people think Res 4 was the bad resolution to be passed. This is a control freaks dream resolution

Well put! :scoregood

Without ALL of the info, all I see is that a DS did what was well within his authority to do. We have no info one way or the other about the newly independent minister.


To be honest, I thought this had been the case for years. In order for a preacher to go into another area and preach for a church that is non- UPC, he must first get the approval of the local UPC pastor and the DS. At least that is what I thought was the case.

Is the DS required to notify the church/preacher they are "in questioned" status?

I agree that this type of action is not new ... but as reported ... it appears that the DS was invigorated to take action .... by using newly passed Resolution 3 as his crutch when explaining his decision to the pastor.

[QUOTE=Sam;282683]16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16-19

How many of the above verses could be applied to the attitude and actions of those who judge, malign, shun and disfellowship fellow members of the Body of Christ and who tell ministers where they may or may not minister?

Exactly, Sam. .......God must be so upset with people now. As the world looks on, the church bickers and divides.

I don't think so ... especially if said pastor/minister is no longer affiliated .... however .... is a list being compiled .... by the district board .... as to who is "unfellowshipable"?? What criteria was used to place this pastor under question? One would imagine the newly defined parameters in Res. 3 were used.

Who is the superintendent? His name has slipped my mind...seems they recently changed...JC was during the Borat scene.

Sure it was JC and not GRT? Time gets away from me sometimes. You are right about the change. JC is out and JS is in.

The DS ... could have simply said no ... and told the pastor that was his decision ... but again it appears he felt justified by Res. 3 and reportedly used it in explaining his decision to the pastor.

Also, common courtesy dictates that this is not done a day before the crusade.

As Praxeas ... said this is a control freak's dream resolution ... especially by defining under question so broadly.

Further fragmentation will occur in the future.

Very few men want this type of control exerted.

Actually Daniel, If I was the UPC pastor in that area, I would not be real happy that a UPC man is coming to anther NON UPC church in my city, and in many ways working against my local assembly.

So my question first would be WHY is the EVANGELIST not going to the local UPC church instead??

GRT's been out for a while

Working against you? Are you for real? Why is it the big wigs can preach where they want? Are you suggesting that evangelists must be locked in to the fellowship only?

We're talking about Apostolic brethren!!!

Maybe the evangelist wasn't asked to preach at the local UPC church.

Maybe the evangelist is a good friend of the pastor from the independent OP church.

What does it matter? Both set of saints from both churches are part of the body of Christ. Why can't they worship and enjoy the work of God through this evangelist together? :roseglasses

From what I gather, the local assembly does not care for the evangelist. The evangelist is seen a prophet by some and that tends to scare folks especially considering the recent history of the local assembly.

The ? is.... Is the DA "under question"?

Because the kingdom franchise mentality has taken root in the minds of some. Some want to have it their way.

Don't know ... I'm sure many will be blacklisted soon.

JC followed him I believe but he was only there for one year I'm pretty sure. It's a shame too, I really liked JC.

Again ... just common courtesy to give this pastor some time to make contingency plans ... ONE DAY BEFORE THE CRUSADE???

Matthew, it doesn't work that way.

The other church would probably never have that evangelist because they may not have the same relationship with him as the independent did.

me too

I did not say working against ME, I said IN MANY WAYS working against the LOCAL UPC ASSEMBLY.


I honestly don't care one way or the other. To me, if the Kingdom is built, go for it! But put yourself in the position of that local home missions church pastor that is struggling to grow his church, and along comes a man IN HIS ORG, and goes across town to hold a crusade for a NON UPC church.

My first impression is that the evangelist must be too big to go help the home missions church, cause they will not be able to give him a BIG OFFERING.

Of course all this is supposition because you have not really presented ALL the pertinent info for us to come to a really logical and balance conclusion on the matter.

Amen To That
 

Amen to that!!! To invoke a "command", as all this is simply giving the DS's of the world of UPC, is not right to the local assembly! I agree with DeltaSound, Praxeas and Pastor Poster on their comments!!! Pitiful, pitiful, pitiful!!! It is nothing but Phariseeism!!!

Oh boy .... affirmative action, revenue sharing and equal distribution of wealth are now plaguing the church ....

Who owns the church?

I thought this was God's kingdom.

Not ours.

I think this is a very sad statement. If a UPC guy came to preach for us, we would not be "working against" the local UPC churches. Why can't we all work together anyway?

P.S. No UPC guy has preached for us in a very LONG time. Even before Res. 3, it was not allowed. However, we have preached in some UPC churches recently.

It scares me to think about how much of that I'M guilty of just being me! Ok, maybe I haven't shed any innocent blood -yet, but the rest has occasionally wormed its way in........

To quote John Maxwell.........
"The issue is never the issue; the issue is always CONTROL."

Bro, I hope you know I can be just as anti UPC as the next man :D, I think for the most part Orgs are just walls of disunity and separation to the body of Christ.

But to me if a man is in an org, he should have some kind of loyalty while in it. And that should include not stepping on a UPC pastor in the same city in order to go to a Non UPC church. It just don't sit right with me. The same courtesy should be shown to the local UPC assembly of having a revival to help them first prior to going across the city to another that is not UPC.

I could be wrong, but it just doesn't sit right with me.

Exactly.

Some men will never have enough of it.

Those negatively impacted by that spirit of oppression will quietly leave.

the behavior this thread is speaking is exactly why res 3 should have never been passed, good grief, the people that wanted this will be the first ones to abuse it, dt:hypercoffee