Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285120)

This is not about bashing...please don't to there...this is just what my church was like and my Pastor wanted it....we didn't think it was necessary so we left! I love them, and I hope nothing but the best for them, I just think fear rules them and to me that is soooooo sad!

Rules...
1. No talking on the phone for more than 10 minutes
2. No friends outside of church, not even family (it was discouraged strongly)
3. No more than three families at a time in your home and not too often, if you had a gathering you are suppose to ask everyone in the church so no one gets offended.
4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there
5. You must attend all fellowships
6. So lunch dates, or shopping with friends even the ones in church...
7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
8. You were not allowed to move, unless you had his OK.

Being we are older we did not attend parenting classes or marriage classes so we missed out on a lot of the rules...but over time we learned. This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....

So there ya go Thad....

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285120)

This is not about bashing...please don't to there...this is just what my church was like and my Pastor wanted it....we didn't think it was necessary so we left! I love them, and I hope nothing but the best for them, I just think fear rules them and to me that is soooooo sad!

Rules...
1. No talking on the phone for more than 10 minutes TO WHOM?? ANYBODY??
2. No friends outside of church, not even family (it was discouraged strongly) WHY?? DIDN"T JESUS EAT WITH SINNERS?? HOW DID YOU WIN THE LOST ??
3. No more than three families at a time in your home and not too often, if you had a gathering you are suppose to ask everyone in the church so no one gets offended. WHY!! THAT IS NUTS!
4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there WHY??????
5. You must attend all fellowships AND IF YOU DIDN'T /.?????
6. So lunch dates, or shopping with friends even the ones in church...PLEASE CLARIFY
7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
8. You were not allowed to move, unless you had his OK.
THAT IS CULT ACTIVITY !!!

Being we are older we did not attend parenting classes or marriage classes so we missed out on a lot of the rules...but over time we learned. This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....

So there ya go Thad....

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 285133)

there you go TS!! Qs in RED

Originally Posted by LaGirl (Post 285137)

Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow

Originally Posted by chseeads (Post 285173)

That kind of stuff is just plain nuttier than squirrel poop.

Totally uncalled for. Not at all what a pastor or church is supposed to be about.

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285120)

This is not about bashing...please don't to there...this is just what my church was like and my Pastor wanted it....we didn't think it was necessary so we left! I love them, and I hope nothing but the best for them, I just think fear rules them and to me that is soooooo sad!

Rules...
1. No talking on the phone for more than 10 minutes
2. No friends outside of church, not even family (it was discouraged strongly)
3. No more than three families at a time in your home and not too often, if you had a gathering you are suppose to ask everyone in the church so no one gets offended.
4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there
5. You must attend all fellowships
6. So lunch dates, or shopping with friends even the ones in church...
7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
8. You were not allowed to move, unless you had his OK.

Being we are older we did not attend parenting classes or marriage classes so we missed out on a lot of the rules...but over time we learned. This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....

So there ya go Thad....

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285166)

1. Pretty much…if you were talking more than 10 minutes your just gossiping! Funny though I had several very long conversations with my Pastor!
2. I don’t know how you win the lost if you don’t fellowship with them, you need to make a friend before they will want to hear your testimony…
3. Yes it is…but thems the rules, and that is why the church does not grow. It has a revolving door too many rules
4. NO home bible studies….I wanted to start a ladies bible study group, was told NO because we need to be there e to be sure you don’t get off track!
5. You were talked to if you did not attend all fellowships…scolded!
6. No daytime activities with friends….idle time…fun time
7. Nothing more here
8. I agree brother that is why we left….it was oppressive….

Originally Posted by LaGirl (Post 285176)

sounds to me like the pastor has WAY TOO MUCH time on his hands...making up all of those silly rules!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 285180)

And a partridge in a pear tree!

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285184)

They ruled out of fear...in my opinion....I don't think they have faith, in the HG!

Originally Posted by LaGirl (Post 285176)

sounds to me like the pastor has WAY TOO MUCH time on his hands...making up all of those silly rules!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 285182)

when did you leave? how long did you stay there?

did this pastor start the church or was he someone who was elected to a church you already attended?

Originally Posted by LaGirl (Post 285190)

move to the GOOD OLE SOUTH.....we can do what we want! lol :hypercoffee:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 285193)

now I do not know how true this is but i was told that there was a church years ago that taught that WHITE was the color of purity. So, everything that had to do with a personal nature had to be WHITE.
white Panties, White socks, white tissue, white toilet paper, white bras and under garments.

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 285181)

I just don't understand it really. WHY would a pastor want to overload himself with monitoring all this?? isn't pastoring stressful enough?
what does he really care?? I mean, is he really THAT concerned for the peoples' souls ??

I recall now ...someone said you had to consult the pastor if you and your husband was going to have another child ????????


also, Did you let of ALL rules and standards? if so, was it a result of these silly rules ?

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285120)

This is not about bashing...please don't to there...this is just what my church was like and my Pastor wanted it....we didn't think it was necessary so we left! I love them, and I hope nothing but the best for them, I just think fear rules them and to me that is soooooo sad!

Rules...
1. No talking on the phone for more than 10 minutes
2. No friends outside of church, not even family (it was discouraged strongly)
3. No more than three families at a time in your home and not too often, if you had a gathering you are suppose to ask everyone in the church so no one gets offended.
4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there
5. You must attend all fellowships
6. So lunch dates, or shopping with friends even the ones in church...
7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
8. You were not allowed to move, unless you had his OK.

Being we are older we did not attend parenting classes or marriage classes so we missed out on a lot of the rules...but over time we learned. This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....

So there ya go Thad....

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 285181)

I just don't understand it really. WHY would a pastor want to overload himself with monitoring all this?? isn't pastoring stressful enough?
what does he really care?? I mean, is he really THAT concerned for the peoples' souls ??

I recall now ...someone said you had to consult the pastor if you and your husband was going to have another child ????????


also, Did you let of ALL rules and standards? if so, was it a result of these silly rules ?

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 285210)

When I hear of extreme cases like this it legitimately makes me wonder if there are or were, health problems of the brain kind with this pastor. Various tumors can cause this kind of extreme paranoia that this man was obviously dealing with.

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 285212)

Do I Know you Sis TS...did we usta go to the same church?

Everyone of these where I was at for twenty years. We escaped in 1991

I might add

1. No birthday parties for kids
2. No tuperware (or any other) kind of party
3. No church friends to your house (except relatives)
4. Rule 4 did'nt apply to many..in that envirement , soon everyone is related (look at where inbreeding has gotten us)
5. Permission to go on vacation and you could'nt miss 2 sunjdays if you were on a one week trip.
6. No fishin on Sundays if you were on a fishing vacation.
There's more..lots more

Originally Posted by chseeads (Post 285215)

Any church run under these kind of premises does not produce spiritually mature saints. It produces helpless, dependent cripples that can't stand on their own. Bible study should be encouraged, not banned. But that's a power play that places authority in what the pastor preaches and not what you study out for yourself. It becomes a church full of people that have no answers for their faith except "That's what pastor says..."

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285255)

OH yes....we could have birthday parties but you had to invite every kid in the church....
No tuperware or any other kind like that unless it was the pastors wife...
Yes few and far inbetween friends over
Yes we had to have premission to be gone
We were not allowed to miss church unless we had two broken legs...said in jest, but meant all the same
Hummm fishing I don't know about...


of course these rules DID NOT apply to the pastors family!!!!

Originally Posted by tamor (Post 285232)

Wow.

Originally Posted by determined (Post 285261)

... This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....
QUOTE]

I think it is MORE than enough. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 285271)

Those rules are a piece of cake!!!! Come on.......toughen up!!!! :boxing

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285255)

OH yes....we could have birthday parties but you had to invite every kid in the church....
No tuperware or any other kind like that unless it was the pastors wife...
Yes few and far inbetween friends over
Yes we had to have premission to be gone
We were not allowed to miss church unless we had two broken legs...said in jest, but meant all the same
Hummm fishing I don't know about...


of course these rules DID NOT apply to the pastors family!!!!

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285120)

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4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there

7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
....

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker (Post 285274)

YOu can say that....look at your face!!!!!:donuts

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 285265)

Just for the gruesome fun to be had at all, do you have any idea what his pre-marital sessions were like? I would love to hear some of his "advice". May belong in a "Worst Marriage Advice EVER" thread. LOL

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 285277)

My goodness, we did go to the same church!!

The pasotr's son in law could not believe when he went on the first family vacation that some of the stuff preached against was done by the pastors family.

The excuse was we are strong enought to do this but the saints aren't.